Comparison shoots

So I decided to compare old military rifles from the same time frame to see which one was best. First I compared a Remington Rolling Block carbine from the 1870s to a Sharps .50 carbine from the same time frame.



My conclusion was the Sharps was a superior rifle. This is because A) Remington Rolling Block must be cocked to be loaded which creates a potentially unsafe condition (which historically did cause a few unintentional discharges around the world). B) The ejection of the fired case from the Sharps is very snappy and postitive. The ejection from the Remington is best described as sluggish, and as shown in the video, occasionally problematic.

I next did a comparison of an 1855 Trapdoor Springfield in .50-70 to an English .577 Snider Action. Sadly the video of the Snider didn't survive, but here is the Trapdoor Springfield version of the test.



I found reloading the American Trapdoor to be a little bit faster than was reloading the English Snider rifle. This is because the Trapdoor ejects the fired case automatically as soon as the breech is opened. However in the Snider action one first opens the breech, then manually slides the breech backwards to eject the fired case (with the speed of ejection being proportionate to the force exerted), then manually slides the breech back forwards. This adds a quarter second to the reload time for the Snider action. Otherwise they were about equal. Both are heavy full size rifles that you would not enjoy carrying on a march. Both have bayonets. Both are contermporary Infantry rifles

In a few days I will receive an English Martini Henry of 1871 manufacture (caliber .577-450 of course) carbine. It is a falling block action like the Sharps .50-70 carbine. I look forward to finding out which of the two designs was superior from a user perspective. Best to know which rifle to seek out should you suddenly find yourself stuck in the 19th century. :)
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COOL, ken! cheers

Can't say I've had a lot of experience with arms from that era, but I'd be kinda partial to the ol' .50-90 Sharps.
The classic buffler gun of its day.

From what I've heard, modern versions of the same gun/caliber will take care of bidness in Western elk country.

cowboy
Some folks talk about the .50-140 Sharps. wow
Those were likely after market conversions, as historian types claim no Sharps rifle ever left the factory so chambered.
dunno

cowboy
The Carbine Sharps was the first of course. The Army had Sharps take 30,000 of the percussion carbines the Army had on hand from the Civil War and re-do them to use .50-70 cartridges for the cavalry. Consequently it wasn't until 1871 that the Army came out with a trapdoor carbine. By then of course the Indian War with the Cheyennes and Sioux and Arapahoe was well underway. General Sheridan had begun his campaign to exterminate the Bison and the Sharps 50 and and the Trapdoor .50 were the first guns used. Later when the .45-70 came out in 1873 the older .50s were simply issued or sold at huge discount to registered buffalo hunters. Although Buffalo Bill preferred the Trapdoor .50-70, many other buffalo hunters preferred the greater reloading speed of the Sharps. Both guns, used the same cartridge and either one could put a buffalo down quickly. The hunters were paid based on how many they killed, so rapid fire was preferred. Queries to Sharps resulted in that company making a longer barreled version in the mid 1870s and that was the Old Reliable in .50-90. That, like the Springfield .50 could take buffalo at 600 yards or even further. News of how easy Buffalo hunting for a living was spread quickly and soon Sharps was deluged with orders for rifle versions with better and better sights. Sadly for Sharps the extermination campaign was very successful and by 1884 the last buffalo herd was gone. Sharps then introduced the .50-110 and their .45-90 and .45-110 but there was nothing left to hunt with it and bankruptcy soon resulted for the Sharps company. Although Sharps Co. was now gone the .Sharps rifles proved to be exceptionally accurate and a favorite at the Creedmore matches at the close of the 19th century and performed well against the Ballards and Winchester High Walls.
Excellent rifles you got therethumbs up
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Right you are, Ken! cheers

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How Far Will A Sharps Rifle Shoot? Mike Venturino

wow
The radar documented results are astounding.
I suspect even ol' Buffalo Bill himself would've been surprised.
He might've concluded his ladder sight wasn't really all that necessary!
It still looked cool, though. love

I knew the .50-90 (aka Big Fifty) was impressive.
But...DAYUM!!

cowboy
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