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Feb 27, 2009 3:24 PM CST What we Really Want
petalbabe
petalbabepetalbabeOgdensburg, New York, Cork Ireland61 Threads 1 Polls 3,101 Posts
I read alot of the posts that go on on this site, particularly regararding what men and women want from each other.

The main things that seems to put barriers in the way of taking this further are:-

1. Insecurity in oneself;
2. Hurt relating to previous experiences, and prejudice therein;
3. Worries about financial abilities to please the other person;
4. Fears of being hurt again and the automatic implementation of emotional armour to stop someone getting to close.

What is the answer to these impediments? The answer to all is the same. TRUST.

In yourself, to be able to provide, and then trust in the potential partner.

Trust is the hardest thing to regain. But it is surely most important thing to obtain in order to enjoy an loving, longterm relationship. Which, I think, most of us on here would like.

Food for thought.
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Feb 27, 2009 3:31 PM CST What we Really Want
dillydally
dillydallydillydallyBehind the hills and Burns ..., Strathclyde, Scotland UK57 Threads 2,697 Posts
You cannot (in my view) have love without trust - either love for yourself or for another .Confidence plays a big part as well .


No confidence = no trust in self so wont/cant trust others .

No trust = No love . Simple to me .
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Feb 27, 2009 3:38 PM CST What we Really Want
takeit4granted
takeit4grantedtakeit4grantednew berlin, Wisconsin USA4 Threads 785 Posts
petalbabe: I read alot of the posts that go on on this site, particularly regararding what men and women want from each other.

The main things that seems to put barriers in the way of taking this further are:-

1. Insecurity in oneself;
2. Hurt relating to previous experiences, and prejudice therein;
3. Worries about financial abilities to please the other person;
4. Fears of being hurt again and the automatic implementation of emotional armour to stop someone getting to close.

What is the answer to these impediments? The answer to all is the same. TRUST.

In yourself, to be able to provide, and then trust in the potential partner.

Trust is the hardest thing to regain. But it is surely most important thing to obtain in order to enjoy an loving, longterm relationship. Which, I think, most of us on here would like.

Food for thought.


bon appetite smitten

bouquet
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Feb 27, 2009 3:59 PM CST What we Really Want
petalbabe
petalbabepetalbabeOgdensburg, New York, Cork Ireland61 Threads 1 Polls 3,101 Posts
In my opinion, people are afraid to answer this question.

Because it involves admitting a weakenss in their eyes;

Untrust
Insecurity
Unworthiness


All tbese things are in the mind. But second, third and forth relationships will never become sucessful unless we get over them.
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Feb 27, 2009 4:03 PM CST What we Really Want
takeit4granted
takeit4grantedtakeit4grantednew berlin, Wisconsin USA4 Threads 785 Posts
imagine life with out that pain,,growing,,gaining passion,,compassion. Those pains, are not in vainbouquet

( or shouldnt be )
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Feb 27, 2009 4:40 PM CST What we Really Want
canairforcetech
canairforcetechcanairforcetechTrenton, Ontario Canada4 Threads 130 Posts
I find that often, people say they want one thing (on their profile) ie long term...but seem to act differently. Perhaps it's a trust issue? Perhaps it's something completely different. dunno
I can only speak for myself and say that without a doubt that I'm looking for EXACTLY what it states on my profile. That doesn't mean that I trust everybody on this site...too many scammers and such. They usually give themselves away pretty quickly though. I've been burned by trusting people before, but not all people are like that and I'll give people the benefit of the doubt.

I know that if I'm going to find what I'm searching for, I have to be open and trusting, but that trust comes with time...especially on the net. The forums can be a big help in that regard. You have a chance to get the "flavor" of people, as it were.

Just my opinion...

cheers

Rob
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Feb 27, 2009 4:51 PM CST What we Really Want
arabella
arabellaarabellaNear Farmington, Maine USA98 Threads 1 Polls 6,199 Posts
canairforcetech: I find that often, people say they want one thing (on their profile) ie long term...but seem to act differently. Perhaps it's a trust issue? Perhaps it's something completely different.
I can only speak for myself and say that without a doubt that I'm looking for EXACTLY what it states on my profile. That doesn't mean that I trust everybody on this site...too many scammers and such. They usually give themselves away pretty quickly though. I've been burned by trusting people before, but not all people are like that and I'll give people the benefit of the doubt.

