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May 20, 2009 11:09 AM CST Get some help.
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
venere08: I fully appreciate all that, Snuggs.

That's why I suggested you seek other help.

Good professional help, not just here on the forums, where we just sit around and offer our two cents worth, which then either menas you receive sympathy which might be what you partly seek, but don't need., or some very brief bit of serious advice/suggestion, which is way too brief to be of any real benefit.

Get some help, Snuggs, and I say that in the kindest possible way, given that you posted this so bravely, you obviously must be ready to expect all manner of comment.

Snuggs09: Secret to cyberspace. I just went through "help" about a month ago. It didn't work out. It's about the fourth time I've tried therapy.




I just read the above /\/\/\ in forums and was thinking 5 years back when my daughter who just graduated from a high school, with a full scholarship to a prestige university and a bright future ahead of her made a decision to give it all up and get married to a very first guy she ever dated. Knew him for only 2 months prior their engagement and for only 7 months before wedding.

It was a blow that totally destroyed me.

I did go to seek professional help - the top in mid-town Manhattan.

Did nothing to help me. At all. I gave up on these therapy sessions after a couple of months.

Does anybody ever had any success getting a this kind of professional help?

...I wonder?

Please share.
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May 20, 2009 1:17 PM CST Get some help.
Snuggs09
Snuggs09Snuggs09Somewhere, New Jersey USA128 Threads 1 Polls 2,615 Posts
Laura25: I just read the above /// in forums and was thinking 5 years back when my daughter who just graduated from a high school, with a full scholarship to a prestige university and a bright future ahead of her made a decision to give it all up and get married to a very first guy she ever dated. Knew him for only 2 months prior their engagement and for only 7 months before wedding.

It was a blow that totally destroyed me.

I did go to seek professional help - the top in mid-town Manhattan.

Did nothing to help me. At all. I gave up on these therapy sessions after a couple of months.

Does anybody ever had any success getting a this kind of professional help?

...I wonder?

Please share.


Just had a chance to check other threads Laura. My daughter had great success with a therapist. Funny thing, her problem was me. That's why she gets mad at me for not sticking with a therapist since she was so successful. My first therapy was when my husband died. At the same time I was dealing with an overbearing stepfather. I attended two sessions and that was enough...no help at all.

Years later I went to another therapist, again about my father and not being able to make friends easily. Went to about 3 or 4 sessions and that was enough.

One more went to a therapist couple years later about my life in general but mostly about my stepfather. That was a total waste of time.

About 5 or 6 weeks ago tried it again but this time with a male therapist. I was through the hospital which meant a plethora of paperwork. After 4 sessions the paperwork was finished and so was I.

So, therapy one on one is not for me. I might do well in group therapy, as I have done here today, but I think like Ambrose suggested, I am capable of doing it myself since I have conquered a few other things in my life.

But like I said, my daughter did very well with it. It probably worked for her because we are nothing alike when it comes to personalities.
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May 20, 2009 1:24 PM CST Get some help.
lonelygirl53
lonelygirl53lonelygirl53Ripley, West Virginia USA2 Threads 163 Posts
no therapists, counselors dont really help. they tell you things that you know anyway, things we just dont want to face. there is no compassion in the medical field just as there are no morals left in our sad world. be true to yourself dear, love yourself, thats what i am trying to do. God made us for a reason. i have no friends except for here on CS and i would take their advice anytime before i would pay three hundred dollars for a dr. or thereapist to just blow me off. have a wonderful day and keep those spirits up, you ,me and snuggs will be each others support group. my problems are depression, it sucks but nothing i can do to change it. i have been on meds since 1990 and i am not getting better. i have tried to get off of them but the withdrawals are just to bad. at this bad time in our economy we need to increase our faith in God. believe me, i got mad at him too a while back and had to apologize, he told me we are all human and that he loves us, your new friend at cs. pamhandshake teddybear
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May 20, 2009 2:00 PM CST Get some help.
I have not had the time or the gift of having friends or a healthy family to get me through the tough times.
I have seen a therapist. She was good for letting me know I had the tools to get through it alone.
Matter of fact, I then knew I will always pull through.
The one thing that was important to me was separating myself from my daughter.
It is her life, not mine. We want the best for our children and they know what is best for them. We have to stand aside and let them grow alone. We have raised them, prayed for them and set them free.
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May 20, 2009 2:20 PM CST Get some help.
pubwrite08
pubwrite08pubwrite08Columbus, Georgia USA14 Threads 2,451 Posts
I was attacked by an ex-boyfriend. Then he had nerve enough to move in with the lady across the street. Therapy helped me. Especially when he got out of prison.
Nobody understood why I did not want to talk to him or his new family. They were like he and I were so close before we split up. It was crazy, everybody felt sorry for him, and hated me. I sucked it up, but went to therapy, because. I was not afraid of him, and he spoke to me everytime he saw me. Like we were best of friends.
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May 20, 2009 3:05 PM CST Get some help.
Witchaywoman
WitchaywomanWitchaywomanCarpentersville, Illinois USA97 Threads 13 Polls 4,344 Posts
How did her wedding work out?
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May 20, 2009 3:06 PM CST Get some help.
morgan5
morgan5morgan5chelmsford, Essex, England UK87 Threads 8,237 Posts
Laura25: I just read the above /\/\/\ in forums and was thinking 5 years back when my daughter who just graduated from a high school, with a full scholarship to a prestige university and a bright future ahead of her made a decision to give it all up and get married to a very first guy she ever dated. Knew him for only 2 months prior their engagement and for only 7 months before wedding.

