I really value our Churches and Cathedrals and I believe that everyone should have free access to them. How can it best serve the community and at the same time draw revenue for conservation.
This not about religion and is strictly about it's use.
Churches already have shops selling their wares and our Cathedral is charging sightseers an entrance fee so the jury is already out on that one.
RainComeShine: I really value our Churches and Cathedrals and I believe that everyone should have free access to them. How can it best serve the community and at the same time draw revenue for conservation.
This not about religion and is strictly about it's use.
Churches already have shops selling their wares and our Cathedral is charging sightseers an entrance fee so the jury is already out on that one.
They should be free to all. The Cathedrals of Europe are awe-inspiring to behold and magnificent to think that it took generations of labour to build them. They're a triumph of the Human spirit regardless of your own beliefs and it's nice to see something that stands the test of time in the plastic age of today where we make our own homes out of lego bricks.
Obstinance_Works: They should be free to all. The Cathedrals of Europe are awe-inspiring to behold and magnificent to think that it took generations of labour to build them. They're a triumph of the Human spirit regardless of your own beliefs and it's nice to see something that stands the test of time in the plastic age of today where we make our own homes out of lego bricks.
My Ex husband refused to go in a church because many people died during construction. I seem to have the opposite view that there's all the more reason to preserve them and the amazing skills and courage of the past.
RainComeShine: My Ex husband refused to go in a church because many people died during construction. I seem to have the opposite view that there's all the more reason to preserve them and the amazing skills and courage of the past.
I think we often mis understand one another. I am a bit clumsy with my words. Yes it's always nice when someone gets your point of view but interesting to hear others too.
RainComeShine: I think we often mis understand one another. I am a bit clumsy with my words. Yes it's always nice when someone gets your point of view but interesting to hear others too.
I was brusque with you unnecessarily and you didn't deserve that.
Which Cathedral is it they're charging to let you in? I always make a donation anyway, but I'm disappointed it's not subsidised so that anyone can go as much as they want without having to pay. It doesn't seem very Christian to charge a fee and it's sad if that's the only the option the Christians have left.
Obstinance_Works: I was brusque with you unnecessarily and you didn't deserve that.
Which Cathedral is it they're charging to let you in? I always make a donation anyway, but I'm disappointed it's not subsidised so that anyone can go as much as they want without having to pay. It doesn't seem very Christian to charge a fee and it's sad if that's the only the option the Christians have left.
that's fine! It's Exeter. The charge was £7 for visitors to the city but I was recently told they'd been trying a charge of £10. It is definitely worth a visit. More later. i have visitors on their way.
RainComeShine: I really value our Churches and Cathedrals and I believe that everyone should have free access to them. How can it best serve the community and at the same time draw revenue for conservation.
This not about religion and is strictly about it's use.
Churches already have shops selling their wares and our Cathedral is charging sightseers an entrance fee so the jury is already out on that one.
I did giggle a lot in Sunday School because it was so quiet and you were not supposed to.
RainComeShine: that's fine! It's Exeter. The charge was £7 for visitors to the city but I was recently told they'd been trying a charge of £10. It is definitely worth a visit. More later. i have visitors on their way.
Now that I recall I think York was charging on entry, too. The last two I visited were both in France and they didn't charge. But that's the good old French; they'd riot if they raised the price of cheese.
I think their use should be a decision of the parish. most are open but in cities here some are locked when services are not held because of past thefts & other crimes.
The parish supports the facility financially so it should be their decisions as to the uses, but most parishes like to rent the peripheral facilities as income. But still, they are private facilities so it is up to the parish as it should be.
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
RainComeShine: I really value our Churches and Cathedrals and I believe that everyone should have free access to them. How can it best serve the community and at the same time draw revenue for conservation.
This not about religion and is strictly about it's use.
Churches already have shops selling their wares and our Cathedral is charging sightseers an entrance fee so the jury is already out on that one.
-Churches must pay taxes on their “income” from visitors and from charity (visiting churches in Europe is very expensive!)
Also we do have some camera concerts at the Cathedral and other churches but they are free and they are just astonishing.