I know that if I'm going to find what I'm searching for, I have to be open and trusting, but that trust comes with time...especially on the net. The forums can be a big help in that regard. You have a chance to get the "flavor" of people, as it were.

Just my opinion...



Rob


Good for you, Rob!

I read your profile and you were clear in the kind of woman you are looking for to share your life.

Good Job!
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Feb 27, 2009 4:56 PM CST What we Really Want
buzzy
buzzybuzzybiddeford, Maine USA24 Threads 1,492 Posts
petalbabe: I read alot of the posts that go on on this site, particularly regararding what men and women want from each other.

The main things that seems to put barriers in the way of taking this further are:-

1. Insecurity in oneself;
2. Hurt relating to previous experiences, and prejudice therein;
3. Worries about financial abilities to please the other person;
4. Fears of being hurt again and the automatic implementation of emotional armour to stop someone getting to close.

What is the answer to these impediments? The answer to all is the same. TRUST.

In yourself, to be able to provide, and then trust in the potential partner.

Trust is the hardest thing to regain. But it is surely most important thing to obtain in order to enjoy an loving, longterm relationship. Which, I think, most of us on here would like.

Food for thought.



These are but preceptions of the mind. If you want to get beyond these blocks, then you need to change the way you think.
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Feb 27, 2009 4:56 PM CST What we Really Want
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Boy, what a good thread, Petal! And yes, so true. I see many on here who have been hurt in previous relationship but have not gotten over their bitterness, and bring it into forums in the form of "why can't women....?", "why can't men.....?", "why do all men/women....?"

Heal thyself first. Take the time to get over your pain and bitterness, for if you can't do that, you can never have a good, healthy relationship. Learn to love yourself for who you are, for only then can another love you for who you are...how can anyone else love someone who doesn't love themselves?

And trust. Oh yes...without trust, you have nothing. If you can't ever fully trust another person, especially one of the opposite gender, then you will never have a real relationship with one again. If you can't trust completely like that, you have not completed step one...heal first.

I carry a very small overnight bag from my past experiences, and I've been through a lot of horrible things. I have healed. I have learned to love and accept myself, even the worst of myself, and to change the things that I don't like, but to still accept myself for them, and love myself anyway. I have memories of the things done and said to me in the past, but they no longer have the power to hurt me. They are past...done and gone. Healed. The memories are in that overnight bag, and I have it set down and aside, out of the way, for I know that the man I love now is not those men. He is him. I love him for who he is, and I trust him completely. The past made us each who we are now, but does not color our present and future.

This is the place everyone should strive to reach, for it is not until you do that you can have a good, healthy relationship with another.

wine
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Feb 27, 2009 5:03 PM CST What we Really Want
buzzy
buzzybuzzybiddeford, Maine USA24 Threads 1,492 Posts
Trust requires a huge step on an unknown branch. It may break, it may hold. But there is only one way to find out. Take the step.
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Feb 27, 2009 5:05 PM CST What we Really Want
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
buzzy: Trust requires a huge step on an unknown branch. It may break, it may hold. But there is only one way to find out. Take the step.
thumbs up True.
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Feb 27, 2009 5:06 PM CST What we Really Want
buzzy
buzzybuzzybiddeford, Maine USA24 Threads 1,492 Posts
Love requires a strong heart.
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Feb 27, 2009 5:07 PM CST What we Really Want
canairforcetech
canairforcetechcanairforcetechTrenton, Ontario Canada4 Threads 130 Posts
druidess6308: Boy, what a good thread, Petal! And yes, so true. I see many on here who have been hurt in previous relationship but have not gotten over their bitterness, and bring it into forums in the form of "why can't women....?", "why can't men.....?", "why do all men/women....?"