It was a blow that totally destroyed me.

I did go to seek professional help - the top in mid-town Manhattan.

Did nothing to help me. At all. I gave up on these therapy sessions after a couple of months.

Does anybody ever had any success getting a this kind of professional help?

...I wonder?

Please share.
Have to say i went for counselling after something had happened to me, found it useless it was my friends that got me thro wave
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May 20, 2009 3:14 PM CST Get some help.
pubwrite08
pubwrite08pubwrite08Columbus, Georgia USA14 Threads 2,451 Posts
They are still together in the same house. They fought about me alot. in public. It was weird, because I beat him down, and was ready to do it everytime he spoke to me. I could not get past the rage. Me I moved 3 weeks ago. Took me forever to get the kids out on their own, and get rid of that house but I did.
Witchaywoman: How did her wedding work out?
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May 20, 2009 3:53 PM CST Get some help.
hopefloats
hopefloatshopefloatsSlim's Lady, Tennessee USA51 Threads 6,660 Posts
I can honestly say I've been to USELESS "professionals" for help. But I have come across one or two USEFUL ones as well.


professor
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May 20, 2009 9:19 PM CST Get some help.
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
Thanks for sharing guys, I really appriciate it.

I read through all the replies and just as I thought - psychotherapy does not work. With very rare exceptions.

I am always puzzled when I hear people saying to each other things like: "get professional help".

I just do not see how is it any better than, for instance, forum "talk therapy" aka "our two cents". confused


dunno
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May 20, 2009 9:19 PM CST Get some help.
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
Snuggs09: Just had a chance to check other threads Laura. My daughter had great success with a therapist. Funny thing, her problem was me. That's why she gets mad at me for not sticking with a therapist since she was so successful. My first therapy was when my husband died. At the same time I was dealing with an overbearing stepfather. I attended two sessions and that was enough...no help at all.

Years later I went to another therapist, again about my father and not being able to make friends easily. Went to about 3 or 4 sessions and that was enough.

One more went to a therapist couple years later about my life in general but mostly about my stepfather. That was a total waste of time.

About 5 or 6 weeks ago tried it again but this time with a male therapist. I was through the hospital which meant a plethora of paperwork. After 4 sessions the paperwork was finished and so was I.

So, therapy one on one is not for me. I might do well in group therapy, as I have done here today, but I think like Ambrose suggested, I am capable of doing it myself since I have conquered a few other things in my life.

But like I said, my daughter did very well with it. It probably worked for her because we are nothing alike when it comes to personalities.



So my question to you, Snuggs, would be:
after so many unsuccessful personal experiences with therapists, already knowing that "professional help" is a myth, why whould you still try the same route?

Just trying to understand.
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May 20, 2009 9:30 PM CST Get some help.
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
Witchaywoman: How did her wedding work out?


Is it a question to me WW?

Wedding was OK, I guess, though in my state of mind back than I could not enjoy it. My daughter wanted a big wedding (close to 200 ppl) and I went along with her wishes. You know how it is - she is only child.
But I was a wreck and she knew it, obviously.

