Xrebel what are your reasons for dismissing women? I think you owe us a detailed explanation, cause it's a pretty strong point you are making. You will have to stop generalizing i think.
Emotional is never a bad thing. As you seem to think.
Being in control of one's emotions is actually powerful.
I display emotion in everything in I write.
But not how you see it, I don't throw things at my pc because you are being a jerk, with your thread title, I don't scream and come in defend your very weak argument, I look that at this thread and this.
You know what you are doing when post stuff like this, you know exactly what you are doing. You know that members here will come in and post defending what you have started.
What could have been a good debate and discussion, which you are unable to do, has been trashed a little by people who cannot believe what you have written.
The art of holding down a good discussion Reb, is that controversial and explosive topics are designed to grip the audience and from that comes reasoned and balanced debate. You have gripped your audience in the wrong way. Because you will not attract or invite any poster who wants to deliver a seaonsoned, balanced debate.
You started a mess, you have a mess on your hands and you will walk away leaving a trail of broken glass. Which you will be happy with.
If you want to discuss topics such as yours, you should know by now that here is not going to benefit you. I think you do know.
Your argument and evidence is weak, it is like saying Yugoslavia fell apart and expecting people to have a discussion around that.
And I can guarantee that you will come back and write that I am being emotional and my picture sucks. Emotions are powerful. I am used to debating, public speaking and holding my own. When you are up against me, give me some facts, evidence not just a guy who wants to piss off women.
Now, you have still not explained how women will always be inferior to men.
CaptainBeirutIIILondon, Greater London, England UK1,186 posts
X_REBEL: Just as i thought...you're emotions got the better of you...your insults according to psychology are indicative that you cannot bear/handle the truth and as for me i'm not here to please anyone, but to carry the flame of truth into the darkness...
Nah, man, you can get as poetic as you like about it, but it's not a flame of truth you're carrying, it's more like a grown man with a magnifying glass molesting ant hills, we both know you're only on a wind-up mission.
I'm just wondering if some men are even capable of touching or making love to women with their really degrading attitude, without causing some sort of physical harm to these women.
I am not the one in here, trying to 'prove' that women are powerful.
I don't have to. Women are powerful, it is simple.
You would not begin debates such as this if you did not believe that to be the case.
Did you hit a nerve? You seriously think I am going to answer suck a jerk off question? Stupidity is something where my toleration threshold hits the floor.
How could you have guided this discussion to a better place?
I mark and advise on research papers. You have just shown me that my students are brilliant.
X_REBELOPNorth Shore, Auckland New Zealand921 posts
Sparky55: On average and in terms of physical strength, speed and the abilty to enact violence on others I would have to say you're right, women can't compete with men.
However, in terms of brains and common sense they are on the average equal if not better than men. They certainly think things out better than we do. I mention thinking things out only because of the example you provided. Rationally speaking, it wasn't very smart risking the alienation of most if not all the women on this site by calling them inferior and then failing to make a rational arguement for your position. The only thing gained by this behavior is an enhance capability to strike out should you ever become attracted to anyone reading your post(s). That's not too bright and certainly not well thought out unless that was your intent. Who knows, perhaps it was. In any case, I here there are some really cute kangaroos and wallabees for dating/mating purposes in New Zealand just in case you don'tfind love here.
Seriously, if your arguement is that they haven't accomplished as much as men in past history then that's probably because we didn't allow them to. That ofcourse has changed for most in the western world.
...as for women in terms of brains and common sense...i have to disagree...as woman are more emotional by nature they reason and think with less logic than men...making women bad decision makers under stress. As for changes amongst western women you're correct, as the women from the East still know their place in society...and respect the men's position in society...
CaptainBeirutIIILondon, Greater London, England UK1,186 posts
X_REBEL: Just as i thought...you're emotions got the better of you...your insults according to psychology are indicative that you cannot bear/handle the truth and as for me i'm not here to please anyone, but to carry the flame of truth into the darkness...
Nah, man, you can get as poetic as you like about it, but it's not a flame of truth you're carrying, it's more like a grown man with a magnifying glass molesting ant hills, we both know you're only on a wind-up mission.
I think in a lot of ways women do seem inferior to men but it's just because of the rolls that society casts us in. Ie, women generally watch to much operah and the like while the men are out the back fixing stuff and moving mountains etc but it has been proven time and time again that women can do anything men can do and often better. eg, the queen of england- a woman. Margaret Thatcher ? Kevin Rudds wife? (Mrs Rudd) The head of the dept. of Biology at the university where I studied and half the doctors and professors that worked there were women. Women in my trade, carpenters, plumbers, electricians etc. Truck drivers, bus drivers, machinery operators. Hey, they built most of the machinery that fought the last war. List goes on. Yeah, this guy is just a provacoteur. Go home people. Nothing to see here.
X_REBEL: ...as for women in terms of brains and common sense...i have to disagree...as woman are more emotional by nature they reason and think with less logic than men...making women bad decision makers under stress. As for changes amongst western women you're correct, as the women from the East still know their place in society...and respect the men's position in society...
Well we can agree to disagree on the first half.
Do you really believe that the women of the East know their place and that's where they need to stay or are you just trying to get people pissed off at you? Frankly, I think it's sad that women are treated like that but perhaps that's just me.
X_REBELOPNorth Shore, Auckland New Zealand921 posts
druidess6308: By the way, since you wish to make religion relevant to your point, I will point out that women have only been perceived as inferior to men during the 2000 year reign of Christianity ruling most of the world. Now that it's losing its influence, and more people are stepping away from this overbearingly offensive, subjugating religion, this point of view is also changing and women are able to achieve the things we've always been capable of achieving, now that we're not being subjected to this old-fashioned way of thinking any more.
Notice the correlation here? I do.
Yes women have become better and so have men...the gap will always remain...
X_REBEL: ...as for women in terms of brains and common sense...i have to disagree...as woman are more emotional by nature they reason and think with less logic than men...making women bad decision makers under stress. As for changes amongst western women you're correct, as the women from the East still know their place in society...and respect the men's position in society...
I disagree with you. Women are more logical than men. We take longer to get to the solution, thinking longer about problems and how to tackle them. Men want quick fire solutions, displaying logic but their logic is shorter than a woman's.
Look at the results from insurance companies. Women claim more on their car insurance, in the percentile of results collected, for smaller prangs. Men claim less but usually much larger claims than women in monetary terms, because they become angrier quicker, therefore having large smash ups. Why is women's car insurance cheaper than mens?
X_REBELOPNorth Shore, Auckland New Zealand921 posts
BrunoMcMahon: Your arguments are about as sound as those of a certain troll who claims to be from Denmark. Attitude and behavior of both of you seems quite inferior when compared to the standards my father gave me.
"one cannot expect the truth for a lie" Is this a confession or were you perhaps searching for the word "accept"?
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Don't know T&T that well but almost went to a friends place in Charlottesville Tobago a few years back. Sounded like nice people there.