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Jun 29, 2009 10:30 PM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
Arlene101
Arlene101Arlene101Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia Canada9 Threads 3,320 Posts
anonymous1: You're attempts to discredit me, instead of addressing the topic are noted.

OBTW, you may not like me coming here, but others do.

And, I'm not the only one who say's, YOU cannot prove "atheists," exist.

Do you have any proof "atheists" exist?

Or, are WE right?
You must be an absolute delight to have around. You said you have a wife so go talk to her ikf she hasn't tuned you out already.
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Jun 29, 2009 10:53 PM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
anonymous1
anonymous1anonymous1Hawaii, USA10 Threads 1 Polls 1,649 Posts
Arlene101: Please give it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't like to swear but FFS give it up. but no you won't will you. How about another topic?


Arlene101: You must be an absolute delight to have around. You said you have a wife so go talk to her ikf she hasn't tuned you out already.




Actually, I never said I had a wife.

I said, I'm not single; and, I don't want a relationship with a woman.

(I'm in love with a woman on another site, who lives thousands of miles away from me, and she's at work; she'll call me when she gets home.)

I also said, I am here for the forums.

I have met people here already, who agree with me, and like that I'm here.

I like this topic.

And, others like this topic.

Why do you feel the need to force us to say what you want, and post where you say?
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Jun 29, 2009 10:59 PM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
CaySea
CaySeaCaySeaFollow the yellow brick road, Western Australia Australia15 Threads 923 Posts
anonymous1: I don't believe anybody exists who does not truly believe in God, no matter what they say.
As the saying goes, There are no "atheists" in foxholes.

I am only asking for proof they really don't believe, something substantial.

I can't just change my mind without a reason, and the reason has to be greater than the fact someone say's so.


So you say they dont exist because they dont believe in god and you wont change you mind on this even if they say so. Why should they believe in a god just because someone once said one exists?

Basically no matter what anyone says you aint going to listen to them is coming across there. There is no way to prove someones beliefs other to ask them. Maybe connect them to a lie detector.
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Jun 29, 2009 11:18 PM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
anonymous1
anonymous1anonymous1Hawaii, USA10 Threads 1 Polls 1,649 Posts
CaySea: So you say they dont exist because they dont believe in god and you wont change you mind on this even if they say so. Why should they believe in a god just because someone once said one exists?

Basically no matter what anyone says you aint going to listen to them is coming across there. There is no way to prove someones beliefs other to ask them. Maybe connect them to a lie detector.



Where did I say this...?


"they dont exist because they dont believe in god..."
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Jun 29, 2009 11:31 PM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
handymanrichie
handymanrichiehandymanrichielexington, Kentucky USA51 Posts
anonymous1: That is an, OUTRAGEOUS CLAIM!!!Do you have any proof "atheists" exist?


It's the truth my friend, like it or not you're argument doesn't hold any sand, sorry. Atheist exist because of their lack of belief in a God, because that is the little we gave to people like that. Atheist don't have to prove anything because they have the upper hand, and there really is no proof of a God. Since religion is the ones who are making the claim, it is up to them to prove it if they want to convince someone who is an Atheist. Stop and think about it for a minute before you embarrass yourself any further with this nonsense. Start thinking about ways you can prove God exists, and start a thread about that. If you want to convince someone of a God, start with energy. Energy does not think on it own unless it is manipulated to do something specific, like we do with electricity. With that being said the universe shows the same patterns no matter how far apart they are. The universe would be chaotic if there were no unknown force manipulating that energy to do specific things. That unknown force could be defined as God, so start there.wave
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Jun 29, 2009 11:38 PM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
CaySea
CaySeaCaySeaFollow the yellow brick road, Western Australia Australia15 Threads 923 Posts
anonymous1: Where did I say this...?"they dont exist because they dont believe in god..."


