Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder..... ( Archived) (67)

Jul 8, 2009 8:04 PM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
Zeelander
ZeelanderZeelanderLouisville, Kentucky USA91 Threads 5 Polls 2,073 Posts
PeachesandRay: Definitely shoot to kill. In some instances where a burglar was shot but not killed, they have come back with lawsuits against the homeowner and won.
Earl


I remember a case in California, while I was living there, a criminal sued a homeowner whose house he was braking into. The criminal went into the homeowners garage, grabbed and extension ladder and tried to clime to an open second floor window. He almost made it, but the ladder broke and so did both legs of the criminal when he hit the ground. The criminal sued the homeowner and won. California always destroys common sense for the rest of the country.
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Jul 8, 2009 8:12 PM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
raphael118
raphael118raphael118arlington, Virginia USA8 Threads 2 Polls 1,074 Posts
Zeelander: I remember a case in California, while I was living there, a criminal sued a homeowner whose house he was braking into. The criminal went into the homeowners garage, grabbed and extension ladder and tried to clime to an open second floor window. He almost made it, but the ladder broke and so did both legs of the criminal when he hit the ground. The criminal sued the homeowner and won. California always destroys common sense for the rest of the country.


Everyone sane supports shooting someone breaking in thier home when they feel threatened. But I bet the California case is a basic lie from the conservatives. Remember the McDonalds lawsuit by a lady for burns? Learn the details 0f the case and youll be shocked at the truth. McDonalds wouldnt even pay the hospital bill for her third degree burns! She didnt want anything else.
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Jul 8, 2009 8:27 PM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
sxc666
sxc666sxc666unknown, Queensland Australia51 Threads 16,853 Posts
raphael118: Everyone sane supports shooting someone breaking in thier home when they feel threatened. But I bet the California case is a basic lie from the conservatives. Remember the McDonalds lawsuit by a lady for burns? Learn the details 0f the case and youll be shocked at the truth. McDonalds wouldnt even pay the hospital bill for her third degree burns! She didnt want anything else.
Yes I remember that.................Boy O Boy I bet Maccas regrets not picking up that Hospital bill now.
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Jul 8, 2009 9:22 PM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
Zeelander
ZeelanderZeelanderLouisville, Kentucky USA91 Threads 5 Polls 2,073 Posts
raphael118: Everyone sane supports shooting someone breaking in thier home when they feel threatened. But I bet the California case is a basic lie from the conservatives. Remember the McDonalds lawsuit by a lady for burns? Learn the details 0f the case and youll be shocked at the truth. McDonalds wouldnt even pay the hospital bill for her third degree burns! She didnt want anything else.


Actually I say an interview with the guy's lawyer... it was a very sad day for the law-abiding populus.
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Jul 8, 2009 10:48 PM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
BebeII
BebeIIBebeIIConcordville, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 1,965 Posts
Zeelander: I remember a case in California, while I was living there, a criminal sued a homeowner whose house he was braking into. The criminal went into the homeowners garage, grabbed and extension ladder and tried to clime to an open second floor window. He almost made it, but the ladder broke and so did both legs of the criminal when he hit the ground. The criminal sued the homeowner and won. California always destroys common sense for the rest of the country.
There was another case of a man who broke into a house, and had his fingers bitten off by the family's Dobermann. He managed to get into a closet away from the dog, where he bled to death. The robber's family sued and won damages.
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Jul 9, 2009 6:16 AM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
raphael118
raphael118raphael118arlington, Virginia USA8 Threads 2 Polls 1,074 Posts
BebeII: There was another case of a man who broke into a house, and had his fingers bitten off by the family's Dobermann. He managed to get into a closet away from the dog, where he bled to death. The robber's family sued and won damages.


