Freedom - Could you handle it? ( Archived) (23)

Apr 13, 2009 1:07 AM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
Scubadiva
ScubadivaScubadivaNew Jersey, USA106 Threads 11 Polls 2,689 Posts
In the US, we get old "freedom" this, "freedom" that line ad nauseum, but how free are we really?

We're tied down by financial obligations (mortgage, taxes, property, family), and most importantly the fact that we have to have jobs to keep us afloat. Few of us manage to get to the point of packing it in and going where we want to go or do as we really please.

Would you know what to do with yourself if you weren't tied down by anything at all (short of the Feds wanting their taxes); if you were really free to do as you please with reasonable means would you be happy?

Would you get bored? Would you want "some" ties to feel as if you have a "home"? or would you be content to be a "citizen of the world"? Could you handle being truly free?
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Apr 13, 2009 1:10 AM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
I think so. I'd travel the world and write my thoughts, and maybe someone would even want to read them. But if not, I still think I'd be fine. thumbs up
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Apr 13, 2009 1:20 AM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
I think some traveling would be nice , but I think I would feel more content with my HOME BASE, tho a home base without a partner stinksroll eyes hug
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Apr 13, 2009 1:22 AM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
I am basically free. I own my home, I own my car and I own my neighbors dogs. What I must pay are taxes and utilities, basically. I never get bored. So what do I do with myself? I look for someone that I can get tied down with!
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Apr 13, 2009 1:36 AM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
Shedman01
Shedman01Shedman01Gonzales, Texas USA16 Threads 2 Polls 1,029 Posts
Scubadiva: In the US, we get old "freedom" this, "freedom" that line ad nauseum, but how free are we really?

We're tied down by financial obligations (mortgage, taxes, property, family), and most importantly the fact that we have to have jobs to keep us afloat. Few of us manage to get to the point of packing it in and going where we want to go or do as we really please.

Would you know what to do with yourself if you weren't tied down by anything at all (short of the Feds wanting their taxes); if you were really free to do as you please with reasonable means would you be happy?

Would you get bored? Would you want "some" ties to feel as if you have a "home"? or would you be content to be a "citizen of the world"? Could you handle being truly free?


Yup I can handle it as I have been free the past two years. I am able to live on very little money and I have been traveling around the States helping out my family and friends with things they need done all the while attending college for my degree and everyone I know is available online or via cell phone.

My wish is that being able to be a world citizen was in fact possible but moving between countries is very difficult in todays world especially. It would be very nice to be able to get some kind of all round pass that would be recognized by as many countries as possible so one could easily relocate country to country without spending a year or more getting permissions etc just to have to do it all over again.

Get me that freedom and I indeed would become a citizen of the world as quickly as possible. As for getting bored?? oh heck no, but would I like to have a traveling companion?... without a doubt.

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Apr 13, 2009 1:39 AM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Scubadiva: In the US, we get old "freedom" this, "freedom" that line ad nauseum, but how free are we really?

We're tied down by financial obligations (mortgage, taxes, property, family), and most importantly the fact that we have to have jobs to keep us afloat. Few of us manage to get to the point of packing it in and going where we want to go or do as we really please.

Would you know what to do with yourself if you weren't tied down by anything at all (short of the Feds wanting their taxes); if you were really free to do as you please with reasonable means would you be happy?

Would you get bored? Would you want "some" ties to feel as if you have a "home"? or would you be content to be a "citizen of the world"? Could you handle being truly free?


I take it you mean no children, no pets, nothing at all to tie you down in any way? No, I wouldn't want that at all. Even when my sons are grown and living their own lives, I will have pets, so I'll always have ties to a home.

I like having roots and obligations in my life. wine
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Apr 13, 2009 2:28 AM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Shedman01: Yup I can handle it as I have been free the past two years. I am able to live on very little money and I have been traveling around the States helping out my family and friends with things they need done all the while attending college for my degree and everyone I know is available online or via cell phone.

My wish is that being able to be a world citizen was in fact possible but moving between countries is very difficult in todays world especially. It would be very nice to be able to get some kind of all round pass that would be recognized by as many countries as possible so one could easily relocate country to country without spending a year or more getting permissions etc just to have to do it all over again.

Get me that freedom and I indeed would become a citizen of the world as quickly as possible. As for getting bored?? oh heck no, but would I like to have a traveling companion?... without a doubt.



I know I would certainly enjoy myself....wave wink And wow...I think that's just awesome Shed....all of it....hug kiss hug heart beating grin
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Apr 13, 2009 2:54 AM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
willuman
willumanwillumanFreedom&Peace, North Holland Netherlands74 Threads 55 Polls 319 Posts
WOW, What an interesting question. I'm adding you to my Fav. List! I love this question. Let me leave it at that! lips lips I'm single you know!kiss
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Apr 13, 2009 7:16 AM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
Scubadiva
ScubadivaScubadivaNew Jersey, USA106 Threads 11 Polls 2,689 Posts
Interesting to read everyone's perspective. Thanks.

