LEGAL SEPARATIONS.... ( Archived) (55)

Jun 21, 2006 9:30 PM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
soulmateTWS
soulmateTWSsoulmateTWSHappy in, Alabama USA8 Threads 4,935 Posts
This will be my 2nd divorce(provided I get this one). The first one took me 3 months to get my ex. to sign divorce papers(that is how long we were married--believe it or not). I did not try for the seperation thing-just the divorce. The night we got married(the first time) he went nuts!!!! Decided it was time to go home and get the hell out--it was over before it really got going!!! Wow--makes me wonder......Surely there is better guys out there.....If not-I'm just going to stay single......mumbling mumbling mumbling
I don't want to go though this again......roll eyes
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Jun 21, 2006 9:35 PM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
soulmateTWS
soulmateTWSsoulmateTWSHappy in, Alabama USA8 Threads 4,935 Posts
Ouch!!! That would be hard to walk away from----Depends on how bad you want your freedom.....I understand where you are coming from--I got almost 10 yrs. in this one--it's hard to come to the decision that it is definitely what you want to do.....Just make sure before either one of you does anything....I wish you the best. Yell at me if you need someone to vent with about it----because I'm there too....Good luck!!!!grin
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Jun 21, 2006 9:40 PM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
RainbowSlider
RainbowSliderRainbowSliderYellville, USA171 Threads 7,174 Posts
Give yourself some time on the forums. Enjoy the friendship that are just awesome. Being alone truly sucks to beat hell. If you get a chance check out the "Welcome To Hell" thread I started, lol. You will get lots of insights or atleast I did from past threads. Yup, you definately need a break. Try to relax if you can. Get to know some of the wonderful people on the forums.
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Jun 22, 2006 6:27 AM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
soulmateTWS
soulmateTWSsoulmateTWSHappy in, Alabama USA8 Threads 4,935 Posts
Thank you--mabe you are right.......handshake
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Jun 22, 2006 6:50 AM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
catwm
catwmcatwmSomewhere in the middle, Florida USA48 Threads 6,683 Posts
I discussed this with my attorney. Maybe it is the state of Florida, but, he said " legal separation " was not recognized.

Although we had been living apart a few years before the divorce actually was filed, and during the process, I was adviced to refrain from dating. I took the lawyers advice and am glad that I did, I was not ready emotionally anyway.




I just wanted to share that, even though it did not help answer you.
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Jun 22, 2006 7:01 AM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
TabooN
TabooNTabooNClaremont, USA47 Threads 12,843 Posts
depends on the laws in your area...

best bet?

go to the courthouse and get all info you can... if you need a lawyer, get one.

anything you do during a seperation can be used against you going into the divorce process... so, make lists of what you expect.

like a divorce, there is a temporary hearing?

make a list of what your ideal situation would be.

and, it is honest...

luck to you.
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Jun 22, 2006 7:08 AM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
soulmateTWS
soulmateTWSsoulmateTWSHappy in, Alabama USA8 Threads 4,935 Posts
Sounds like good advice....banana :bye:
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Jun 22, 2006 1:40 PM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
justabigrose
justabigrosejustabigrosegreen forest, Arkansas USA23 Threads 1,162 Posts
wish you all where around wheni got divorced,i wanted out so bad that they took me for a cleaning,And after our court date he braded that he payed off my lawyer,i lost my home and job to ,,it sucked,please go get help with this ok ,girl you got babys to protect
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Jun 22, 2006 1:54 PM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
arabella
arabellaarabellaNear Farmington, Maine USA98 Threads 1 Polls 6,199 Posts
You can also do some research online about the laws in your state.

Your best move is to talk to a lawyer. Then you can get an idea of the costs you will face and how much a LAWYER will cost upfront.
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Jun 22, 2006 2:10 PM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
TabooN
TabooNTabooNClaremont, USA47 Threads 12,843 Posts
true, joanie...
also, if no lawyer can be afforded? there legal aid where you are? I tried for my court hearings, but legal aid never called, and I heard they wouldn't...so backed up...

So, my advocates, and some folks here gave me input... did it myself.
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Jun 22, 2006 4:07 PM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
soulmateTWS
soulmateTWSsoulmateTWSHappy in, Alabama USA8 Threads 4,935 Posts
My first divorce--I drew up the papers myself--no attorney needed. I had a good friend that had done that and I used a copy of hers-just added my info. We did not have anything together-so it was no big deal. This time--Big deal.... I have been told by a few other women that live in Al. that legal aid is a joke. IF you can get seen by one of their attorney's--they really don't care at all about anyone or anything. I don't know if it is true or not and am kinda scared to take the chance. I don't work outside of our house-so no income of my own that will be coming in steady. I was hoping he and I could come to agree what has already been written down. He is just not wanting to let go.....I mean-if you know the marriage is over--why hang on......????????....dunno dunno confused
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Jun 22, 2006 4:12 PM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
TabooN
TabooNTabooNClaremont, USA47 Threads 12,843 Posts
I just did the process myself with help from womens crisis...

but, ifyou don't need those services, you can still do it yourself.

make lists..write everything down...

if he sill insists on no divorce, and you do...the judge will decide whatto do...

