Tamarin: This week in the UK there has been huge talk about how to stop such massive alcohol consumption...
The Government have suggested that they charge 50p per every alcohol level content per bottle whether it be spirits, wine, beer or cider...
Do you think we have a culture in the UK and Ireland that people drink till they fall down and puke?
Should we take a leaf out of the social drinking people do in France, Spain and Italy etc?
What, you think it is only a problem in the UK? We have alcohol problems in the US too. Especially among our youths. Too many wind up dead from toxic poisioning or auto crashes. The only way to fix the problem is to ban the problem. Like that will ever happen again.
buzzy: What, you think it is only a problem in the UK? We have alcohol problems in the US too. Especially among our youths. Too many wind up dead from toxic poisioning or auto crashes. The only way to fix the problem is to ban the problem. Like that will ever happen again.
Here in the UK we do not really here about the US drink problem...
When I was in Florida the people I saw drunk in a more responsible manner but then I maybe was in a very small circle...
morgan5: Since living abroad it has really hit home how badly the Brits
behave on holiday thro alcohol. What has suprized me it is not
only the teenagers it's all ages. Have never seen it from other
nationalities, have been ashamed to be British many times.
Think you are so right Morgan...it is how much alcohol they can guzzle but go out to dinner say at a French pal's home and we have the same amount of drink but most have just a few glasses of wine and the guys tend to have a cognac with coffee and that is it... Then as one of my European pals said when the guys get into conversation and talk with their hands the glasses have to be cleared from the table any how...
Tamarin: Think you are so right Morgan...it is how much alcohol they can guzzle but go out to dinner say at a French pal's home and we have the same amount of drink but most have just a few glasses of wine and the guys tend to have a cognac with coffee and that is it... Then as one of my European pals said when the guys get into conversation and talk with their hands the glasses have to be cleared from the table any how...
Bit of a mystery to me why people have to get in that
chrissst.helens, Merseyside, England UK4,472 posts
Tamarin: This week in the UK there has been huge talk about how to stop such massive alcohol consumption...
The Government have suggested that they charge 50p per every alcohol level content per bottle whether it be spirits, wine, beer or cider...
Do you think we have a culture in the UK and Ireland that people drink till they fall down and puke?
Should we take a leaf out of the social drinking people do in France, Spain and Italy etc?
i dont drink ofden infact i cant remember the last time, but when i do i love j/d, thats 40%vol and its bluddy expensive now,unless i get it from america like last time
Tamarin: This week in the UK there has been huge talk about how to stop such massive alcohol consumption...
The Government have suggested that they charge 50p per every alcohol level content per bottle whether it be spirits, wine, beer or cider...
Do you think we have a culture in the UK and Ireland that people drink till they fall down and puke?
Should we take a leaf out of the social drinking people do in France, Spain and Italy etc?
I do think theres a massive alcohol problem but I dont think the suggested charges will work either, they will only benefit the governments coffers whilst people re-learn the skills of home brewing, which is even stronger....... I really dislike this drinking culture........
buzzy: What, you think it is only a problem in the UK? We have alcohol problems in the US too. Especially among our youths. Too many wind up dead from toxic poisioning or auto crashes. The only way to fix the problem is to ban the problem. Like that will ever happen again.
I disagree with you there, Buzzy. I think the Italians and French have it right. Teach their young people to drink at their own dinner table with their parents. That's what I intend to do. Em knows that's my plan. She doesn't want to be one of these kids that can't hold her booze. We both think she'll be over the novelty of it by the time she's out on her own. It won't be such a big deal.
And for those who are wondering, I do not let Em drink yet. She has tasted white wine. She will be able to have a little wine with dinner when she's around 16 sometimes. That's my plan.
dcj22: I disagree with you there, Buzzy. I think the Italians and French have it right. Teach their young people to drink at their own dinner table with their parents. That's what I intend to do. Em knows that's my plan. She doesn't want to be one of these kids that can't hold her booze. We both think she'll be over the novelty of it by the time she's out on her own. It won't be such a big deal. And for those who are wondering, I do not let Em drink yet. She has tasted white wine. She will be able to have a little wine with dinner when she's around 16 sometimes. That's my plan.
