I don't believe in "atheists," can anybody prove "atheists" exist? (933)
anonymous1: I see people who claim to be "atheist" saying they have made their decision based on science, and reason; but when I look for the science, and reason.... "atheist" is just a word... there is only belief...Since "atheisim" is supposed to be based on science, and reason, the existence of "atheists" should be provable with them.Yet nothing has been offered to seperate the belief of theisim, or "atheisim" from eachother, except an opinion which is unprovable.I hear only a word; and, see nobody with a reason I should believe in "atheists" other than faith.Since I see no reason given other than, "I should just take your word for it", I don't believe "atheists" exist.
I understand. You cleverly positioned yourself there buddy
In any case, I have never seen or felt God. That is the best evidence I can give you.
I do believe that there are some things we do not yet understand about how energy works. In my view, it's just a natural cosmic process, not God. I don't equate nature and energy with God. We have the need to label things and mysteries as God in some capacity. I believe once we have a better understanding of the cosmos, this God concept will slowly change with it to possibly the point that we are God's in a sense. We create and control our destiny, nobody or nothing else.
Here is a couple of short videos of the unknown in regards to energy, matter, and how we (consciousness) affect it (observer affect, double slit experiment). In my view, it's just a natural process with unknown physical properties in which we are slowly understanding, not God.
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Magenta:
I think perhaps we should all leave anon to talk 2 himself in rhetorical circles of theological mess
I think perhaps we should all leave anon to talk 2 himself in rhetorical circles of theological mess
amen
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I can't believe this is still running......was that Freudian?
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Fallingman: I can't believe this is still running......was that Freudian?
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Magenta: We have a right to have a philosophical discussion. May i give u a hand down of that high horse?
You also have the right to return with many different names but that doesn't make you Jesus.
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anonymous1: No! Look again.
I'm asking for proof that "atheists," are any more real than him.
I'm asking for proof that "atheists," are any more real than him.
Anonymous:
In fact I can surmise the core of your point. Nobody is an atheist because atheism is a faith in itself. Faith in hte non-existence of something, is it right?
I will have to re-read and re-think about certain things to formulate my ideas in a better way as I am not sure if you can keep faith on the non-existence of something.
Or is your point more in the sense of Voltaire for example?
Well, I hope you could develop your points better and tell us exactly why atheists do not exist.
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anonymous1: I don't believe 'atheists" exist, can anybody prove "atheists" exist?
Using the same standards of proof commonly accepted to deny the existence of God, can somebody prove "atheists" exist?
It wouuld be nice if the person attempting to do so, would refrain from using the words, faith, and/or belief; or forms of it.
Supposedly science, and reason are on the side of the mythological "atheists."
And, Christians only have faith, and belief.
So, please don't ask me to accept your belief, and faith as proof "atheists" exist; use science, facts, and reason.
U dont blieve? than u r absloutly rightUsing the same standards of proof commonly accepted to deny the existence of God, can somebody prove "atheists" exist?
It wouuld be nice if the person attempting to do so, would refrain from using the words, faith, and/or belief; or forms of it.
Supposedly science, and reason are on the side of the mythological "atheists."
And, Christians only have faith, and belief.
So, please don't ask me to accept your belief, and faith as proof "atheists" exist; use science, facts, and reason.
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Antjo39: Anonymous:
In fact I can surmise the core of your point. Nobody is an atheist because atheism is a faith in itself. Faith in hte non-existence of something, is it right?
I will have to re-read and re-think about certain things to formulate my ideas in a better way as I am not sure if you can keep faith on the non-existence of something.
Or is your point more in the sense of Voltaire for example?
Well, I hope you could develop your points better and tell us exactly why atheists do not exist.
In fact I can surmise the core of your point. Nobody is an atheist because atheism is a faith in itself. Faith in hte non-existence of something, is it right?
I will have to re-read and re-think about certain things to formulate my ideas in a better way as I am not sure if you can keep faith on the non-existence of something.
Or is your point more in the sense of Voltaire for example?
Well, I hope you could develop your points better and tell us exactly why atheists do not exist.
I'm sorry my point isn't thought out pefectly clear.
Thank you for participating in this thread., because it is helping me think it through.
I have had this conversation in my mind, but I wanted to subject it to other people and see who it worked out.
Other people have not thought through their position very well either, and they need to change the topic, because they cannot deal with it.
My dad taught at philosophy at USC; he claimed to be an "atheist."