Tell me the cases documentation--- they're phony. Just like most conservatives. Sarah Palin forever!
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Jul 9, 2009 8:40 AM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
PeachesandRay
PeachesandRayPeachesandRayConcord, North Carolina USA72 Threads 1 Polls 1,358 Posts
There are also instances where a homeowner is in the right for killing an intruder but lose a civil suit by the family of the intruder.
I have heard that the civil suits are more stressful than the killing of the intruder




Earl
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Jul 9, 2009 9:00 AM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
Joker5911
Joker5911Joker5911keller, Texas USA7 Threads 42 Posts
That is one thing I like about Texas. If you are sued because you shot and killed someone who posed a treat to you or your family, the dead persons family cannot collect any monetary settlement from you in court.
After all, we are still the wild wild west and we still do have prairie law. The law also states that a "threat" doesn't have to be with a gun or knife or any weapon of sorts. A threat is any communication where you feel your life might be in danger. Then you can use deadly force. However, when the police get there, you don't tell them that you killed him but that you "STOPPED HIM" from attacking you. After all, it is against the law to "KILL" another person. But you can use deadly force to "STOP" them.
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Jul 11, 2009 7:03 PM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
In response to: This morning in Louisville Kentucky, as a home owner was asleep in his bed.... was awaken by someone breaking into his house. The home owner pulled out a handgun fearing for his life. He was confronted by the intruder when the intruder pulled out a gun and shot at the home owner. The home owner returned fire killing the intruder. The gun that the intruder was carrying was found to be one that was stolen from the home owners car earlier in the year.

Very Ironic.... ya think?
Well, later it was found out that the intruder was the home owners 20 year old grandson.


The whole story stinks of BS.

If it had been a real burgulary, the friend would not have hung around outside sitting in the car waiting for the police to arrive after hearing shots and seeing the lights come on in the house.

I'll bet the supposedly stolen handgun had never been reported as stolen.

The only evidence for "burgulary" was that the sofa had been overturned and some cushions pulled out of it. That doesn't sound much like a burgulary to me. It sounds like a hasty effort to give the appearance of a burgulary.

Why would a kid disguise himself, break into his own grandfather's house (armed) and then overturn and tear up a sofa before engaging in a gunbattle with his grandpa?

A more likely scenario would be that the kid came to see his grandfather, an argument ensued, the angry grandfather shot his grandson and then, in order to make it look like a burgulary, produced a ski-mask and a second gun for the corpse, and then hastily overturned and tore up the sofa before the cops arrived.

Meanwhile the hapless friend was waiting outside in the car unaware of what was happening inside.
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Jul 11, 2009 8:13 PM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
BebeII
BebeIIBebeIIConcordville, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 1,965 Posts
raphael118: Tell me the cases documentation--- they're phony. Just like most conservatives. Sarah Palin forever!
Go back to your crack-pipe.laugh
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Jul 15, 2009 1:22 AM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
NeWildflower
NeWildflowerNeWildflowerScottsbluff, Nebraska USA15 Threads 2 Polls 754 Posts
RayfromUSA: The whole story stinks of BS.

If it had been a real burgulary, the friend would not have hung around outside sitting in the car waiting for the police to arrive after hearing shots and seeing the lights come on in the house.

I'll bet the supposedly stolen handgun had never been reported as stolen.

The only evidence for "burgulary" was that the sofa had been overturned and some cushions pulled out of it. That doesn't sound much like a burgulary to me. It sounds like a hasty effort to give the appearance of a burgulary.

Why would a kid disguise himself, break into his own grandfather's house (armed) and then overturn and tear up a sofa before engaging in a gunbattle with his grandpa?

A more likely scenario would be that the kid came to see his grandfather, an argument ensued, the angry grandfather shot his grandson and then, in order to make it look like a burgulary, produced a ski-mask and a second gun for the corpse, and then hastily overturned and tore up the sofa before the cops arrived.

Meanwhile the hapless friend was waiting outside in the car unaware of what was happening inside.


That does sound a hell of a lot more likely than the scenario presented doesn't it?
Either way it just sucks...
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Jul 23, 2009 1:31 AM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
galaxy15
galaxy15galaxy15melbourne, Victoria Australia3 Threads 480 Posts
Best thing to do with a captured intruder - tie them to a chair and feed them premium LSD for 6 months, then drop them (still tripping) in front of a police station...
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Jul 26, 2009 8:31 PM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
Zeelander
ZeelanderZeelanderLouisville, Kentucky USA91 Threads 5 Polls 2,073 Posts
NeWildflower: That does sound a hell of a lot more likely than the scenario presented doesn't it?
Either way it just sucks...


