On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........ (488)
RobbieM: Zee, if i say i am an arms dealer with a chicken standing on my head it makes no difference to the debate now does it?
The issue unless you forgot is what makes Americans have the propensity to use firearms on each other, what can be done to limit this, will better regulation and the type of weaponry available to the common guy like you in the street help or for arguments sake what will make the deaths outside of those caused(illegally) military type firearms and should these type of weapons only be available to law enforcement and the military.
Now Zee, if you don't have anything to comment, add or contribute other than duff links and wondering what my previous background is, why bother to post?
I could be sitting here dressed up like mini mouse eating popcorn with a badger for company, but what does that have to do with the subject at hand?
The issue unless you forgot is what makes Americans have the propensity to use firearms on each other, what can be done to limit this, will better regulation and the type of weaponry available to the common guy like you in the street help or for arguments sake what will make the deaths outside of those caused(illegally) military type firearms and should these type of weapons only be available to law enforcement and the military.
Now Zee, if you don't have anything to comment, add or contribute other than duff links and wondering what my previous background is, why bother to post?
I could be sitting here dressed up like mini mouse eating popcorn with a badger for company, but what does that have to do with the subject at hand?
You were the one that brought up your background. Seems to me that it is up for debate.
Why do you even care when it comes to the liberties that Americans have? I am not British and I really don't care how you choose to lead your life as well as you should care less how I lead mine... well unless your country is planning on invading mine. Then I can understand how worried you should be when it comes to how well armed the citizenry is.
zee
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rocketqueen: earl what about all the 'genuine' americans that go one shootings, it isnt a race thing ya know!!
Don't know where you got that bit about race from as there was nothing about race in my statement
Earl
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trish123: I dont know how I would be with all that power in my hands - goodness, the power to kill in one shot...... how do you people cope when you get really mad at somebody????????
I've been so mad at some coworkers that I wanted to do major bodily harm to them,while having a firearm available and had forgotten about it!
I never thought to use it in an offensive maner. When the police was called I rembered and secured my weapon.
Personal issues are no reason/excuse to use a weapon!!!
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PeachesandRay: Don't know where you got that bit about race from as there was nothing about race in my statement
Earl
Earl
you mentioned that the previous couple of massacres where actually done by immigrants who shouldnt have a right to own guns
but as druidess said that they were actually citizens of your country, so had full rights to own arms, and that massacres occur with born and bred 'origin' americans.....
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drew4069: I've been so mad at some coworkers that I wanted to do major bodily harm to them,while having a firearm available and had forgotten about it!
I never thought to use it in an offensive maner. When the police was called I rembered and secured my weapon.
Personal issues are no reason/excuse to use a weapon!!!
I never thought to use it in an offensive maner. When the police was called I rembered and secured my weapon.
Personal issues are no reason/excuse to use a weapon!!!
this is not self defense
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Paradox67: Respectfully, my point is valid. I wrote it in a funny way but I meant every word of it. The problem is that peole will find a way as long as they want to kill. If you are looking for evidence, you have only to look at our history. And more recently, gun sales have almost doubled because people are afraid that Obama is going to take away their gun rights.
You are seriously worried about a Saudi Arabian in hiding in Pakistan when your largest chance of being shot is not result of terrorism, but more likely at an ATM at the hands of another American?
Why do you think the average American feels the need to own say a machinegun...for self defence? Deer Hunting??????? Duck Shooting?????????
What skill does it take to shoot a duck,deer with 30 rounds from a modified AR14 rifle with a triburst trigger, much less an imported GR3 or say G36c or MP5?
I hate to point this out, but you have more to fear from domestic terrorists than any from abroad....and worse of all they will be armed with the very weapons legally that you are all allowed to own!
So why not limit availability, and reduce exposure?
That way kids can't buy legal weapons at arms shows and take them into schools and blow away their classmates.
If you have any ideas on how to stop this i'd be interested, as this is the theme i started the thread on, not an Americans right to bear arms.
