The unparalleled invasion ...for a (Christian) god (83)
krimsa: I think another thread should be started on it honestly because it is kind of interesting. There is also a great deal of historical hostility between the Protestants and Catholics...Bloody Mary and so forth.
You would only use that thread to bash all Christians....not a good idea!!
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Konigsberg: Hmm ... then what is the difference between Catholics and Christian religion?
Good Morning Trish
Good Morning Trish
There are some bible books that the Catholics use which were rejected by Protestants - there is also the matter of the trinitarian beliefs but that affected the orthodox christians more - basically, they are all Christians arguing amongst themselves
Morning M
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krimsa: Well either way, many Christians seem to want to "distance themselves from the stench of Catholicism." I find it silly as they both hold Jesus to be sacred. I just consider Catholicism another branch on the Christian tree.
Thats because they think they will win more votes for their own particular 'sect' if they distance themselves from various aspects of the original church........
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pretzelman: I can give several reasons and examples where there are major theological differences between Christians and Catholics...but that is not the purpose of this thread. I'll respect Ooby's intent
Then I'll shut up till next thread
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trish123: Thats because they think they will win more votes for their own particular 'sect' if they distance themselves from various aspects of the original church........
A ha! That sounds accurate to me.
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Konigsberg: Hmm ... After I read your thoughts ... i came to an awareness If God gave some people the right to control population? I know it sounds weird.
We do not have really mighty Natural predators among Human kind ... so here we go. Wars and Religion are the ones
And behind those wars and religions of all kinds (not exactly RELIGION but mere fanatism and mad obsession for all kinds of possesions and pleasure) there will be human beings more insane and more determined to lie, to twist the true meaning of their actions, and to contaminate other humans with new strains of the original disease.We do not have really mighty Natural predators among Human kind ... so here we go. Wars and Religion are the ones
Certainly the old habit to put a God behind human acts has found a clarification in its modern form: God could only be a lunatic super human bestowing power to the most insane people or allowing them to hold it. What is it then?
Wandering during my youth in the mountains of my country and asking -or even reproaching- the Mountain Gods why they had turned a blind eye to the destruction of my race many years ago the answer came as a very simple revelation or realisation -and who cares what word is used for that-
"That is what a true God is supposed to be. A point in the universe to which you approach little by little. Just a journey where the dangerous alternative ways are always along the way "
In other words a search for yourself and for an impossible peace laying inside. Gods then do not give power to us, do not even care about us, as the differences between them and us melt once we see through the confusion of human words and concepts.
If we had not lost this simple unity long ago then we would not have gone so far in our depravation.
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trish123: There are some bible books that the Catholics use which were rejected by Protestants - there is also the matter of the trinitarian beliefs but that affected the orthodox christians more - basically, they are all Christians arguing amongst themselves
Morning M
Morning M
Yep. I Was just going to say it seems like a bunch of broken factions just all arguing over what is the "correct" way to interpret a book that no one can agree on anyway. The biggest war will probably occur once the different Christian denominations actually target one another. I think that’s basically Armageddon right there.------ This thread is Archived ------
Antjo39: And behind those wars and religions of all kinds (not exactly RELIGION but mere fanatism and mad obsession for all kinds of possesions and pleasure) there will be human beings more insane and more determined to lie, to twist the true meaning of their actions, and to contaminate other humans with new strains of the original disease.
Certainly the old habit to put a God behind human acts has found a clarification in its modern form: God could only be a lunatic super human bestowing power to the most insane people or allowing them to hold it. What is it then?
Wandering during my youth in the mountains of my country and asking -or even reproaching- the Mountain Gods why they had turned a blind eye to the destruction of my race many years ago the answer came as a very simple revelation or realisation -and who cares what word is used for that-
"That is what a true God is supposed to be. A point in the universe to which you approach little by little. Just a journey where the dangerous alternative ways are always along the way "
In other words a search for yourself and for an impossible peace laying inside. Gods then do not give power to us, do not even care about us, as the differences between them and us melt once we see through the confusion of human words and concepts.
If we had not lost this simple unity long ago then we would not have gone so far in our depravation.
Certainly the old habit to put a God behind human acts has found a clarification in its modern form: God could only be a lunatic super human bestowing power to the most insane people or allowing them to hold it. What is it then?
Wandering during my youth in the mountains of my country and asking -or even reproaching- the Mountain Gods why they had turned a blind eye to the destruction of my race many years ago the answer came as a very simple revelation or realisation -and who cares what word is used for that-
"That is what a true God is supposed to be. A point in the universe to which you approach little by little. Just a journey where the dangerous alternative ways are always along the way "
In other words a search for yourself and for an impossible peace laying inside. Gods then do not give power to us, do not even care about us, as the differences between them and us melt once we see through the confusion of human words and concepts.
If we had not lost this simple unity long ago then we would not have gone so far in our depravation.
My Gods are Spirits of Nature, of Universes and I truly believe because of lost connection between Nature and Human kind ... Nature ... not God will teach as a lesson of respect to our own cradle Earth
"If we had not lost this simple unity long ago then we would not have gone so far in our depravation"
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trish123: There are some bible books that the Catholics use which were rejected by Protestants - there is also the matter of the trinitarian beliefs but that affected the orthodox christians more - basically, they are all Christians arguing amongst themselves
Morning M
Morning M
Trish...there are some fundamental beliefs that distance Christians from Catholics...not just minor differences. They are two very distinct religions, as far removed from each other as Hindu and Christianity. Mormonism and Christianity and Witnesses and Catholicism.