So what you are trying to say is they only exist because god exists? And if god doesnt exist then they cant either?
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Jun 30, 2009 12:06 AM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
anonymous1
anonymous1anonymous1Hawaii, USA10 Threads 1 Polls 1,649 Posts
handymanrichie: It's the truth my friend, like it or not you're argument doesn't hold any sand, sorry. Atheist exist because of their lack of belief in a God, because that is the little we gave to people like that. Atheist don't have to prove anything because they have the upper hand, and there really is no proof of a God. Since religion is the ones who are making the claim, it is up to them to prove it if they want to convince someone who is an Atheist. Stop and think about it for a minute before you embarrass yourself any further with this nonsense. Start thinking about ways you can prove God exists, and start a thread about that. If you want to convince someone of a God, start with energy. Energy does not think on it own unless it is manipulated to do something specific, like we do with electricity. With that being said the universe shows the same patterns no matter how far apart they are. The universe would be chaotic if there were no unknown force manipulating that energy to do specific things. That unknown force could be defined as God, so start there.





Where did I try to convince anybody there is a God?

Where did I make any claims about the existence of God?

I didn't make any.

I said you can't prove "atheists" exist.

You claimed they do, but you can't prove it.

You know you can't, so you're trying to change the subject; and give me a strawman.
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Jun 30, 2009 12:08 AM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
anonymous1
anonymous1anonymous1Hawaii, USA10 Threads 1 Polls 1,649 Posts
CaySea: So what you are trying to say is they only exist because god exists? And if god doesnt exist then they cant either?




I never said anything like that either.
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Jun 30, 2009 12:14 AM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
CaySea
CaySeaCaySeaFollow the yellow brick road, Western Australia Australia15 Threads 923 Posts
So what would you consider a stardard of proof?
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Jun 30, 2009 12:35 AM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
handymanrichie
handymanrichiehandymanrichielexington, Kentucky USA51 Posts
anonymous1: Where did I try to convince anybody there is a God?

Where did I make any claims about the existence of God?

I didn't make any.

I said you can't prove "atheists" exist.

You claimed they do, but you can't prove it.

You know you can't, so you're trying to change the subject; and give me a strawman.


What are you talking about? Get on youtube and took up a show called the Atheist Experience, and you will see some full blown Atheists. If that isn't enough, and you can't believe your eyes, then hop on a plain to Texas, and I'm sure they will let you pinch them to make sure they are real.

Your argument is the same thing as asking someone how do you know we live on Earth and not Mars. Thats because we chose to call this thing, this planet we live on Earth and the other one Mars. If some one has a lack of a belief in a God we call them Atheists. That is the title we use to call that group. There are people in that group, so they are Atheists. How much more proof do you need then that. I keep repeating the same thing in different ways, but you just are ignoring it. You are arguing in a circle, here is your proof, so end the thread.
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Jun 30, 2009 1:15 AM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
anonymous1
anonymous1anonymous1Hawaii, USA10 Threads 1 Polls 1,649 Posts
handymanrichie: What are you talking about? Get on youtube and took up a show called the Atheist Experience, and you will see some full blown Atheists. If that isn't enough, and you can't believe your eyes, then hop on a plain to Texas, and I'm sure they will let you pinch them to make sure they are real.

Your argument is the same thing as asking someone how do you know we live on Earth and not Mars. Thats because we chose to call this thing, this planet we live on Earth and the other one Mars. If some one has a lack of a belief in a God we call them Atheists. That is the title we use to call that group. There are people in that group, so they are Atheists. How much more proof do you need then that. I keep repeating the same thing in different ways, but you just are ignoring it. You are arguing in a circle, here is your proof, so end the thread.




In my life, have found people who claim to be.....
The Easter Bunny, Snow White, Jesus, Christians, God, and "atheists," I can't believe any of them without proof.
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Jun 30, 2009 1:17 AM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
anonymous1
anonymous1anonymous1Hawaii, USA10 Threads 1 Polls 1,649 Posts
anonymous1: In my life, have found people who claim to be.....
The Easter Bunny, Snow White, Jesus, Christians, God, and "atheists," I can't believe any of them without proof.