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PeachesandRay: Don't know where you got that bit about race from as there was nothing about race in my statement
Earl
Earl
this is what you said earl on page 1~
Gun control doesn't work. What has to be done is to put into place stiffer penalties for the use of a gun in a crime.
In the cases of the killings at Virginia Tech and in Binghamton NY, the first is known to have had mental health problems. Second, both were immigrants and should not have been allowed to buy any type of gun
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zee1ander: Are you telling me that I need to go to bed?
zee
zee
no i'm telling you to stop drinking so much coffee!!
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Zee, if you cant debate the issue, why not go to another thread?
Look up "debate" in the dictionary...this is "a debate"...if you don't like it, simply leave the thread man.
It's really that simple....
Look up "debate" in the dictionary...this is "a debate"...if you don't like it, simply leave the thread man.
It's really that simple....
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rocketqueen: you mentioned that the previous couple of massacres where actually done by immigrants who shouldnt have a right to own guns
but as druidess said that they were actually citizens of your country, so had full rights to own arms, and that massacres occur with born and bred 'origin' americans.....
but as druidess said that they were actually citizens of your country, so had full rights to own arms, and that massacres occur with born and bred 'origin' americans.....
Both were immigrants who had become citizens
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PeachesandRay: Both were immigrants who had become citizens
Were their guns purchased legally?
Or are we to assume any Immigrant may be a danger to US citizens?
That would do wonders for your tourism industry.
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RobbieM: You are seriously worried about a Saudi Arabian in hiding in Pakistan when your largest chance of being shot is not result of terrorism, but more likely at an ATM at the hands of another American?
Why do you think the average American feels the need to own say a machinegun...for self defence? Deer Hunting??????? Duck Shooting?????????
What skill does it take to shoot a duck,deer with 30 rounds from a modified AR14 rifle with a triburst trigger, much less an imported GR3 or say G36c or MP5?
I hate to point this out, but you have more to fear from domestic terrorists than any from abroad....and worse of all they will be armed with the very weapons legally that you are all allowed to own!
So why not limit availability, and reduce exposure?
That way kids can't buy legal weapons at arms shows and take them into schools and blow away their classmates.
If you have any ideas on how to stop this i'd be interested, as this is the theme i started the thread on, not an Americans right to bear arms.
Why do you think the average American feels the need to own say a machinegun...for self defence? Deer Hunting??????? Duck Shooting?????????
What skill does it take to shoot a duck,deer with 30 rounds from a modified AR14 rifle with a triburst trigger, much less an imported GR3 or say G36c or MP5?
I hate to point this out, but you have more to fear from domestic terrorists than any from abroad....and worse of all they will be armed with the very weapons legally that you are all allowed to own!
So why not limit availability, and reduce exposure?
That way kids can't buy legal weapons at arms shows and take them into schools and blow away their classmates.
If you have any ideas on how to stop this i'd be interested, as this is the theme i started the thread on, not an Americans right to bear arms.
I take it you have never been duck hunting. Plus, it is illegal to hunt ducks with a rifle. You should know this being an arms dealer. Also, why would you think anyone would ever take a full auto firearm deer hunting? It is hunting, not killing. You should have known that too.
Where do you get your information on gun rights and laws in America? You understanding of American laws is truly flawed.
zee
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RobbieM: You are seriously worried about a Saudi Arabian in hiding in Pakistan when your largest chance of being shot is not result of terrorism, but more likely at an ATM at the hands of another American?
Why do you think the average American feels the need to own say a machinegun...for self defence? Deer Hunting??????? Duck Shooting?????????
What skill does it take to shoot a duck,deer with 30 rounds from a modified AR14 rifle with a triburst trigger, much less an imported GR3 or say G36c or MP5?
I hate to point this out, but you have more to fear from domestic terrorists than any from abroad....and worse of all they will be armed with the very weapons legally that you are all allowed to own!
