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Apr 10, 2009 8:34 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
Recently Michigan, another mad person went off the rails and took his gun out and decided to shoot some people for no reason whatsoever.

Do you believe it's about time that gun ownership was made more difficult for United States citizens?

How many more people need to die needlessly before gun control is instigated?
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Apr 10, 2009 8:47 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Robbie, I expected much more sense out of you than this! doh scold

I've stood on this issue and stated facts many times, my friend, and I'm just not in the mood tonight before I head off to work...but the basic is that gun control isn't the answer. Taking the guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens just puts many more of them in the hands of criminals. That's a proven fact.

Want the stats on crime vs. guns in this country? Read John Lott's book "More Guns, Less Crime". He was in favor of gun control and set out to back up his position with statistics and facts. What he found was, in fact, the opposite to be true, and now lobbies against gun control.

Done on this for tonight...have fun. It's getting to be time again for me to sit in front of the TV and relax for my final hour and a half before leaving for work. wave
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Apr 10, 2009 8:58 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
PeachesandRay
PeachesandRayPeachesandRayConcord, North Carolina USA72 Threads 1 Polls 1,358 Posts
Gun control doesn't work. What has to be done is to put into place stiffer penalties for the use of a gun in a crime.

In the cases of the killings at Virginia Tech and in Binghamton NY, the first is known to have had mental health problems. Second, both were immigrants and should not have been allowed to buy any type of gun




Earl
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Apr 10, 2009 8:58 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
Then they will use poison.....next time they will use a bomb.....next time a fuel truck......next time a semi truck through a crowd or building. The problem is people treating each other like garbage. Look at the shows for kids.....a bunch of smart mouth egotisical uppity better than you brat.....teaching our children to be like adults and tear down their fellows for the sake of pleasure and ego. A person who feels good about themselves and about life and their fellow man never blows the heads off of his friends. We need to change how we treat each other.....it is us that are creating monsters day by day. Then we say....huh....they just snapped.....wonder why he went off his nut.....maybe it was prozac or a family mental thing....Foolishness! Man kills not a piece of metal.....they kill all at once and we kill each other day by day and word by word.
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Apr 10, 2009 9:00 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
PeachesandRay: Gun control doesn't work. What has to be done is to put into place stiffer penalties for the use of a gun in a crime.

In the cases of the killings at Virginia Tech and in Binghamton NY, the first is known to have had mental health problems. Second, both were immigrants and should not have been allowed to buy any type of gun

Earl


Unless they had become citizens, Earl. Once they become a citizen, they have all of the rights of one. Go back far enough, and we're all immigrants...unless you're 100% Native American.
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Apr 10, 2009 9:01 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
adamisk
adamiskadamiskraleigh, Mississippi USA34 Threads 4 Polls 1,325 Posts
how many people would he have gotten if everyone on the street was shooting back ? gun possession should be mandatory . when you go through a roadblock the officer should ask for licence proof of insurance and to see your gun if you don't have one he gives you one and a ticket for not having a gun .
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Apr 10, 2009 9:01 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
RillyNiceGuy: Then they will use poison.....next time they will use a bomb.....next time a fuel truck......next time a semi truck through a crowd or building. The problem is people treating each other like garbage. Look at the shows for kids.....a bunch of smart mouth egotistical uppity better than you brat.....teaching our children to be like adults and tear down their fellows for the sake of pleasure and ego. A person who feels good about themselves and about life and their fellow man never blows the heads off of his friends. We need to change how we treat each other.....it is us that are creating monsters day by day. Then we say....huh....they just snapped.....wonder why he went off his nut.....maybe it was prozac or a family mental thing....Foolishness! Man kills not a piece of metal.....they kill all at once and we kill each other day by day and word by word.


Exactly, Rilly...if guns aren't available, these people will find another method. Gun control is NOT the answer. thumbs up
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Apr 10, 2009 9:03 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
adamisk: how many people would he have gotten if everyone on the street was shooting back ? gun possession should be mandatory . when you go through a roadblock the officer should ask for license proof of insurance and to see your gun if you don't have one he gives you one and a ticket for not having a gun .


I'll disagree on making gun possession mandatory, though, Adam. It's a free country...we should have the right to choose whether or not to own a gun, but we should never force anyone to do so. I don't believe in infringement on one's rights in either direction.

wine
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Apr 10, 2009 9:04 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
In response to: Do you believe it's about time that gun ownership was made more difficult for United States citizens?