Rather than to invade the great Church buildings, we should consider making an adjustment to politicians’ salaries and to the governments way of spending their budget, after that we talk about touching historical buildings.
lifeisadream: -Churches must pay taxes on their “income” from visitors and from charity (visiting churches in Europe is very expensive!)
Also we do have some camera concerts at the Cathedral and other churches but they are free and they are just astonishing.
Rather than to invade the great Church buildings, we should consider making an adjustment to politicians’ salaries and to the governments way of spending their budget, after that we talk about touching historical buildings.
Yes and I imagine they pay taxes here too. I was buying gifts for my grandchildren's Christening and I was very shocked and offended by some of the heartless and egotistical merchandise that was being sold in the name of God. I also heard two members of staff being very rude about another member of staff. I just didn't expect any of that in a church.
I really don't like that side of what Churches are doing. I just wish there were more useful ways for them to accumulate money that also benefit their parish. I really like the whole community participation you talk of.
pedalguy59: I did giggle a lot in Sunday School because it was so quiet and you were not supposed to.
Oh dear I think we all did that. I only went because they had paper and paints. I was so young that it all went over my head and I think I asked too many questions.
felixis99: I think their use should be a decision of the parish. most are open but in cities here some are locked when services are not held because of past thefts & other crimes.
The parish supports the facility financially so it should be their decisions as to the uses, but most parishes like to rent the peripheral facilities as income. But still, they are private facilities so it is up to the parish as it should be.
Just so long as it doesn't become a big them and us thing because I think it will just crumble eventually.
Obstinance_Works: Now that I recall I think York was charging on entry, too. The last two I visited were both in France and they didn't charge. But that's the good old French; they'd riot if they raised the price of cheese.
I remember visiting the home town of Jeanne d'Arch and we could scrabble through the buildings free of charge. They were ruins.
RainComeShine: Just so long as it doesn't become a big them and us thing because I think it will just crumble eventually.
I am not sure I know what you mean. I am just stating how it is in the US. Churches do not pay tax here. They are privately held with their use determined by the parish....I also happen to agree (decisions should go to those financially vested)....but that is also just a matter of fact here.
felixis99: I am not sure I know what you mean. I am just stating how it is in the US. Churches do not pay tax here. They are privately held with their use determined by the parish....I also happen to agree (decisions should go to those financially vested)....but that is also just a matter of fact here.
They also cannot violate civil law here.
I think our churches are mostly owned by the Church of England and actually the Queen. They have been selling them off for years now and I think things are a little more relaxed here with regards to usage but it would have to be passed by the hierarchy.
Condor009Victoria, British Columbia Canada200 Posts
Condor009Victoria, British Columbia Canada200 posts
RainComeShine: I really value our Churches and Cathedrals and I believe that everyone should have free access to them. How can it best serve the community and at the same time draw revenue for conservation.
This not about religion and is strictly about it's use.
Churches already have shops selling their wares and our Cathedral is charging sightseers an entrance fee so the jury is already out on that one.
Some people have purchased them and converted them into homes. Some are just fantastic. When I lived in Canada I found several for sale, but sadly they were all in the prairies and all , and moving any would be more than they would be worth. I’m now finally getting an old, long abandoned church from the archdiocese near where I live to either renovate or move to my place for almost nothing. Always wanted to live in an old church.
Condor009: Some people have purchased them and converted them into homes. Some are just fantastic. When I lived in Canada I found several for sale, but sadly they were all in the prairies and all , and moving any would be more than they would be worth. I’m now finally getting an old, long abandoned church from the archdiocese near where I live to either renovate or move to my place for almost nothing. Always wanted to live in an old church.
That's fantastic. I have always wanted to as well. It would be nice to see how it progresses.
RainComeShine: I love some of the redundant Monasteries and Convents that have been converted into living accommodation too; such tranquil settings too.
In Spain , they have converted old monasteries, etc., into high class hotels (paradores). Some are spectacular.
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This not about religion and is strictly about it's use.
Churches already have shops selling their wares and our Cathedral is charging sightseers an entrance fee so the jury is already out on that one.