It's in the past. Over 5 years.
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May 20, 2009 9:32 PM CST Get some help.
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
lonelygirl53: no therapists, counselors dont really help. they tell you things that you know anyway, things we just dont want to face. there is no compassion in the medical field just as there are no morals left in our sad world. be true to yourself dear, love yourself, thats what i am trying to do. God made us for a reason. i have no friends except for here on CS and i would take their advice anytime before i would pay three hundred dollars for a dr. or thereapist to just blow me off. have a wonderful day and keep those spirits up, you ,me and snuggs will be each others support group. my problems are depression, it sucks but nothing i can do to change it. i have been on meds since 1990 and i am not getting better. i have tried to get off of them but the withdrawals are just to bad. at this bad time in our economy we need to increase our faith in God. believe me, i got mad at him too a while back and had to apologize, he told me we are all human and that he loves us, your new friend at cs. pam


Thank you Pam hug

teddybear
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May 21, 2009 8:00 AM CST Get some help.
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
pubwrite08: I was attacked by an ex-boyfriend. Then he had nerve enough to move in with the lady across the street. Therapy helped me. Especially when he got out of prison.
Nobody understood why I did not want to talk to him or his new family. They were like he and I were so close before we split up. It was crazy, everybody felt sorry for him, and hated me. I sucked it up, but went to therapy, because. I was not afraid of him, and he spoke to me everytime he saw me. Like we were best of friends.


pubwrite08: They are still together in the same house. They fought about me alot. in public. It was weird, because I beat him down, and was ready to do it everytime he spoke to me. I could not get past the rage. Me I moved 3 weeks ago. Took me forever to get the kids out on their own, and get rid of that house but I did.


'morning Pubwrite wave

You are this rare exception who found professional help... uhmmm... well, helpful in some ways.

If it's not too private of a matter - how long it took? how often you went to see your therapist? in what way it was helpful to you since you still it seems "ready to do it [beat him down]" every time he speaks to you? Not doubting your words a bit - trying to understand it for myself.
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May 21, 2009 8:06 AM CST Get some help.
hopefloats
hopefloatshopefloatsSlim's Lady, Tennessee USA51 Threads 6,660 Posts
Laura25: Thanks for sharing guys, I really appriciate it.

I read through all the replies and just as I thought - psychotherapy does not work. With very rare exceptions.

I am always puzzled when I hear people saying to each other things like: "get professional help".

I just do not see how is it any better than, for instance, forum "talk therapy" aka "our two cents".



Laura I believe we're working on the same puzzle together!wink

Who better to share their wisdom than someone who has walked in the same shoes........... lightbulb hmmm
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May 21, 2009 8:11 AM CST Get some help.
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
hopefloats: Laura I believe we're working on the same puzzle together!

Who better to share their wisdom than someone who has walked in the same shoes...........


thumbs up

Bravo Merky!
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May 21, 2009 8:15 AM CST Get some help.
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
Laura25:
Did nothing to help me. At all. I gave up on these therapy sessions after a couple of months.

Does anybody ever had any success getting a this kind of professional help?

...I wonder?

Please share.


You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make them drink.sigh
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May 21, 2009 8:17 AM CST Get some help.
hopefloats
hopefloatshopefloatsSlim's Lady, Tennessee USA51 Threads 6,660 Posts
HJFinAZ: You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make them drink.



So true Pat, so true!thumbs up
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May 21, 2009 8:20 AM CST Get some help.
Charli15695
Charli15695Charli15695Dallas, Texas USA22 Threads 1,223 Posts
The best therapy I have ever received was thru a 12 step program....there are many different out there for drinking, smoking, drugs. over eating, etc. The key is working the program - You have to want it, to make a difference in your life - many people need the program, only a few want it - it's amazing what you can do when you admit that you have a problem and seek the help that is available.
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May 21, 2009 8:22 AM CST Get some help.
hopefloats
hopefloatshopefloatsSlim's Lady, Tennessee USA51 Threads 6,660 Posts
Charli15695: The best therapy I have ever received was thru a 12 step program....there are many different out there for drinking, smoking, drugs. over eating, etc. The key is working the program - You have to want it, to make a difference in your life - many people need the program, only a few want it - it's amazing what you can do when you admit that you have a problem and seek the help that is available.



It sure is. And one that many don't want!doh
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