So why not limit availability, and reduce exposure?
That way kids can't buy legal weapons at arms shows and take them into schools and blow away their classmates.
If you have any ideas on how to stop this i'd be interested, as this is the theme i started the thread on, not an Americans right to bear arms.
Why do you think the average American feels the need to own say a machinegun...for self defence? Deer Hunting??????? Duck Shooting?????????
What skill does it take to shoot a duck,deer with 30 rounds from a modified AR14 rifle with a triburst trigger, much less an imported GR3 or say G36c or MP5?
I hate to point this out, but you have more to fear from domestic terrorists than any from abroad....and worse of all they will be armed with the very weapons legally that you are all allowed to own!
So why not limit availability, and reduce exposure?
That way kids can't buy legal weapons at arms shows and take them into schools and blow away their classmates.
If you have any ideas on how to stop this i'd be interested, as this is the theme i started the thread on, not an Americans right to bear arms.
I'm not worried at all. I'm just stating cause and affect. When people saw that Obama could be elected, gun sales about doubled.
People don't need machine guns. But no government can stop them. And trying to resulted in an increase in sales.
Idea to reduce sales? Shut down all gun manufacturing plants. Within a short time a black market will form. Revolutions have started over less.
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rocketqueen: this is what you said earl on page 1~
Gun control doesn't work. What has to be done is to put into place stiffer penalties for the use of a gun in a crime.
In the cases of the killings at Virginia Tech and in Binghamton NY, the first is known to have had mental health problems. Second, both were immigrants and should not have been allowed to buy any type of gun
Gun control doesn't work. What has to be done is to put into place stiffer penalties for the use of a gun in a crime.
In the cases of the killings at Virginia Tech and in Binghamton NY, the first is known to have had mental health problems. Second, both were immigrants and should not have been allowed to buy any type of gun
The only word I used in that statement was "immigrants". Maybe if I had said latinos, asians or some other, then I would be talking about race
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Hey Zee you need to take a break from your pc or laptop and Im not saying this because of what is going on in this thread..
Im telling you for medical reasons and you gotta rest upstairs for your rehabilitation
Im telling you for medical reasons and you gotta rest upstairs for your rehabilitation
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PeachesandRay: Both were immigrants who had become citizens
..........and the point was?? unless you are native american, you were born of immigrant ancestors
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Gun availabilty = More guns in circulation.
More guns in circulation = More chance of senseless killing...
More guns in circulation = More chance of senseless killing...
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Thread: On the day when another maniac goes off the rails........
Category: CS Lounge
Thread Author: RobbieM
Post Author: zee1ander
I went to the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot here in Kentucky and guess what? I met about 20 people from the UK. They came here just to be able to shoot a gun and WOW they had fun. So I don't think that everyone in your country is anti-gun.
Just to clarify a point zee, England, or rather London, despite all the 'anti-gun laws' does allow people any people in a group of up toa dozen or so to cruise along the Thames River in the heart of London, shooting and sipping wine.
Shooting on the Thames is not something to attempt on your own however. Police may decide to shoot back.
Provided that you are part of an organized event, which has passed all necessary checks, you can shoot clays quite merrily from the comfort of a luxury boat, with the 02 and Thames Barrier forming an unexpected backdrop.
One of the most popular cruise boats today is the Havengore. This is the vessel that carried Churhill's coffin from Tower Pier to Festival Pier back in 1965, watched by 350 million people worldwide. This boat, now fully restored is available for hire, should you or anyone wish to relax and shoot at clays with up to 29 other gun enthusiasts salivating at the mere thought of blasting away in London.
Today, you can board this boat at Canary Wharf and, amid animated chatter about the usual inclement skies and hearty breeze, tuck in to the mini Yorkshire puddings and Greek salad canapes. Shooting instructors are on board, usually from the Clay Shooting Company. The boat drops anchor in the middle of the river, just beyond the the Thames Barrier, and the ever so polite instructors set up the traps at the front.
