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Apr 11, 2009 1:04 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
Mercedes1
Mercedes1Mercedes1Sydney, New South Wales Australia101 Threads 1 Polls 3,764 Posts
zee1ander: What are y'all doing about your cane frog infestation?

zee


They dont have triggersroll eyes


laugh wink
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Apr 11, 2009 1:05 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
zee1ander: Consider this.... there is one gun per every 5 people in the US.... someone is not doing there part in in gun murders.

zee


That realtes to like 140 guns per Australian.

zee
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Apr 11, 2009 1:05 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
zee1ander: What are y'all doing about your cane frog infestation?

zee
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

mumbling grubby little toads...laugh
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Apr 11, 2009 1:06 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
Mercedes1: They dont have triggers


True, but ya hire some good ole boy/rednecks to come down and your problem will be over.

zee
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Apr 11, 2009 1:07 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
Mercedes1
Mercedes1Mercedes1Sydney, New South Wales Australia101 Threads 1 Polls 3,764 Posts
I will send you a toad in exchange for ya gungrin cheers
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Apr 11, 2009 1:08 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
i'll give you the link here it shows all crime stats for australia 1999~2000

i will try and get more recent stats

@.nsf/94713ad445ff1425ca25682000192af2/6dc2ae04ba5004c0ca256b35001967
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Apr 11, 2009 1:09 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
Mercedes1: I will send you a toad in exchange for ya gun


But you can't have guns.

zee
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Apr 11, 2009 1:14 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
Mercedes1
Mercedes1Mercedes1Sydney, New South Wales Australia101 Threads 1 Polls 3,764 Posts
jlw45: i generally don't bother with links either...the link i found was to make a point...the stats don't have to be exact...but, the point is, if the law abiding citizens turn in there guns, they will be unarmed against the unlawful....which is a mute point anyway...our second amendment rights ,in the states, is'nt for protection against thugs....it's for protection against government


Ok mate its like thisgrin

Im your next door neighbour for the past 20 years and I have Bi polar for instance..

For 20 years weve had barbecues on the odd weekend ect..

I have a gun for protection and sure enough you agree with that cause in your mind Im a bonza neighbour..

So Im ticked off one day and I dont care for my medication anymore and your son,daughter or grandchild has sooo ticked me off cause of my unstable mind and way of thinking..

I shoot..I shoot to kill 1 or all of your family members..

Will you forgive me cause I have a permit?wave
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Apr 11, 2009 1:14 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
zee1ander: That realtes to like 140 guns per Australian.

zee


it would actually relate more like 4 million people in australia would own guns if we had the same high level per capita of gun-ownership here in aus
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Apr 11, 2009 1:16 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Mercedes1: Ok mate its like this

Im your next door neighbour for the past 20 years and I have Bi polar for instance..

For 20 years weve had barbecues on the odd weekend ect..

I have a gun for protection and sure enough you agree with that cause in your mind Im a bonza neighbour..

So Im ticked off one day and I dont care for my medication anymore and your son,daughter or grandchild has sooo ticked me off cause of my unstable mind and way of thinking..

I shoot..I shoot to kill 1 or all of your family members..

Will you forgive me cause I have a permit?


gotta love merc....she SO aussielaugh applause
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Apr 11, 2009 1:16 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
Mercedes1
Mercedes1Mercedes1Sydney, New South Wales Australia101 Threads 1 Polls 3,764 Posts
rocketqueen: gotta love merc....she SO aussie




yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay cheers hug
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Apr 11, 2009 1:22 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
Mercedes1: Ok mate its like this

Im your next door neighbour for the past 20 years and I have Bi polar for instance..

For 20 years weve had barbecues on the odd weekend ect..

I have a gun for protection and sure enough you agree with that cause in your mind Im a bonza neighbour..

So Im ticked off one day and I dont care for my medication anymore and your son,daughter or grandchild has sooo ticked me off cause of my unstable mind and way of thinking..

I shoot..I shoot to kill 1 or all of your family members..

Will you forgive me cause I have a permit?


For one... if you have a medical disorder like Bipolar disorder, you can not get a permit. That is a law. So if you have a permit, you lied and are a criminal. Being that you are a criminal justifies me owning a gun to protect myself from you.

zee
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Apr 11, 2009 1:23 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
Mercedes1: Ok mate its like this

Im your next door neighbour for the past 20 years and I have Bi polar for instance..

For 20 years weve had barbecues on the odd weekend ect..

I have a gun for protection and sure enough you agree with that cause in your mind Im a bonza neighbour..

So Im ticked off one day and I dont care for my medication anymore and your son,daughter or grandchild has sooo ticked me off cause of my unstable mind and way of thinking..

I shoot..I shoot to kill 1 or all of your family members..