Premeditated for 6 months by the grandfather.... that sounds more likely than the grandson looking for drugs or drug money and planning on killing his grandfather by stealing the grandfathers handgun and using it in other robberies.

But then again, maybe I didn't present this in a ways for the simple to understand.
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Jul 26, 2009 8:38 PM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
vanitystorm
vanitystormvanitystormroxboro, North Carolina USA12 Threads 180 Posts
thumbs up
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Jul 26, 2009 8:51 PM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
rioplatense
rioplatenserioplatenseToronto, Ontario Canada3 Threads 1 Polls 326 Posts
Zeelander: This morning in Louisville Kentucky, as a home owner was asleep in his bed.... was awaken by someone breaking into his house. The home owner pulled out a handgun fearing for his life. He was confronted by the intruder when the intruder pulled out a gun and shot at the home owner. The home owner returned fire killing the intruder. The gun that the intruder was carrying was found to be one that was stolen from the home owners car earlier in the year.

Very Ironic.... ya think?

Well, later it was found out that the intruder was the home owners 20 year old grandson.

Charges are pending, but are likely to be dropped against the home owner.

One less criminal on the street.... Thank GOD and our forefathers for getting the paperwork right.


Well....if the intruder was the grandson, it becomes a family affair...

Are you telling me that in every family you don't have somebody...a brother in-law...or sister-inlaw...that you don't want sometimes to take a gun and.....

Opppsss...sorry...too much information...rolling on the floor laughing mumbling mumbling mumbling
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Jul 26, 2009 8:58 PM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
Zeelander
ZeelanderZeelanderLouisville, Kentucky USA91 Threads 5 Polls 2,073 Posts
rioplatense: Well....if the intruder was the grandson, it becomes a family affair...

Are you telling me that in every family you don't have somebody...a brother in-law...or sister-inlaw...that you don't want sometimes to take a gun and.....

Opppsss...sorry...too much information...


Nope, I haven't met anyone in my family that I would ever think ill about. Let me think..... nope, I get along great with everyone in my family.
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Jul 26, 2009 11:08 PM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
AnAngelAlways
AnAngelAlwaysAnAngelAlwaysJoshua, Texas USA2 Threads 546 Posts
If someone intruded into my home and got past my six dogs, the only 9-1-1 call I'd make is chambering a round.
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Jul 26, 2009 11:26 PM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
oranges2apples
oranges2applesoranges2applesheaven, Montana USA15 Threads 1,032 Posts
RayfromUSA: The whole story stinks of BS.

If it had been a real burgulary, the friend would not have hung around outside sitting in the car waiting for the police to arrive after hearing shots and seeing the lights come on in the house.

I'll bet the supposedly stolen handgun had never been reported as stolen.

The only evidence for "burgulary" was that the sofa had been overturned and some cushions pulled out of it. That doesn't sound much like a burgulary to me. It sounds like a hasty effort to give the appearance of a burgulary.

Why would a kid disguise himself, break into his own grandfather's house (armed) and then overturn and tear up a sofa before engaging in a gunbattle with his grandpa?

A more likely scenario would be that the kid came to see his grandfather, an argument ensued, the angry grandfather shot his grandson and then, in order to make it look like a burgulary, produced a ski-mask and a second gun for the corpse, and then hastily overturned and tore up the sofa before the cops arrived.

Meanwhile the hapless friend was waiting outside in the car unaware of what was happening inside.

where did you get all this other info.????
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Jul 26, 2009 11:29 PM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
oranges2apples
oranges2applesoranges2applesheaven, Montana USA15 Threads 1,032 Posts
oranges2apples: where did you get all this other info.????

you wouldn't happen to know worriorwoman would you????
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Jul 26, 2009 11:30 PM CST Home Owner Shoots and Kills an Intruder.....
avecaim
avecaimavecaimSan Jose, California USA9 Threads 1 Polls 4,084 Posts
confused guns are bad confused
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