One usually shoots in pairs with those patient and polite instructors at hand to help the over enthused and the usual novices and ensure that it's all done above board. Shooting with houses all around is rather exciting and having the proper stance in precarious at times as when the surface underfoot is moving. It is somewhat like bringing the countryside shooting clubs inside a city, but one gets used to it. Usually, the clientele, from party organizers, executives from various establishments have never shot before but those helpful, patient and friendly instructors have them all blasting away at the clays, smashing them to smithereens in no time.
When the clays are finally spent, you cruise up the Thames to the London Eye to disembark, but not before posing for photos with the guns under the proud bulk of Tower Bridge(barrels must be broken, of course, and no, after the clays are out, one isn't allowed to shoot using all the empty wine bottles!)
For further info on booking this jolly good shooting cruise, Havengore, telephone 084 003 1343 or visit venues-of-distiction.com and for any info on the clay shooting, 0870-609 1751 or dayshootingcompany.com
Can anyone imagine shooting cruises on any rivers through any city in the US without automatic weapons systems!!??
(ummm, I wonder if Robbie could/would work as an instructor on these cruises; it's right in his area... )
Category: CS Lounge
Thread Author: RobbieM
Post Author: zee1ander
I went to the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot here in Kentucky and guess what? I met about 20 people from the UK. They came here just to be able to shoot a gun and WOW they had fun. So I don't think that everyone in your country is anti-gun.
Just to clarify a point zee, England, or rather London, despite all the 'anti-gun laws' does allow people any people in a group of up toa dozen or so to cruise along the Thames River in the heart of London, shooting and sipping wine.
Shooting on the Thames is not something to attempt on your own however. Police may decide to shoot back.
Provided that you are part of an organized event, which has passed all necessary checks, you can shoot clays quite merrily from the comfort of a luxury boat, with the 02 and Thames Barrier forming an unexpected backdrop.
One of the most popular cruise boats today is the Havengore. This is the vessel that carried Churhill's coffin from Tower Pier to Festival Pier back in 1965, watched by 350 million people worldwide. This boat, now fully restored is available for hire, should you or anyone wish to relax and shoot at clays with up to 29 other gun enthusiasts salivating at the mere thought of blasting away in London.
Today, you can board this boat at Canary Wharf and, amid animated chatter about the usual inclement skies and hearty breeze, tuck in to the mini Yorkshire puddings and Greek salad canapes. Shooting instructors are on board, usually from the Clay Shooting Company. The boat drops anchor in the middle of the river, just beyond the the Thames Barrier, and the ever so polite instructors set up the traps at the front.
One usually shoots in pairs with those patient and polite instructors at hand to help the over enthused and the usual novices and ensure that it's all done above board. Shooting with houses all around is rather exciting and having the proper stance in precarious at times as when the surface underfoot is moving. It is somewhat like bringing the countryside shooting clubs inside a city, but one gets used to it. Usually, the clientele, from party organizers, executives from various establishments have never shot before but those helpful, patient and friendly instructors have them all blasting away at the clays, smashing them to smithereens in no time.
When the clays are finally spent, you cruise up the Thames to the London Eye to disembark, but not before posing for photos with the guns under the proud bulk of Tower Bridge(barrels must be broken, of course, and no, after the clays are out, one isn't allowed to shoot using all the empty wine bottles!)
For further info on booking this jolly good shooting cruise, Havengore, telephone 084 003 1343 or visit venues-of-distiction.com and for any info on the clay shooting, 0870-609 1751 or dayshootingcompany.com
Can anyone imagine shooting cruises on any rivers through any city in the US without automatic weapons systems!!??
(ummm, I wonder if Robbie could/would work as an instructor on these cruises; it's right in his area...
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vinny1967: Gun availabilty = More guns in circulation.
More guns in circulation = More chance of senseless killing...
More guns in circulation = More chance of senseless killing...
thats all folks!!!
yay vinny
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