It took the cancer 7 months of agony to kill him, but he died wanting Jesus; terrified of his dreams of going down a tunnel, with no light at the end.
I just turned his argument around, and remember how it ended for him; some of his last words were; "I just want to be a Christian," and, "I always believed," "I always knew."
I would like to thank you for trying to stay on topic, and taking it serious.
For the people who cannot prove "atheists" exist, and want to change the subject...
I'm not here to convince anybody, about God, or The Bible, or prove anything.
The topic, is the topic.
If you can't deal with it, don't try to confuse it because your beliefs do not stand up to it.
Just don't post.
I don't care if you leave me alone forever, just don't waste our time, please leave the space for somebody else who wants to think about it.
Your continued efforts to change the topic with stero-types, do not show tolerance.
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anonymous1: I'm sorry my point isn't thought out pefectly clear.
Thank you for participating in this thread., because it is helping me think it through.
I have had this conversation in my mind, but I wanted to subject it to other people and see who it worked out.
Other people have not thought through their position very well either, and they need to change the topic, because they cannot deal with it.
My dad taught at philosophy at USC; he claimed to be an "atheist."
It took the cancer 7 months of agony to kill him, but he died wanting Jesus; terrified of his dreams of going down a tunnel, with no light at the end.
I just turned his argument around, and remember how it ended for him; some of his last words were; "I just want to be a Christian," and, "I always believed," "I always knew."
I would like to thank you for trying to stay on topic, and taking it serious.For the people who cannot prove "atheists" exist, and want to change the subject...I'm not here to convince anybody, about God, or The Bible, or prove anything.The topic, is the topic.
If you can't deal with it, don't try to confuse it because your beliefs do not stand up to it.
Just don't post.
I don't care if you leave me alone forever, just don't waste our time, please leave the space for somebody else who wants to think about it.
Your continued efforts to change the topic with stero-types, do not show tolerance.
Thank you for participating in this thread., because it is helping me think it through.
I have had this conversation in my mind, but I wanted to subject it to other people and see who it worked out.
Other people have not thought through their position very well either, and they need to change the topic, because they cannot deal with it.
My dad taught at philosophy at USC; he claimed to be an "atheist."
It took the cancer 7 months of agony to kill him, but he died wanting Jesus; terrified of his dreams of going down a tunnel, with no light at the end.
I just turned his argument around, and remember how it ended for him; some of his last words were; "I just want to be a Christian," and, "I always believed," "I always knew."
I would like to thank you for trying to stay on topic, and taking it serious.For the people who cannot prove "atheists" exist, and want to change the subject...I'm not here to convince anybody, about God, or The Bible, or prove anything.The topic, is the topic.
If you can't deal with it, don't try to confuse it because your beliefs do not stand up to it.
Just don't post.
I don't care if you leave me alone forever, just don't waste our time, please leave the space for somebody else who wants to think about it.
Your continued efforts to change the topic with stero-types, do not show tolerance.
Your apparent arrogance knows no bounds.
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anonymous1: You win the prize for the longest post, without any attempt to deal with the topic.
Thank you very much - sad that you seem to have had a sense of humour bypass though, that reply was a joke, perhaps you would care to respond to the comment below which is in my own words - on second thoughts just can it - your opinion is no more valid than those of any of the rest of us, yes, even myself......
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Sommerauer71: Only another 17 pages to go... I have found it quite interesting, given that I am agnostic....
Ditto
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Antjo39: Anonymous:
In fact I can surmise the core of your point. Nobody is an atheist because atheism is a faith in itself. Faith in hte non-existence of something, is it right?
I will have to re-read and re-think about certain things to formulate my ideas in a better way as I am not sure if you can keep faith on the non-existence of something.
Or is your point more in the sense of Voltaire for example?
Well, I hope you could develop your points better and tell us exactly why atheists do not exist.
In fact I can surmise the core of your point. Nobody is an atheist because atheism is a faith in itself. Faith in hte non-existence of something, is it right?
I will have to re-read and re-think about certain things to formulate my ideas in a better way as I am not sure if you can keep faith on the non-existence of something.
Or is your point more in the sense of Voltaire for example?
Well, I hope you could develop your points better and tell us exactly why atheists do not exist.
I have been trying to show similar points a few times. Guess they get lost in the noise. Or I havent made myself clear
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Sommerauer71: Only another 17 pages to go... I have found it quite interesting, given that I am agnostic....
