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Can you honestly say that from the bottom of your heart that you have never felt pain? FACT is that humans are a selfish race, we all want something and we all feel pain, we don't expect the pain or want the pain but it's still there...And we all expect something from a loved one even if it's just them being there for you.
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RobertC2: Your first sentence to bestbefore was not nice and very unloving to such a nice lady, by the way!
Hey "knight" thanks for that but this lady can take care of herself.
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bestbefore: Hey "knight" thanks for that but this lady can take care of herself.
You see... so who insulted whom?
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bestbefore: No I am not any particular "type" and of course we all enter into a relationships with the hope that it will last,but we do not live in a "perfect world" and people Do split up.If you cut me I bleed,so therefore I am capable of feeling pain emotional or otherwise.I actually believe in unconditional love.
Well I'm happy that's working for you...but I prefer to enter a relationship using knowledge rather than hope. It's just more reliable.
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we all or most of us feel pain it is overcoming the pain and loving again when we are ready that counts
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LovelySerene: Can you honestly say that from the bottom of your heart that you have never felt pain? FACT is that humans are a selfish race, we all want something and we all feel pain, we don't expect the pain or want the pain but it's still there...And we all expect something from a loved one even if it's just them being there for you.
I respect the fact that you are so sure of everything..but I fear that in that confidence lurks a person who seems to be searching for pain.
I do hope you're unsuccessful in your quest.
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RobertC2: So what are you doing here? Shouldn't you be using your time more effectively rather than spouting forth to sad people here?
I used CS when I was in a fantastic relationship - but only because we lived in different countries and used to spend about three weeks apart at a time so I enjoyed communicating here; especially as I was a 'prisoner' in my villa 21 hours per day at the time.
What's your excuse?
I used CS when I was in a fantastic relationship - but only because we lived in different countries and used to spend about three weeks apart at a time so I enjoyed communicating here; especially as I was a 'prisoner' in my villa 21 hours per day at the time.
What's your excuse?
You folks know how to make a guy wear out his keyboard...
What's the point of this post? is it fundamentally important to understand my motivation for being here? Will that make the difference between agreeing with my points or not.
I don't see how.
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Lee464: Well I'm happy that's working for you...but I prefer to enter a relationship using knowledge rather than hope. It's just more reliable.
Well, I might have failed in several relationships but one thing I do know - you cannot apply knowledge to love with absolute certainty..............
the one thing about love is that it is something intangible in that you cannot dictate love and you cannot make another person love you and if a person stops loving you there is nothing you can do about it and however much you try to accept the fact you are a human being and it is bound to hurt.
However much we can try to make love totally unconditional and however much we believe that love can only be good and can never hurt the fact is that losing love is a terrible blow to most human beings because they are imperfect and are incapable of 100% total unconditional love.
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RobertC2: Well, I might have failed in several relationships but one thing I do know - you cannot apply knowledge to love with absolute certainty..............
the one thing about love is that it is something intangible in that you cannot dictate love and you cannot make another person love you and if a person stops loving you there is nothing you can do about it and however much you try to accept the fact you are a human being and it is bound to hurt.
However much we can try to make love totally unconditional and however much we believe that love can only be good and can never hurt the fact is that losing love is a terrible blow to most human beings because they are imperfect and are incapable of 100% total unconditional love.
the one thing about love is that it is something intangible in that you cannot dictate love and you cannot make another person love you and if a person stops loving you there is nothing you can do about it and however much you try to accept the fact you are a human being and it is bound to hurt.
However much we can try to make love totally unconditional and however much we believe that love can only be good and can never hurt the fact is that losing love is a terrible blow to most human beings because they are imperfect and are incapable of 100% total unconditional love.
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Lee464: You folks know how to make a guy wear out his keyboard...
What's the point of this post? is it fundamentally important to understand my motivation for being here? Will that make the difference between agreeing with my points or not.
I don't see how.
What's the point of this post? is it fundamentally important to understand my motivation for being here? Will that make the difference between agreeing with my points or not.
I don't see how.
Basically you want to spout forth and give your point of view and not accept anything back......... it does make a difference because your motivation is, to me, suspect.
If you make yourself out to be 'holier than thou' you must accept a little reaction rather than total acceptance of all you say - ok?
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RobertC2: Well, I might have failed in several relationships but one thing I do know - you cannot apply knowledge to love with absolute certainty..............
the one thing about love is that it is something intangible in that you cannot dictate love and you cannot make another person love you and if a person stops loving you there is nothing you can do about it and however much you try to accept the fact you are a human being and it is bound to hurt.
However much we can try to make love totally unconditional and however much we believe that love can only be good and can never hurt the fact is that losing love is a terrible blow to most human beings because they are imperfect and are incapable of 100% total unconditional love.
the one thing about love is that it is something intangible in that you cannot dictate love and you cannot make another person love you and if a person stops loving you there is nothing you can do about it and however much you try to accept the fact you are a human being and it is bound to hurt.