About the only thing they do agree on is that Christ is the son of God...
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krimsa: Yep. I Was just going to say it seems like a bunch of broken factions just all arguing over what is the "correct" way to interpret a book that no one can agree on anyway. The biggest war will probably occur once the different Christian denominations actually target one another. I think that’s basically Armageddon right there.
It is an Event Horizon speaking on Universal scale
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krimsa: Yep. I Was just going to say it seems like a bunch of broken factions just all arguing over what is the "correct" way to interpret a book that no one can agree on anyway. The biggest war will probably occur once the different Christian denominations actually target one another. I think that’s basically Armageddon right there.
Yep, I agree
but if it does come in the form of Islam against Christian what bothers me is that I hope they dont also target those of us who may live in Christian countries but are not religious..........------ This thread is Archived ------
Antjo39: And behind those wars and religions of all kinds (not exactly RELIGION but mere fanatism and mad obsession for all kinds of possesions and pleasure) there will be human beings more insane and more determined to lie, to twist the true meaning of their actions, and to contaminate other humans with new strains of the original disease.
Certainly the old habit to put a God behind human acts has found a clarification in its modern form: God could only be a lunatic super human bestowing power to the most insane people or allowing them to hold it. What is it then?
Wandering during my youth in the mountains of my country and asking -or even reproaching- the Mountain Gods why they had turned a blind eye to the destruction of my race many years ago the answer came as a very simple revelation or realisation -and who cares what word is used for that-
"That is what a true God is supposed to be. A point in the universe to which you approach little by little. Just a journey where the dangerous alternative ways are always along the way "
In other words a search for yourself and for an impossible peace laying inside. Gods then do not give power to us, do not even care about us, as the differences between them and us melt once we see through the confusion of human words and concepts.
If we had not lost this simple unity long ago then we would not have gone so far in our depravation.
Certainly the old habit to put a God behind human acts has found a clarification in its modern form: God could only be a lunatic super human bestowing power to the most insane people or allowing them to hold it. What is it then?
Wandering during my youth in the mountains of my country and asking -or even reproaching- the Mountain Gods why they had turned a blind eye to the destruction of my race many years ago the answer came as a very simple revelation or realisation -and who cares what word is used for that-
"That is what a true God is supposed to be. A point in the universe to which you approach little by little. Just a journey where the dangerous alternative ways are always along the way "
In other words a search for yourself and for an impossible peace laying inside. Gods then do not give power to us, do not even care about us, as the differences between them and us melt once we see through the confusion of human words and concepts.
If we had not lost this simple unity long ago then we would not have gone so far in our depravation.
I dont so much think we 'lost' the simple unity Antjo as much we had it systematically removed from us
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In response to: About the only thing they do agree on is that Christ is the son of God...
But you are implying that this is some kind of minor detail...
Its not. It’s what binds them together as differing denominations of the same faith. They aren’t Buddhists and they aren’t Muslims and they aren’t Pagans. They believe that Jesus was the son of god and they also believe that the bible was divinely inspired. They work from the same text...
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trish123: I dont so much think we 'lost' the simple unity Antjo as much we had it systematically removed from us
Yes, it has been sistematically removed, I meant though the times before the formation of those mounstrous states and religions in Europe and Asia. The time where men just managed to eliminate natural enemies and got their stores full of food. The struggle for life changed scenarios and human beings felt more and more away from nature and away from the basic but powerful things that animated their true spirituality and devotion to their old gods who were only an expression of themselves.
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Antjo39: Yes, it has been sistematically removed, I meant though the times before the formation of those mounstrous states and religions in Europe and Asia. The time where men just managed to eliminate natural enemies and got their stores full of food. The struggle for life changed scenarios and human beings felt more and more away from nature and away from the basic but powerful things that animated their true spirituality and devotion to their old gods who were only an expression of themselves.
Yep, we got manipulated basically
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pretzelman: Trish...there are some fundamental beliefs that distance Christians from Catholics...not just minor differences. They are two very distinct religions, as far removed from each other as Hindu and Christianity. Mormonism and Christianity and Witnesses and Catholicism.
About the only thing they do agree on is that Christ is the son of God...
About the only thing they do agree on is that Christ is the son of God...
I refuse to argue with you Shippy and I know you dont want that either
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I find it funny that other religions consider Catholics Catholics and not Christians. There are only two surving original christian religions-Roman Catholism and Eastern Orthodox all others are break away denominations.
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excuse me...Can we say...John the Baptist? Not John the Catholic???
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krimsa: But you are implying that this is some kind of minor detail...
Its not. It’s what binds them together as differing denominations of the same faith. They aren’t Buddhists and they aren’t Muslims and they aren’t Pagans. They believe that Jesus was the son of god and they also believe that the bible was divinely inspired. They work from the same text...
Its not. It’s what binds them together as differing denominations of the same faith. They aren’t Buddhists and they aren’t Muslims and they aren’t Pagans. They believe that Jesus was the son of god and they also believe that the bible was divinely inspired. They work from the same text...
Not true!..The Catholic Bible is different that the Protestant Bible
They aren't Buddists...yes
" " Muslims "
" " Pagans "
" " Scientologist...yes
" " Christians....... "
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I totally agree. In my mind there is just a veneer of difference between Catholics, Protestants Baptists etc. They are all Christians.
As a side note some have and some haven't noticed my subtle reference to a really great short story by Jack London called "The Unparalleled Invasion". It makes for some very interesting reading.