Hi Dana i think that's a good point the culture around drinking is different.
dcj22: I disagree with you there, Buzzy. I think the Italians and French have it right. Teach their young people to drink at their own dinner table with their parents. That's what I intend to do. Em knows that's my plan. She doesn't want to be one of these kids that can't hold her booze. We both think she'll be over the novelty of it by the time she's out on her own. It won't be such a big deal. And for those who are wondering, I do not let Em drink yet. She has tasted white wine. She will be able to have a little wine with dinner when she's around 16 sometimes. That's my plan.
Hi Dana i think that's a good point the culture around drinking is different.
morgan5: Hi Dana i think that's a good point the culture around drinking is different.
Hi Lovely Morgan! I agree. It's the culture of drinking. In Italy and France, one appreciates a good wine with dinner and learns that it isn't a big deal to drink. In American, it's go out and party to prove that you can drink more than anyone else.. at least in the younger ages. JMO
dcj22: Hi Lovely Morgan! I agree. It's the culture of drinking. In Italy and France, one appreciates a good wine with dinner and learns that it isn't a big deal to drink. In American, it's go out and party to prove that you can drink more than anyone else.. at least in the younger ages. JMO
Same in the UK, i think for teenagers if it's something they know there parents will frown upon, they want to do it all the more part of growing up. What amazes me is seeing so many drunk tourists between 30-60yrs falling over the streets.
morgan5: Same in the UK, i think for teenagers if it's something they know there parents will frown upon, they want to do it all the more part of growing up. What amazes me is seeing so many drunk tourists between 30-60yrs falling over the streets.
I agree with you on the teens. I also don't understand the parents that just send their kids out once they're of legal age, say don't drink too much, and hope for the best.
dcj22: Hi Lovely Morgan! I agree. It's the culture of drinking. In Italy and France, one appreciates a good wine with dinner and learns that it isn't a big deal to drink. In American, it's go out and party to prove that you can drink more than anyone else.. at least in the younger ages. JMO
Oh, yeah...the "party til you puke" days...I remember them well. Or at least, I sure remember the hangovers, and having my friends tell me the next day what I did the night before.
And my parents did let us drink with holiday dinners and certain occasions. My dad made me a gin and tonic when I was 11 because he was having one and I wanted to try it. Didn't stop me from becoming an alcoholic with a lifetime battle to control my alcohol consumption, though.
But yes, we certainly have our alcohol problems here, too. I just stopped briefly at the VFW for a Diet 7Up on my way home from doing some errands, and a man I don't recognize (so not a frequent member there) was leaving just ahead of me, stumbled sideways and ran into the door frame, and commented that they need to make that doorway wider. I was thinking, no, apparently they need to serve you a few less drinks. And this was before 1 pm here. I see many stumble as they leave the clubs, and know quite a few who aren't able to drive right now because they don't have their licenses...they're on their 3rd or 4th DUI's.
i think y'all are getting a little of point here....i know a bunch of people getting plastered is'nt a good thing, by any stretch of the imagination but, do we want government to tell us what to do?... i know i don't
Binge drinking is a big problem amongst Australian youth in particular. They tend to use more spirits these days it seems.
Then there are the designer drugs that seem to go hand in hand. Here, police can now do on the spot testing for certain drugs, thank goodness, as drink driving is only part of the equation.
We have a massive problem here in New Zealand with a big 'Binge Drinking' problem....in fact,just before Christmas, there was a article in of New Zealands leading News Paper, title 'Cheers,every one we are slowly killing ourselves' this was relating to our Alcohol consumption here in New zealand....Understand perfectly on what you mean on the Drinking culture of Europeans,like The Netherlands,France,Spain,Portugal and Italy....very different attitude in those countries on consumption of Alcohol....Why...???..Good question...???.which I can't answer....
buzzy: What, you think it is only a problem in the UK? We have alcohol problems in the US too. Especially among our youths. Too many wind up dead from toxic poisioning or auto crashes. The only way to fix the problem is to ban the problem. Like that will ever happen again.
Prohibition was tried once in America,and in New Zealand and it was a complete and a total Disaster....it did not work.....in fact if history corrects me wrong here....That's how the 'Mafia' got so strong in America in the probational years of America...Correct.....? Solution....I honestly don't know....But Prohibition is not the answer.....
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The Government have suggested that they charge 50p per every alcohol level content per bottle whether it be spirits, wine, beer or cider...
Do you think we have a culture in the UK and Ireland that people drink till they fall down and puke?
Should we take a leaf out of the social drinking people do in France, Spain and Italy etc?