cannot stay married if one just wants out.

it'll probably give yu time for a temporary hearing ( you can tentatively rough draft what you want... he'll be required to do the same...)
states are different. they usually allow a cool down period before the final hearing...
Mine was expidited because of what the kids and I were going hrough. So, I was lucky.

wish you luck...
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Jun 22, 2006 4:32 PM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
soulmateTWS
soulmateTWSsoulmateTWSHappy in, Alabama USA8 Threads 4,935 Posts
Thank you~~~~~~I think I am going to need!!! Guys---I really appreciate all the advice!!!!!!!!!! It's also nice to know that someone else understands and has been there...conversing

THANK YOUcool
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Jun 22, 2006 7:40 PM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
singlemom99
singlemom99singlemom99elkhart, Indiana USA4 Posts
I had to jump in here on this one. yay I went through my divorce after my seperation 4 years ago. Go to the courthouse or library or call the courthouse and ask. Every state has different rules. If i wouldn't have gotten my seperation papers which he didn't have to sign, when i did i would've got stuck paying about 3 grand in bills that he ran up. Plus i put in my seperation papers that i had sole custody of our son and he had visitation rights but no over night stays. If i wouldn't have he could have taken him and ran. I talked to a police officer and he said if it's not in seperation papers then there would've been nothing to stop him. devil Also try the internet and see what you can find out. What state are you in? I can do some checking for you. I am studying to be a paralegal so i do know some of the laws. When i got my seperation i did it completely on my own. It cost me about $110 i think. But I lucked out my ex-husband never fought me on anything. If you have any questions let me know, i might be able to help you. banana
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Jun 22, 2006 8:07 PM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
SusieRR
SusieRRSusieRRnortheast, Ohio USA78 Threads 3 Polls 2,122 Posts
I don't know about Canada, but in some U.S. states, a marriage longer than ten years is considered "long term" and the partner is entitled to collect a portion of his retirement benefits, in addition to staying on his medical plan at work for a certain amount of time. PLEASE look up online to see what your rights are in your area and then see an attorney. Find out all you can about your entitlements and you will have the proper questions to ask an attorney.

Find about what arrangements will be made for child care, who will pay for that, are if you entitled to alimony in additon to child support.
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Jun 22, 2006 8:19 PM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
RainbowSlider
RainbowSliderRainbowSliderYellville, USA171 Threads 7,174 Posts
Before my first divorce I was separated. I got my own room. I came to see my ex to talk. Her mother had convinced her to put a police order against me to keep me away. I left going back to my room. I went to work where the sherriff showed up with the divorce papers for me to sign in front of all my friends. My clothes were delivered by the police in three garbage bags in the lobby of the hotel where all my friends got to see me pick those clothes up. Everything else was sold that was mine even the car that I made the payments on. Before the second divorce the lady I was talking to online wanted to talk to my wife to discuss my behavior online. They had a nice conversation after which my wife tore into me. I was ready for a divorce and I paid for it the second time. The third time the wife died. I have learned one thing which has remained constant for 22 years of sobriety and clean time; "To thine ownself be true."
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Jun 22, 2006 8:36 PM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
letsgetoutthere
letsgetoutthereletsgetoutthereCaledon East, Ontario Canada6 Posts
When I was legally separated, we kept things as simple and amicable as possible. Although we were both advised by the lawyer who wrote up the agreement that we should list and value all of our assets both prior to, and during the marriage, we chose not to do it.

One reason that we were told it should be done is if equalization of assets comes into question...basically, they evalutate income, retirement funds, assets, etc., and see if one should owe money to the other once separated.

In our case, we only wanted what each of us considered to be ours during our marriage, so it was pretty straightforward. If you and your husband can't agree on these things, it could get ugly.

Either way, you will be advised that the lawyer who writes up the agreement cannot act on behalf of both of you, no matter how amicably the agreement is intended to be.

Wishing you luck!

M.
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Jun 23, 2006 7:33 AM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
soulmateTWS
soulmateTWSsoulmateTWSHappy in, Alabama USA8 Threads 4,935 Posts
That is sooo sweet of you. I'm in Alabama. I appreciate any input I can get..:bye:
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Jun 23, 2006 8:47 AM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
soulmateTWS
soulmateTWSsoulmateTWSHappy in, Alabama USA8 Threads 4,935 Posts
My "hubby" is a lot of things-but violent is not one of them. If he had ever raised a hand to me-I would have already shot him.(I'm really not kidding..) I was in that kind of relationship several yrs. ago and will not EVER be in that position again. It is because of that-I bought a pistol and got a concealed weapon permit and carry it everywhere.
Actually, hubby is a good man--just a lousy husband and father. I married for stability and security(PEOPLE NEVER--EVER-make that mistake)--it does not last........He just does not want me to leave and to divorce him...He knows that I'm unhappy and want out--he is blocking me at every turn. I'm not even fighting about the house and major things like that...Dunno...He says he still loves me--I just don't love him and want out!!!!!He is driving me nuts....doh
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Aug 2, 2006 7:39 PM CST LEGAL SEPARATIONS....
singlemom99
singlemom99singlemom99elkhart, Indiana USA4 Posts
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