I think here in Kentucky, we have a great "gun control" system. I wear a gun on my hip freely if I choose and, the crime rate around here (my neighborhood) is practiaclly non-existant.
For those not knowing, we are allowed to bear arms as long as they are visible. However, concealed weapons are against the law.
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Apr 10, 2009 9:11 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
PeachesandRay
PeachesandRayPeachesandRayConcord, North Carolina USA72 Threads 1 Polls 1,358 Posts
druidess6308: Unless they had become citizens, Earl. Once they become a citizen, they have all of the rights of one. Go back far enough, and we're all immigrants...unless you're 100% Native American.


The problem with allowing an immigrant to buy guns, they have to go thru a background check and that is difficult when it comes to getting info from some countries
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Apr 10, 2009 9:11 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
druidess6308: Robbie, I expected much more sense out of you than this!

I've stood on this issue and stated facts many times, my friend, and I'm just not in the mood tonight before I head off to work...but the basic is that gun control isn't the answer. Taking the guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens just puts many more of them in the hands of criminals. That's a proven fact.

Want the stats on crime vs. guns in this country? Read John Lott's book "More Guns, Less Crime". He was in favor of gun control and set out to back up his position with statistics and facts. What he found was, in fact, the opposite to be true, and now lobbies against gun control.

Done on this for tonight...have fun. It's getting to be time again for me to sit in front of the TV and relax for my final hour and a half before leaving for work.


They disarmed us here and everybody fell for it like sheep to the slaughter dunno
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Apr 10, 2009 9:12 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
Mercedes1
Mercedes1Mercedes1Sydney, New South Wales Australia101 Threads 1 Polls 3,764 Posts
Get your Ministers to look at Australias gun lawscheering
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Apr 10, 2009 9:13 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
PeachesandRay
PeachesandRayPeachesandRayConcord, North Carolina USA72 Threads 1 Polls 1,358 Posts
YouMeUs: I think here in Kentucky, we have a great "gun control" system. I wear a gun on my hip freely if I choose and, the crime rate around here (my neighborhood) is practiaclly non-existant.
For those not knowing, we are allowed to bear arms as long as they are visible. However, concealed weapons are against the law.


In some states such as NH and here in NC, a permit is required to carry concealed. I have one for NH
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Apr 10, 2009 9:14 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
bamma882
bamma882bamma882baltimore, Maryland USA10 Threads 270 Posts
What is up with all the mass shooting lately in the U.S.? Seems like everyday there is a new one. It better stay out of baltimore.
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Apr 10, 2009 9:14 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
tainogirl
tainogirltainogirlTrincity,West Indies,, Trinidad and Tobago215 Threads 2 Polls 3,777 Posts
While I don't think its the owning of the gun that is the problem, I do think people feeling hopeless and desparate is. If people do not get the proper help to deal with some of their mental issues that drive them to kill I am afraid this situation will keep repeating itself. Almost anyone can snap if the right buttons are pushed, its knowing the signs to look for and getting them the help they need before they hurt themselves and others.
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Apr 10, 2009 9:15 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
RobbieM: Recently Michigan, another mad person went off the rails and took his gun out and decided to shoot some people for no reason whatsoever.

Do you believe it's about time that gun ownership was made more difficult for United States citizens?

How many more people need to die needlessly before gun control is instigated?


Guns may be hard to get in the UK, but it seems like bombs are mighty easy to get.

zee
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Apr 10, 2009 9:15 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
trish123: They disarmed us here and everybody fell for it like sheep to the slaughter



With a slight modification to your statement:


We allowed them to
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Apr 10, 2009 9:15 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
trish123: They disarmed us here and everybody fell for it like sheep to the slaughter


Which makes me wonder if these things aren't the actions of Intelligence provocateurs, seeking to bolster support for gun control out of fear.

The only thing that makes me afraid is the government taking away my ability to defend myself. Everything else, is just rhetoric.
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Apr 10, 2009 9:15 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
Mercedes1: Get your Ministers to look at Australias gun laws


Better yet... look at kentucky gun laws.

zee
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Apr 10, 2009 9:16 PM CST On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
PeachesandRay: In some states such as NH and here in NC, a permit is required to carry concealed. I have one for NH


I dont know how I would be with all that power in my hands - goodness, the power to kill in one shot...... how do you people cope when you get really mad at somebody????????
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