Will you forgive me cause I have a permit?
no...but i'de be worse at foregiving myself...because if we were having bar-b-ques and what not...i should have seen something wrong along time before you dropped off the deep end and i did'nt do anything about it before hand...there are laws in place that address such matters...as wiether or not someone has an unstable background...or if someone is a felon...the problems are'nt a matter of needing more laws...the problems are, in part, inforcing the laws that are already present...
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Apr 11, 2009 1:25 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
jlw45: i generally don't bother with links either...the link i found was to make a point...the stats don't have to be exact...but, the point is, if the law abiding citizens turn in there guns, they will be unarmed against the unlawful....which is a mute point anyway...our second amendment rights ,in the states, is'nt for protection against thugs....it's for protection against government


the link you found was flawed....

i live in victoria, and its a very safe place to live.....

i have been around enough to see alot in that time, and really things are actually getting safer, even with the population increasing......grin
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Apr 11, 2009 1:25 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
Suicide is considered murder in Australia?

zee
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Apr 11, 2009 1:26 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Mercedes1: Im leaving the links and stats to you gal


thats ok.....i'll do all the footworklaugh
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Apr 11, 2009 1:27 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
zee1ander: Suicide is considered murder in Australia?

zee


well, they just put it in for 'means of death' stats
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Apr 11, 2009 1:28 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
zee1ander: Suicide is considered murder in Australia?

zee
professor that cuts down on alotta' court costs...professor rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Apr 11, 2009 1:29 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
rocketqueen: International Homicide Rate Table (Death rates are per 100,000)

Country Year Population Total Homicide Firearm Homicide Non-Gun Homicide % Households With Guns
South Africa 1995 41,465,000 75.30 26.60 48.70 n/a
Colombia1 2005 43,000,000 36.53 29.59 6.94 n/a
Estonia 1994 1,499,257 28.21 8.07 20.14 n/a
Brazil 1993 160,737,000 19.04 10.58 8.46 n/a
Mexico 1994 90,011,259 17.58 9.88 7.70 n/a
Philippines 1996 72,000,000 16.20 3.50 12.70 n/a
Taiwan2 1996 21,979,444 8.12 0.97 7.15 n/a
N. Ireland 1994 1,641,711 6.09 5.24 0.85 8.4
United States3 1999 272,691,000 5.70 3.72 1.98 39.0
Argentina 1994 34,179,000 4.51 2.11 2.40 n/a
Hungary 1994 10,245,677 3.53 0.23 3.30 n/a
Finland4 1994 5,088,333 3.24 0.86 2.38 23.2
Portugal 1994 5,138,600 2.98 1.28 1.70 n/a
Mauritius 1993 1,062,810 2.35 0 2.35 n/a
Israel 1993 5,261,700 2.32 0.72 1.60 n/a
Italy 1992 56,764,854 2.25 1.66 0.59 16.0
Scotland 1994 5,132,400 2.24 0.19 2.05 4.7
Canada 1992 28,120,065 2.16 0.76 1.40 29.1
Slovenia 1994 1,989,477 2.01 0.35 1.66 n/a
Australia 1994 17,838,401 1.86 0.44 1.42 19.4
Singapore 1994 2,930,200 1.71 0.07 1.64 n/a
South Korea 1994 44,453,179 1.62 0.04 1.58 n/a
New Zealand 1993 3,458,850 1.47 0.17 1.30 22.3
Belgium 1990 9,967,387 1.41 0.60 0.81 16.6
England/Wales5 1997 51,429,000 1.41 0.11 1.30 4.7
Switzerland6 1994 7,021,000 1.32 0.58 0.74 27.2
Sweden 1993 8,718,571 1.30 0.18 1.12 15.1
Denmark 1993 5,189,378 1.21 0.23 0.98 n/a
Austria 1994 8,029,717 1.17 0.42 0.75 n/a
Germany7 1994 81,338,093 1.17 0.22 0.95 8.9
Greece 1994 10,426,289 1.14 0.59 0.55 n/a
France 1994 57,915,450 1.12 0.44 0.68 22.6
Netherlands 1994 15,382,830 1.11 0.36 0.75 1.9
Kuwait 1995 1,684,529 1.01 0.36 0.65 n/a
Norway 1993 4,324,815 0.97 0.30 0.67 32.0
Spain 1993 39,086,079 0.95 0.21 0.74 13.1
Japan 1994 124,069,000 0.62 0.02 0.60 n/a
Ireland 1991 3,525,719 0.62 0.03 0.59 n/a
Country Year Population Total Homicide Firearm Homicide Non-Gun Homicide % Households With Guns


these stats for oz were actually before the gun amnesty
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Apr 11, 2009 1:31 AM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
rocketqueen: well, they just put it in for 'means of death' stats


So, you throw their dead carcass in a cell?... what does their cell mate think? If someone is so depressed in Australia that they want to kill themself and they can't find a gun.... they figure they better just go on with their life because a rope is too much work?

zee
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