If you were in a situation like this what would you do? (26)

Sep 10, 2009 2:22 PM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
rossidanny
rossidannyrossidannyWinsford, Cheshire, England UK19 Threads 90 Posts
If you fell in love with a male or female and they were a different religon.
for example you were christian and the other person was Islamic(muslim).
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1) If you really loved them and you wanted to be with them would you convert to there religon?

2) What about the parents of the person you fell in love, they probably wont like you if you are different religon?

3) The parents may even disown there children if they continue with there relationship between the other person, would you be able to live with your self if the person parents disown them because she or he wanted to be with you?

4) And if after a few years you and the other person split up, and the parents will not take there childrens back would you feel guilty?


4) What would you do if the parents want there children back and they would do anything to get them back even kill you, would you move away, to another city, country?
Sep 10, 2009 4:17 PM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
gingerb
gingerbgingerbLetterkenny, Donegal Ireland7 Threads 1 Polls 4,139 Posts
rossidanny: If you fell in love with a male or female and they were a different religon.
for example you were christian and the other person was Islamic(muslim).
`
1) If you really loved them and you wanted to be with them would you convert to there religon?

2) What about the parents of the person you fell in love, they probably wont like you if you are different religon?

3) The parents may even disown there children if they continue with there relationship between the other person, would you be able to live with your self if the person parents disown them because she or he wanted to be with you?

4) And if after a few years you and the other person split up, and the parents will not take there childrens back would you feel guilty?4) What would you do if the parents want there children back and they would do anything to get them back even kill you, would you move away, to another city, country?


It would appear you spend entirely too much time in your own head, and love drama.......rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 11, 2009 3:47 AM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
rossidanny: If you fell in love with a male or female and they were a different religon.
for example you were christian and the other person was Islamic(muslim).
`
1) If you really loved them and you wanted to be with them would you convert to there religon?

2) What about the parents of the person you fell in love, they probably wont like you if you are different religon?

3) The parents may even disown there children if they continue with there relationship between the other person, would you be able to live with your self if the person parents disown them because she or he wanted to be with you?

4) And if after a few years you and the other person split up, and the parents will not take there childrens back would you feel guilty?4) What would you do if the parents want there children back and they would do anything to get them back even kill you, would you move away, to another city, country?
Actually, I agree with Gingers posting!

But, I will add something, in case you realy want to know ....
1. If you don`t mind converting and your heart is in it, then its no problem. To convert with any faith is being a hypocrit. If you both so hung up on your own religion, then you looking for problems in the future anyway, if either of you convert.

2. If you gonna be SO involved with the parents, and they are fundamentalists, then you looking for problems again.

3. Lots of parents disown their kids for marrying into other faiths - its up to the couple to decide how strong their relationship is, and is going to be.

4. By getting married people forfeit their families and begin their own families. If you split up - well that`s just one of those risks of life everyone takes.
Why would a family want to kill you for marrying one of them? Don`t mix with people like that!..Never mind marrying into that type of family!

Now, as Ginger says, get out of your own head ....and stop thinking TOO much - otherwise you`ll never leave the building!
Sep 11, 2009 3:56 AM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
RobertC2
RobertC2RobertC2Xaghra, Gozo, Gozo Malta91 Threads 8 Polls 8,344 Posts
smoky: Actually, I agree with Gingers posting!

But, I will add something, in case you realy want to know ....
1. If you don`t mind converting and your heart is in it, then its no problem. To convert with any faith is being a hypocrit. If you both so hung up on your own religion, then you looking for problems in the future anyway, if either of you convert.

2. If you gonna be SO involved with the parents, and they are fundamentalists, then you looking for problems again.

3. Lots of parents disown their kids for marrying into other faiths - its up to the couple to decide how strong their relationship is, and is going to be.

4. By getting married people forfeit their families and begin their own families. If you split up - well that`s just one of those risks of life everyone takes.
Why would a family want to kill you for marrying one of them? Don`t mix with people like that!..Never mind marrying into that type of family!

Now, as Ginger says, get out of your own head ....and stop thinking TOO much - otherwise you`ll never leave the building!


Personally I'd make love to her for a few weeks and then explain that our cultural and religious differences were too great to overcome and then fly away with a clear conscience!

Simple as that really!
Sep 11, 2009 3:58 AM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
RobertC2: Personally I'd make love to her for a few weeks and then explain that our cultural and religious differences were too great to overcome and then fly away with a clear conscience!

Simple as that really!
grin Ja, us Humans make life so complicated with all our thinking huh?!!!!!grin
Sep 11, 2009 4:00 AM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
RobertC2
RobertC2RobertC2Xaghra, Gozo, Gozo Malta91 Threads 8 Polls 8,344 Posts
smoky: Ja, us Humans make life so complicated with all our thinking huh?!!!!!