I think I've managed to be as free as one can be (can't outrun the IRS unfortunately) but I've also encountered quite a few people who are perplexed when I tell them that I have no "home." (by choice!). That, more than anything seems to be peoples' foremost concern - having a home-base, some place to go to, a place where they have roots... and I find myself wondering: why is that? is that our nature? or is it environmental? It would seem to make sense if one is of child-rearing age, but then when one's past that stage, is it still important? ... why?...hmmm....
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Apr 13, 2009 7:18 AM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
Paradox67
Paradox67Paradox67Collegeville, Pennsylvania USA9 Threads 5 Polls 1,170 Posts
I would live as I was truly meant to, "Free at last....Free at last..."
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Apr 13, 2009 7:21 AM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
Goddess4u
Goddess4uGoddess4uThe Capital, Greater London, England UK15 Threads 3,131 Posts
YouMeUs: I am basically free. I own my home, I own my car and I own my neighbors dogs. What I must pay are taxes and utilities, basically. I never get bored. So what do I do with myself? I look for someone that I can get tied down with!


Ditto to that thumbs up
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Apr 13, 2009 9:08 AM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
Big_John
Big_JohnBig_JohnOcean Springs, Mississippi USA19 Threads 9,767 Posts
I am retired and truly have no financial obligations that tie me down. I have been very lucky in life! So your real question is for someone like me do I get bored. The simple answer is no.

I worked years getting to a point where I had the financial ability to retire; however, I had read many, many books and articles about after money, what then? When you wake up the day after retiring what are you going to do with the rest of your life. So I went abut studying how I was going to live in retirment.

It took me two years to figure out the life I wanted. Since I retired three years ago I often wonder how I ever had time to work. My days are filled from sunrise to the time I go to bed. I have filled my life when things I love to experience. If you read my profile you will see me!

Do I want some ties that bind? The ones I have I have choosen to keep in my life.
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Apr 13, 2009 7:07 PM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
RicoWest
RicoWestRicoWestlos angeles, California USA52 Threads 1 Polls 612 Posts
Scubadiva: In the US, we get old "freedom" this, "freedom" that line ad nauseum, but how free are we really?

We're tied down by financial obligations (mortgage, taxes, property, family), and most importantly the fact that we have to have jobs to keep us afloat. Few of us manage to get to the point of packing it in and going where we want to go or do as we really please.

Would you know what to do with yourself if you weren't tied down by anything at all (short of the Feds wanting their taxes); if you were really free to do as you please with reasonable means would you be happy?

Would you get bored? Would you want "some" ties to feel as if you have a "home"? or would you be content to be a "citizen of the world"? Could you handle being truly free?


I'm not free IMO.

I'm not allowed to cuss on my ham radio, or walk around outside naked, or drive drunk, or not pay taxes and fees for everything.
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Apr 13, 2009 7:11 PM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
Jan1305
Jan1305Jan1305Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain170 Threads 5,319 Posts
RicoWest: I'm not free IMO.

I'm not allowed to cuss on my ham radio, or walk around outside naked, or drive drunk, or not pay taxes and fees for everything.


You and stessfree are the most honest people here.

handshake

Not my type though. rolling on the floor laughing
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Apr 13, 2009 11:35 PM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
RicoWest
RicoWestRicoWestlos angeles, California USA52 Threads 1 Polls 612 Posts
Jan1305: You and stessfree are the most honest people here.



Not my type though.


I tell the ugly truth... not pretty lies. cool
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Apr 13, 2009 11:58 PM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
I would hate it
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Apr 14, 2009 2:03 AM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
Scubadiva
ScubadivaScubadivaNew Jersey, USA106 Threads 11 Polls 2,689 Posts
The more ties, the more predictable, the more easily controlled and manipulated....typing nerd
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Apr 14, 2009 2:19 AM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts
I'm free to do what I want.Always have been, always will be.
At the moment I've given up some freedom to take care of mums for a while.
So if I have to choose between love an freedom I've made my choice.Freedom you can always fight for,you can't force love.
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Apr 14, 2009 2:23 AM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
Mercedes1
Mercedes1Mercedes1Sydney, New South Wales Australia101 Threads 1 Polls 3,764 Posts
I dont reckon freedom has anything to do with mortgages,money ect as I think of the peeps in Africa and Iraq ect and as far as Im concerned Im very freecheering
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Apr 14, 2009 2:26 AM CST Freedom - Could you handle it?
Shedman01
Shedman01Shedman01Gonzales, Texas USA16 Threads 2 Polls 1,029 Posts
rodolpho: I'm free to do what I want.Always have been, always will be.
At the moment I've given up some freedom to take care of mums for a while.
So if I have to choose between love an freedom I've made my choice.Freedom you can always fight for,you can't force love.

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