However much we can try to make love totally unconditional and however much we believe that love can only be good and can never hurt the fact is that losing love is a terrible blow to most human beings because they are imperfect and are incapable of 100% total unconditional love.
Dang Robert....well put!
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RobertC2: Basically you want to spout forth and give your point of view and not accept anything back......... it does make a difference because your motivation is, to me, suspect.
If you make yourself out to be 'holier than thou' you must accept a little reaction rather than total acceptance of all you say - ok?
If you make yourself out to be 'holier than thou' you must accept a little reaction rather than total acceptance of all you say - ok?
Don´t most people do that here?
There are ways to debate an issue without getting "holier than thou" . It´s not easy, and 99% percent of us fail at one time or another on these forums....including me.
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bestbefore: Where do you put the key that winds you up ,or do you run on batteries.According to your philosophy we humans on C.S.are all failures at life because we dare to show our emotions.Only a higher authority than you can judge us as failures.There are a lot of intelligent ,deep thinking,people on the Forums,but just because we dont all agree with your outlook on life doesn't make us miserable.You are making sweeping statements about people you no absolutely nothing about.
And what do you have to say about your ability to find insults where none exist?
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In response to: A heart that desires will always be vulnerable to suffering. Remember that your heart ships with everything it requires from the factory and that it's true purpose is to share it's inexhaustible supply of love and happiness.
It's when we get confused and begin to believe that our heart requires something from another source that we set ourselves up for disappointment and suffering...and deservedly so, as we've then become selfish beings...
Your heart was designed to send out goodness with no thought to where it's going or to whom...just a steady outward stream of love.
The person who understands what his heart is for has a heart that is incapable of being hurt...a heart that wants nothing can not be disappointed.
Those who complain about a broken heart have forgotten what the purpose of their heart is and deserve the pain as punishment for that transgression.
It's when we get confused and begin to believe that our heart requires something from another source that we set ourselves up for disappointment and suffering...and deservedly so, as we've then become selfish beings...
Your heart was designed to send out goodness with no thought to where it's going or to whom...just a steady outward stream of love.
The person who understands what his heart is for has a heart that is incapable of being hurt...a heart that wants nothing can not be disappointed.
Those who complain about a broken heart have forgotten what the purpose of their heart is and deserve the pain as punishment for that transgression.
i had so much loss of love several years ago that my heart romantically is in remission
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RobertC2: Basically you want to spout forth and give your point of view and not accept anything back......... it does make a difference because your motivation is, to me, suspect.
If you make yourself out to be 'holier than thou' you must accept a little reaction rather than total acceptance of all you say - ok?
If you make yourself out to be 'holier than thou' you must accept a little reaction rather than total acceptance of all you say - ok?
Who is claiming this holier than thou status, you are the 2nd or 3rd person to use this label...I never did?
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Lee464: I respect the fact that you are so sure of everything..but I fear that in that confidence lurks a person who seems to be searching for pain.
I do hope you're unsuccessful in your quest.
Ok, lets just says that for arguments sake that I'm not very knowledgeable, I'm only 18, never really been in a relationship before...I'm confident because I believe in myself, I'm a very positive person and I try to make the most out of life, but according to you I'm only searching for pain? I've never searched for pain a day in my life, nor do I plan on it. You say that we should spead love, when you wish me to be unsuccessful. you are a very comfusing person. No matter what I would never wish bad things for anyone...I do hope you're unsuccessful in your quest.
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Lee464: Who is claiming this holier than thou status, you are the 2nd or 3rd person to use this label...I never did?
I'm cl;aiming it from what you write - a**hole!
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RobertC2: Basically you want to spout forth and give your point of view and not accept anything back......... it does make a difference because your motivation is, to me, suspect.
If you make yourself out to be 'holier than thou' you must accept a little reaction rather than total acceptance of all you say - ok?
If you make yourself out to be 'holier than thou' you must accept a little reaction rather than total acceptance of all you say - ok?
Have you read the thread? I had 1 excellent exchange with one together lady who took the discussion seriously. Sadly she is the only 1 who's done so. The others have only got all bothered because they didn't agree with what I say and in true hypocrite fashion then turned around and blamed me for precisely the same behavior.
Funny that...
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LovelySerene: Ok, lets just says that for arguments sake that I'm not very knowledgeable, I'm only 18, never really been in a relationship before...I'm confident because I believe in myself, I'm a very positive person and I try to make the most out of life, but according to you I'm only searching for pain? I've never searched for pain a day in my life, nor do I plan on it. You say that we should spead love, when you wish me to be unsuccessful. you are a very comfusing person. No matter what I would never wish bad things for anyone...
I meant in your search for pain I wished you to be unsuccessful.it was a nice thing I said.
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No I am not any particular "type" and of course we all enter into a relationships with the hope that it will last,but we do not live in a "perfect world" and people Do split up.If you cut me I bleed,so therefore I am capable of feeling pain emotional or otherwise.I actually believe in unconditional love.