I'd like to think I had brought a ray of sunshine into her otherwise sad and lonely life! blushing
Sep 11, 2009 6:10 AM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
rossidanny: If you ....
for example.
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1) If you ....?

2) What about .... you if you ...

3) if they ..., would you ... with you?

4) And if .... What would you do if ..., would you move away, to another city, country?



Dude too many if's and buts...Basically if my granny had balls;she'd be my granda...
Relax and stop asking complicated Q's..it's the weekend..
Sep 11, 2009 6:38 AM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
rimowa: --------------------------------------------------------------

I know that the problem you have posed here is a very very real one and not something to be dismissed as an expression of an overworked imagination. In fact I was astonished at the responses of the two other CS members who seem to have thought that you were being entirely fanciful.

1) I would convert even though I am a confirmed atheist......However, my feeling is that the pressure to convert will more usually come from the muslim family and not the christian one - unless of course they are a bunch of christian fundamentalist crazies of which there unlimited numbers in America.

2) I would seek to terminate their existence ...

3) being disowned for having the wrong god would be a godsend.

4) .. the children come from that very marriage which has been opposed by bigoted parents. Well, if the children belong to the couple they cannot be simply abandoned by the couple. Why the heck should the parents take any children back...these children are not theirs!

5)Check my response to point 2) above. And yes, if I valued my life and the lives of my children I would indeed try to disappear.

Altogether it seems to me that your social and familial situation is highly circumstanced and leaves you no space to even breathe in. ............. even though you have run into trouble for it. I simply reject all the bases of the assumptions you have made- except the possibility of falling in love and unfortunately requiring the speedy demise of my in-laws in order to live happily everafter.


Well darlin` Remover, the lad is merely 22 years old - and seems his Thread question is merely hyperthetical - unless of course he DID marry some Religious Fundamentalist, got death threats from her family, after having children they broke up and now her family refuse to acknowledge her .. but I very much doubt that is the scenario? He`s simply too young to have experienced THAT much, specially as he seems to be happily working in a camp site in Spain to expand his knowledge of other cultures......

Being astonished at my and Gingers practical down to earth suggestions is a bit blind-sided.

As mentioned elsewhere here today is Friday which is my own Religious Holiday when I devote myself to the lesser mortals on this earth, so I take the liberty of attempting to enlighten your esteemed self as to the meaning of Religion vs Spiritual Enlightenment.

1. How is it possible to convert yourself to a spiritual life if you are an Atheist - which means you acknowledge no Supreme Being, which means you would be deluding yourself, which is never a good basis for a healthy mind.
There are many branches of the basic Christian beliefs - the most extreme being Roman Catholics, Mormons, and Jehova Witnesses who don`t usually marry outside their faiths. Then there are the many branches of Judaism, and also the Greek Orthodox.

2. Trying to act "astonished" at the same time as being stupid, actually makes me ponder how I can possibly sit and while away my time replying to you, but it does give my fingers some excercise - all this typing - and at a loss for a new crossword puzzle to complete gives my brain a chance to play with some words.

3. ........thumbs up

4.Read the question. The "child" is the wedded partner - after the break-up of the marriage.

5. Okay, this is good too .... an obvious choice, if the family is SO obsessed - which one should be careful of marrying into in the first place, as these same values will surface later in the chosen partner, after the Honeymoon period is over, and basic training begins to surface.....

..........
I truly don`t believe this is a cry for help - merely an interesting topical thread for discussion? Not a place to climb on top of the wagon heap and hold forth with ideological clap-trap.
Sep 11, 2009 6:38 AM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
gussi
gussigussiVilters-Wangs, St Gallen Switzerland12 Threads 2 Polls 4,032 Posts
Phoenix: Dude too many if's and buts...Basically if my granny had balls;she'd be my granda...
Relax and stop asking complicated Q's..it's the weekend..



rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing thumbs up thumbs up

good one.
Sep 16, 2009 12:04 PM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
ghost007
ghost007ghost007swieqi, Majjistral Malta52 Threads 4 Polls 885 Posts
One should not change what one believes for anyone ....cheers
Sep 16, 2009 12:31 PM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
saseez
saseezsaseezlakes entrance, Victoria Australia1,590 Posts
Im not that religiuos my self but i feel you cant just swap religions for the reason of self gain .... religion and spirituality is a personal thing ..you cant pretend to believe somthing just to get waht jyou want in life wine
Sep 16, 2009 1:56 PM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
brucedavis57
brucedavis57brucedavis57south st. Paul, Minnesota USA10 Threads 132 Posts
I am not religious. Maybe when I am constipated and sitting on the toilet. Pushing so hard, then when something does happend ,it is truly a mystical experience. I havent had an In law that has liked me yet. I havent had a marriage that has lasted either. Not sure that the in laws attitude had much to do with either divorce, but it didnt help any.
Sep 16, 2009 2:35 PM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
brucedavis57: I am not religious. Maybe when I am constipated and sitting on the toilet. Pushing so hard, then when something does happend ,it is truly a mystical experience. I havent had an In law that has liked me yet. I havent had a marriage that has lasted either. Not sure that the in laws attitude had much to do with either divorce, but it didnt help any.
That is simply a Blackout from a temporary too high a Bloodpressure in the Brain!
TNT,'Tain't Nothing To it!laugh
Sep 16, 2009 2:53 PM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
saseez: Im not that religiuos my self but i feel you cant just swap religions for the reason of self gain .... religion and spirituality is a personal thing ..you cant pretend to believe somthing just to get waht jyou want in life
thumbs up Very true, and well said Saseez!

Quite a different thing to adopting a different mode of dress ...... spirituality is something deep within, not something you change at a whim, or to get what you want, or to do better business deals.
Sep 16, 2009 5:46 PM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
gingerb
gingerbgingerbLetterkenny, Donegal Ireland7 Threads 1 Polls 4,139 Posts
rimowa: --------------------------------------------------------------

I know that the problem you have posed here is a very very real one and not something to be dismissed as an expression of an overworked imagination. In fact I was astonished at the responses of the two other CS members who seem to have thought that you were being entirely fanciful.



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A real problem? You know this for certain huh? Why would it be written hypothetically then?

Amazing faculties you appear to have, that you can state what I seem to be thinking.....while I could state categorically, and without a shadow of a doubt, that you don't have a clue.....and wouldn't have ever, even if someone took the time to tell you.



rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 17, 2009 10:57 AM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
A real problem? You know this for certain huh? Why would it be written hypothetically then?

Amazing faculties you appear to have, that you can state what I seem to be thinking.....while I could state categorically, and without a shadow of a doubt, that you don't have a clue.....and wouldn't have ever, even if someone took the time to tell you.[/quote]

I do believe the man has now been enlightened by us wondrous beings - as he seems to have vanished off the CS scene?wine

Or maybe it`s our quick witted responses he was merely seeking so he could return to his regular haunts and carry our knowledge further into the world...? Whatever the reason for his swift departure ....... May he go forth with joy in his heart and unbounding love for his fellow beings, be they human or otherwise.cheers
Sep 17, 2009 11:17 AM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
gingerb
gingerbgingerbLetterkenny, Donegal Ireland7 Threads 1 Polls 4,139 Posts
smoky:

I do believe the man has now been enlightened by us wondrous beings - as he seems to have vanished off the CS scene?

Or maybe it`s our quick witted responses he was merely seeking so he could return to his regular haunts and carry our knowledge further into the world...? Whatever the reason for his swift departure ....... May he go forth with joy in his heart and unbounding love for his fellow beings, be they human or otherwise.


The quick-wittedness and the humour are entirely yours Smoky. Even my best efforts are sardonic.wine rolling on the floor laughing hug
Sep 17, 2009 3:48 PM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
Jan1305
Jan1305Jan1305Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain170 Threads 5,319 Posts
gingerb: It would appear you spend entirely too much time in your own head, and love drama.......


I agree. You are imagining too many obstacles from the word go, therefore it is highly unlikely such a relationship would work for you.

I have been in relationships with men of different nationalities and faith, and I can honestly say I never thought about, nor was it necessary to think about, all these scenarios you have written about.

That´s not to say some of these things won´t happen, of course they may, but one needs to recognise and deal with the problem as it arises, not beforehand.
Sep 17, 2009 6:38 PM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
Englishman55
Englishman55Englishman55Salisbury, Wiltshire, England UK31 Threads 2 Polls 6,405 Posts
rossidanny: If you fell in love with a male or female and they were a different religon.
for example you were christian and the other person was Islamic(muslim).
`
1) If you really loved them and you wanted to be with them would you convert to there religon?

2) What about the parents of the person you fell in love, they probably wont like you if you are different religon?

3) The parents may even disown there children if they continue with there relationship between the other person, would you be able to live with your self if the person parents disown them because she or he wanted to be with you?

4) And if after a few years you and the other person split up, and the parents will not take there childrens back would you feel guilty?4) What would you do if the parents want there children back and they would do anything to get them back even kill you, would you move away, to another city, country?


Love conquers all !! or am I just talking Agape love !
Sep 18, 2009 6:01 AM CST If you were in a situation like this what would you do?
markizamkd25
markizamkd25markizamkd25Skive, Central Jutland Denmark235 Threads 5 Polls 4,706 Posts
Why dont both become agnostic or non religios....If they both love eachother they both should make sucrefices not only one professor
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