I share your view but the argument seems stalled for a few dozen pages now! 
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To Anon. Thankyou for your latest insights and sorry for your loss.
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StressFree: I understand. You cleverly positioned yourself there buddy
In any case, I have never seen or felt God. That is the best evidence I can give you.
I do believe that there are some things we do not yet understand about how energy works. In my view, it's just a natural cosmic process, not God. I don't equate nature and energy with God. We have the need to label things and mysteries as God in some capacity. I believe once we have a better understanding of the cosmos, this God concept will slowly change with it to possibly the point that we are God's in a sense. We create and control our destiny, nobody or nothing else.
Here is a couple of short videos of the unknown in regards to energy, matter, and how we (consciousness) affect it (observer affect, double slit experiment). In my view, it's just a natural process with unknown physical properties in which we are slowly understanding, not God.
In any case, I have never seen or felt God. That is the best evidence I can give you.
I do believe that there are some things we do not yet understand about how energy works. In my view, it's just a natural cosmic process, not God. I don't equate nature and energy with God. We have the need to label things and mysteries as God in some capacity. I believe once we have a better understanding of the cosmos, this God concept will slowly change with it to possibly the point that we are God's in a sense. We create and control our destiny, nobody or nothing else.
Here is a couple of short videos of the unknown in regards to energy, matter, and how we (consciousness) affect it (observer affect, double slit experiment). In my view, it's just a natural process with unknown physical properties in which we are slowly understanding, not God.
I'll check those out, I already have the double slit experiment on my playlist.
Thanks, here's some more like those.
The Large Hadron Rap
Holographic Universe ( Part 1 0f 2 ) its all illusion
Holographic Universe ( Part 2 0f 2 ) its all illusion
Reality of Sensory World (PART 2 of 3)
Reality of Sensory World (PART 3 of 3)
The Space Between Atoms
Matter Does Not Exist
E=mc²: Einstein explains his famous formula.
The Infamous Double Slit Experiment, (WORTH MENTIONING AGAIN)
One Minute Lesson in Quantum Physics
Quantum Mechanics The Uncertainty Principle Light Particle's
Single photons are the smallest quantities of light and, despite having no mass, have many properties in common with particles. In fact, physicists often think of photons as particles -- particles that sometimes behave like waves. Physicists sometimes describe all particles as waves -- even those with mass, such as electrons and protons -- in order to better understand certain aspects of their behavior.
Positive & Negative Energy Effects on Water Crystals
Intention Experiment with Rice.
Can Intention Change the World?
THE PEACE INTENTION EXPERIMENT
The Extended Mind: Recent Experimental Evidence
We have been brought up to believe that the mind is located inside the head. But there are good reasons for thinking that this view is too limited. Recent experimental results show that people can influence others at a distance just by looking at them, even if they look from behind and if all sensory clues are eliminated. And people's intentions can be detected by animals from miles away. The commonest kind of non-local interaction mental influence occurs in connection with telephone calls, where most people have had the experience of thinking of someone shortly before they ring. Controlled, randomized tests on telephone telepathy have given highly significant positive results. Research techniques have now been automated and experiments on telepathy are now being conducted through the internet and cell phones, enabling widespread participation.
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Fallingman: I share your view but the argument seems stalled for a few dozen pages now!
I share your view point, it would be nice if either less people posted, or more people dealt with the topic.
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trish123: Thank you very much - sad that you seem to have had a sense of humour bypass though, that reply was a joke, perhaps you would care to respond to the comment below which is in my own words - on second thoughts just can it - your opinion is no more valid than those of any of the rest of us, yes, even myself......
Thank you, the proof of "atheists" you have given, is no more valid than my opinion.
I agree.
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anonymous1: I share your view point, it would be nice if either less people posted, or more people dealt with the topic.
During the course of this 'bizarre' thread you
have had 192 responses directly relating to
your question, most of which you have completely
ignored.
But...you would like more people to deal with the
topic.
Like I said earlier.
Such arrogance!!!
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bodleing: During the course of this 'bizarre' thread you
have had 192 responses directly relating to
your question, most of which you have completely
ignored.
But...you would like more people to deal with the
topic.
Like I said earlier.
Such arrogance!!!
have had 192 responses directly relating to
your question, most of which you have completely
ignored.
But...you would like more people to deal with the
topic.
Like I said earlier.
Such arrogance!!!
Which ones proved "atheists" exist?
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