Heal thyself first. Take the time to get over your pain and bitterness, for if you can't do that, you can never have a good, healthy relationship. Learn to love yourself for who you are, for only then can another love you for who you are...how can anyone else love someone who doesn't love themselves?

And trust. Oh yes...without trust, you have nothing. If you can't ever fully trust another person, especially one of the opposite gender, then you will never have a real relationship with one again. If you can't trust completely like that, you have not completed step one...heal first.

I carry a very small overnight bag from my past experiences, and I've been through a lot of horrible things. I have healed. I have learned to love and accept myself, even the worst of myself, and to change the things that I don't like, but to still accept myself for them, and love myself anyway. I have memories of the things done and said to me in the past, but they no longer have the power to hurt me. They are past...done and gone. Healed. The memories are in that overnight bag, and I have it set down and aside, out of the way, for I know that the man I love now is not those men. He is him. I love him for who he is, and I trust him completely. The past made us each who we are now, but does not color our present and future.

This is the place everyone should strive to reach, for it is not until you do that you can have a good, healthy relationship with another.


Well said. As long as that "overnight bag" can fit in the overhead compartment, you're good to go.

That is, indeed, the place we SHOULD be trying to reach. I would not change anything in my past, since my past is a big part of what has made me who I am NOW. I don't just love that person, I LIKE him too...despite the flaws and chips...lol
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Feb 27, 2009 5:08 PM CST What we Really Want
canairforcetech
canairforcetechcanairforcetechTrenton, Ontario Canada4 Threads 130 Posts
buzzy: Trust requires a huge step on an unknown branch. It may break, it may hold. But there is only one way to find out. Take the step.


Exactly

cheers
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Feb 27, 2009 5:36 PM CST What we Really Want
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
canairforcetech: Well said. As long as that "overnight bag" can fit in the overhead compartment, you're good to go.

That is, indeed, the place we SHOULD be trying to reach. I would not change anything in my past, since my past is a big part of what has made me who I am NOW. I don't just love that person, I LIKE him too...despite the flaws and chips...lol


Absolutely, that overnight bag fits in an overhead compartment. People shouldn't take baggage any larger than that into a relationship. And yes, you should like yourself as well as love yourself. Like is an important part of love often overlooked. You have to like you, and you have to like the other people, too. wine
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Feb 27, 2009 5:39 PM CST What we Really Want
canairforcetech
canairforcetechcanairforcetechTrenton, Ontario Canada4 Threads 130 Posts
druidess6308: Absolutely, that overnight bag fits in an overhead compartment. People shouldn't take baggage any larger than that into a relationship. And yes, you should like yourself as well as love yourself. Like is an important part of love often overlooked. You have to like you, and you have to like the other people, too.


Yup...you can love someone but if you don't LIKE 'em, it's not going to be a very healthy relationship.
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Feb 27, 2009 6:39 PM CST What we Really Want
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
petalbabe: I read alot of the posts that go on on this site, particularly regararding what men and women want from each other.

The main things that seems to put barriers in the way of taking this further are:-

1. Insecurity in oneself;
2. Hurt relating to previous experiences, and prejudice therein;
3. Worries about financial abilities to please the other person;
4. Fears of being hurt again and the automatic implementation of emotional armour to stop someone getting to close.

What is the answer to these impediments? The answer to all is the same. TRUST.

In yourself, to be able to provide, and then trust in the potential partner.

Trust is the hardest thing to regain. But it is surely most important thing to obtain in order to enjoy an loving, longterm relationship. Which, I think, most of us on here would like.

Food for thought.


It all starts with trusting yourself and being honest with yourselfwine

Everybody has a hungry heart beating Feed it!idea

Thanks for the quality thought petalbabe...
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Feb 27, 2009 7:22 PM CST What we Really Want
RicoWest
RicoWestRicoWestlos angeles, California USA52 Threads 1 Polls 612 Posts
petalbabe: Trust is the hardest thing to regain. But it is surely most important thing to obtain in order to enjoy an loving, longterm relationship. Which, I think, most of us on here would like.


There you have it. I can't bring myself to ever trust anyone again, even if it's in my own best interest.
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