I have also met people who thought they were right, when they were wrong; can you prove you're right?
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Jun 30, 2009 1:22 AM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
galaxy15
galaxy15galaxy15melbourne, Victoria Australia3 Threads 480 Posts
Conrad73: Since you started it,What can you prove?


Since you are asking Conrad - what can anyone 'prove'?
anonymous1, doesn't seem to me to be coming from any particular direction - 'religious' or 'scientific'. It is a question I have asked of some of the sub geniuses on these forums - and I never got an answer. Question I posed was - 'Prove to me that you exist'.
All I got was stupid emots and jeers from the 'crowd'. Oh yeah, and meaningless 'original' links to someone you all agree with. These are not facts.
The science thing involutes upon itself very quickly, as it too is merely belief of the 'facts' of the time.
cheers
galaxy
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Jun 30, 2009 1:32 AM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
anonymous1
anonymous1anonymous1Hawaii, USA10 Threads 1 Polls 1,649 Posts
galaxy15: Since you are asking Conrad - what can anyone 'prove'?
anonymous1, doesn't seem to me to be coming from any particular direction - 'religious' or 'scientific'. It is a question I have asked of some of the sub geniuses on these forums - and I never got an answer. Question I posed was - 'Prove to me that you exist'.
All I got was stupid emots and jeers from the 'crowd'. Oh yeah, and meaningless 'original' links to someone you all agree with. These are not facts.
The science thing involutes upon itself very quickly, as it too is merely belief of the 'facts' of the time.
cheers
galaxy



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Jun 30, 2009 1:44 AM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
anonymous1
anonymous1anonymous1Hawaii, USA10 Threads 1 Polls 1,649 Posts
CaySea: So what would you consider a stardard of proof?




I am allowing you to set your own standard.


The standard of proof you use, or would accept, to deny, or prove the existence of God.
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Jun 30, 2009 1:46 AM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
galaxy15: Since you are asking Conrad - what can anyone 'prove'?
anonymous1, doesn't seem to me to be coming from any particular direction - 'religious' or 'scientific'. It is a question I have asked of some of the sub geniuses on these forums - and I never got an answer. Question I posed was - 'Prove to me that you exist'.
All I got was stupid emots and jeers from the 'crowd'. Oh yeah, and meaningless 'original' links to someone you all agree with. These are not facts.
The science thing involutes upon itself very quickly, as it too is merely belief of the 'facts' of the time.
cheers
galaxy
Another Non-Existent One!
They're growing y'all now?
Something in the Pacific Water?rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 30, 2009 1:47 AM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
CaySea
CaySeaCaySeaFollow the yellow brick road, Western Australia Australia15 Threads 923 Posts
anonymous1: I am allowing you to set your own standard.The standard of proof you use, or would accept, to deny, or prove the existence of God.


Well thats simple. I would connect an atheist to a lie detector. Ask them a number of questions concerning divinity and deities. I am sure I would find a few that claim to be atheist but prove not to be. But under the wide ranging definition of atheist I am sure you would find some that most certainly are.
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Jun 30, 2009 1:53 AM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
Raven0
Raven0Raven0Right here, Alberta Canada28 Threads 3,454 Posts
CaySea: Well science does not prove anything. It disproves till the theories can no longer be disproven by any amount of speculation and testing.

Ah, so you say, unless nothing exists. Then you can't disprove that you aren't really there, or even prove that either.
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Jun 30, 2009 1:57 AM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
CaySea
CaySeaCaySeaFollow the yellow brick road, Western Australia Australia15 Threads 923 Posts
Proof is in the eye of the beholder sigh
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Jun 30, 2009 1:58 AM CST I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
Raven0
Raven0Raven0Right here, Alberta Canada28 Threads 3,454 Posts
CaySea: Proof is in the eye of the beholder

Have a twizzler
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