I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist? (933)
FallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 PostsArlene101: This thread is still worthless and so many posts.
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Hey, Ambrose: you are back. I thought you might have eloped.
Are you back? Do you really exist?
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Galactic_bodhi: This is a great piece of blathering sophistry. It's like asking for proof the sun exists. And then denying the proof of your ability to see.
Nice thread. It has as much substance as any other virtual argument, meaning zero to none.
Argument from ignorance is not a valid form of reducto ad absurdum, which this thread is attempting, but failing miserably at.
It's like asking someone to build an ark, and then giving them Peter Pan tools to do it with.
I have no need to prove my existence to you, as your opinion, or beliefs, have no impact on my world whatsoever. Go ahead and deny the existence of athiests if you wish. I've dealt with flat-earthers too.
Nice thread. It has as much substance as any other virtual argument, meaning zero to none.
Argument from ignorance is not a valid form of reducto ad absurdum, which this thread is attempting, but failing miserably at.
It's like asking someone to build an ark, and then giving them Peter Pan tools to do it with.
I have no need to prove my existence to you, as your opinion, or beliefs, have no impact on my world whatsoever. Go ahead and deny the existence of athiests if you wish. I've dealt with flat-earthers too.
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Arlene101: Hey, Ambrose: you are back. I thought you might have eloped. Are you back? Do you really exist?
At the moment, I'm scarcely sure I believe in myself, Arlene!
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Ambrose2007: At the moment, I'm scarcely sure I believe in myself, Arlene!
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religion was created by mankind to explain the things that we couldnt. Therefore ...WE created god.... he is a figment of our imagination.
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Ambrose2007: I think therefore I am.
At the moment I don't think I've ever seen a more idiotic thread premise. Worthy of Youtube's Jesusophile...
At the moment I don't think I've ever seen a more idiotic thread premise. Worthy of Youtube's Jesusophile...
Why is it idiotic to ask you to apply the standard of proof, you use to prove something exists, to yourself, and use it to prove the existence of "atheists," to me?
Why is this position more idiotic, when you're on the other side of it? its your position.
I asked you to provide your own standard.
Are you using a double standard?
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campingiscool: religion was created by mankind to explain the things that we couldnt. Therefore ...WE created god.... he is a figment of our imagination.
of course....but isn't that obvious? 
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Fallingman: of course....but isn't that obvious?
It is obvious that "atheists" is a man made term to describe something he doesn't understand, and "atheists" are no more tangible than God.
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anonymous1: It is obvious that "atheists" is a man made term to describe something he doesn't understand, and "atheists" are no more tangible than God.
Nope Atheists are people who believe there is no God....you believe there are no Atheists....so you are all in the same camp. Enjoy
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Fallingman: Nope Atheists are people who believe there is no God....you believe there are no Atheists....so you are all in the same camp. Enjoy
You are right about us being in the same camp.
An "atheists" existence, is as intangible, and hard to prove as God's existence; when you use the impossible standard of proof created by people who claim to be "atheists."
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anonymous1: You are right about us being in the same camp.An "atheists" existence, is as intangible, and hard to prove as God's existence; when you use the impossible standard of proof created by people who claim to be "atheists."
Afraid not....most atheists are pretty tangible...God, sadly, is a myth.
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Fallingman: Afraid not....most atheists are pretty tangible...God, sadly, is a myth.
Lots of people claim to be God.
Lot's of people claim to be "atheists."
So, until I see proof, I won't believe either one.
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Trealach: Afraid not....most atheists are pretty tangible...quote]PROOF AT LAST!!!! maybe we can all go to bed and let this idiotic thread die. Or do we now need to prove an IDIOT started it!!
What are you saying is proof?
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trish123: Ive been waiting for a version of this line of argument to come up, Ive seen it in many forms and have a great answer......
My daughter lay dying in intensive care and I didnt once pray to any of your gods, does that make it my fault that my daughter actually died? Was I being punished by the death of my daughter for not believing and daring to speak aloud about this? If so, you can keep the vindictive (supposed) entity cos I want no part of it........
My daughter lay dying in intensive care and I didnt once pray to any of your gods, does that make it my fault that my daughter actually died? Was I being punished by the death of my daughter for not believing and daring to speak aloud about this? If so, you can keep the vindictive (supposed) entity cos I want no part of it........
Have you seen Dr. Emoto's rice intention experiments?
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anonymous1: I don't believe 'atheists" exist, can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
Using the same standards of proof commonly accepted to deny the existence of God, can somebody prove "atheists" exist?
It wouuld be nice if the person attempting to do so, would refrain from using the words, faith, and/or belief; or forms of it.
Supposedly science, and reason are on the side of the mythological "atheists."
And, Christians only have faith, and belief.
So, please don't ask me to accept your belief, and faith as proof "atheists" exist; use science, facts, and reason.
Using the same standards of proof commonly accepted to deny the existence of God, can somebody prove "atheists" exist?
It wouuld be nice if the person attempting to do so, would refrain from using the words, faith, and/or belief; or forms of it.
Supposedly science, and reason are on the side of the mythological "atheists."
And, Christians only have faith, and belief.
So, please don't ask me to accept your belief, and faith as proof "atheists" exist; use science, facts, and reason.
You do this a lot, don't you? You just like to argue. It is pointless. Athiest just means that one does not conform to christian belief or peagan belief. Some times it means they belive in a "higher power" which could mean a greater power in one's own self. To each athiest, it means something different. No one here want's to conform you.
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OneKitty: You do this a lot, don't you? You just like to argue. It is pointless. Athiest just means that one does not conform to christian belief or peagan belief. Some times it means they belive in a "higher power" which could mean a greater power in one's own self. To each athiest, it means something different. No one here want's to conform you.
So you disagree with Fallingman?
Similarly you can't prove that atheists either exist or don't. quote]
Nobody asked you to conform to me.
I did ask that you apply your standard of proof, to your beliefs; and discuss them.
If you are unable to do that, why argue about it?
If "atheist" means something to each person that means it is a stipulated definition.
Not only is it impossible to prove "atheists" exist, even the definition is illusive.
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Fallingman: Isn't the point that atheists don't believe unless you can show them proof....so they don't PROVE God doesn't exist....they just show that YOU can't prove it. Similarly you can't prove that atheists either exist or don't. Where do you guys come from....do they not teach anything in school these days?
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morgan5: Hi FM, that was my understanding as well
And, that's all I have been saying too.
The existence of "atheists," is as intangible as the existence of God.
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