"I'm in a relationship right now and I don't expect or even need anything from her, the joy is in trying to make her happy, and she is the same way. I love her to death and I don't have to concern myself with how she feels about me, it's a given.
My focus is to make her feel good and hers is the same for me so why do either of us have to be concerned with what we're getting? It's taken care of and it's a non issue.
It's a healthy relationship in that neither is taking but both are giving. If you can't understand how that works then I'm sad for you."
That's not what your profile says! - so I say you are a liar and a cheat..... either change your profile or retreat in defeat.
You wrote:"I'm in a relationship right now and I don't expect or even need anything from her, the joy is in trying to make her happy, and she is the same way. I love her to death and I don't have to concern myself with how she feels about me, it's a given.
My focus is to make her feel good and hers is the same for me so why do either of us have to be concerned with what we're getting? It's taken care of and it's a non issue.
It's a healthy relationship in that neither is taking but both are giving. If you can't understand how that works then I'm sad for you."
That's not what your profile says! - so I say you are a liar and a cheat..... either change your profile or retreat in defeat.
I know a good dentist who specializes in removing feet from mouths...need a number?
bestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK4,701 posts
Lee464: And what do you have to say about your ability to find insults where none exist?
I say that I have the right to defend myself from being told that I am cynical,miserable and basically a failure in your opinion.Frankly your opinion of me as a person couldn't be further from the truth, but then how would you know that as this is just an electronic engagement which I am about to break off as you are far too self opinionated for someone who has been around a hell of a lot longer than you.
LovelySerene: Nice? I still don't see how it can be nice when you have this crazy Idea that I'm searching for pain...
Ok sweetheart, you seem harmless and probably just drifted into the wrong thread tonight...Sorry if I came across a bit harsh.
In you post you stated things like humans are all selfish, and other very negative things about people and life so I replied that you seemed to be searching for pain because you came across in that post as being very negative.
Then I said I hope in your search for pain you are not successful...meaning that I hope you find happiness instead.
You´ve had something similar said to you in the past, and you know how hurtful comments like that are.
Wow you missed a good thread...I don't feel pain!!! c'mon pay attention.
No seriously if rob wants to lose the plot then that's robs perogative and it really has not to do with me. Language like that is the tool of the intellectually stunted and therefore doesn't even register on my radar...
Lee464: Ok sweetheart, you seem harmless and probably just drifted into the wrong thread tonight...Sorry if I came across a bit harsh.
In you post you stated things like humans are all selfish, and other very negative things about people and life so I replied that you seemed to be searching for pain because you came across in that post as being very negative.
Then I said I hope in your search for pain you are not successful...meaning that I hope you find happiness instead.
Ok I didn't mean to confuse you or hurt you.
Trust me, you couldn't hurt me even if you tried...But am I wrong about humans? Just because I am selfish, should I expect pain? I am trying to understand you're point, I really am, but my mind is drawing a blank...
Lee464: Wow you missed a good thread...I don't feel pain!!! c'mon pay attention.
No seriously if rob wants to lose the plot then that's robs perogative and it really has not to do with me. Language like that is the tool of the intellectually stunted and therefore doesn't even register on my radar...
I didn´t miss it. I read it, and commented earlier.
LovelySerene: Ok, lets just says that for arguments sake that I'm not very knowledgeable, I'm only 18, never really been in a relationship before...I'm confident because I believe in myself, I'm a very positive person and I try to make the most out of life, but according to you I'm only searching for pain? I've never searched for pain a day in my life, nor do I plan on it. You say that we should spead love, when you wish me to be unsuccessful. you are a very comfusing person. No matter what I would never wish bad things for anyone...
LovelySerene: Trust me, you couldn't hurt me even if you tried...But am I wrong about humans? Just because I am selfish, should I expect pain? I am trying to understand you're point, I really am, but my mind is drawing a blank...
I appreciate that.
Yes if you are selfish then you can expect your life to be filled with other selfish people. And that can only lead to pain.
we get what we give in this life. So if we give love then what's the outcome?
It's really quite simple. don't stress over it justgive it some thought...I'm sure you'll figure it out.
bestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK4,701 posts
LovelySerene: Trust me, you couldn't hurt me even if you tried...But am I wrong about humans? Just because I am selfish, should I expect pain? I am trying to understand you're point, I really am, but my mind is drawing a blank...
You are not alone in not being able to understand the O.P.Most people on here have tried to debate and got a bit fed up with his overbearing attitude as have I. I bet if some one kicked him in the nuts he'd know what pain was!
I'm off to walk my dog whom I love unconditionally if I'm allowed.
bestbefore: You are not alone in not being able to understand the O.P.Most people on here have tried to debate and got a bit fed up with his overbearing attitude as have I. I bet if some one kicked him in the nuts he'd know what pain was!
I'm off to walk my dog whom I love unconditionally if I'm allowed.
Are you really leaving this time or is walk the dog some sort of euphemism...
Lee464: Ok sweetheart, you seem harmless and probably just drifted into the wrong thread tonight...Sorry if I came across a bit harsh.
In you post you stated things like humans are all selfish, and other very negative things about people and life so I replied that you seemed to be searching for pain because you came across in that post as being very negative.
Then I said I hope in your search for pain you are not successful...meaning that I hope you find happiness instead.
Ok I didn't mean to confuse you or hurt you.
You are just unbelievable, your manner towards this lady are just so condescending. Everything she said was just fine and she is right that by nature humans are selfish, we just play the game in order to comply and fit into society. She wasn't being negative, she was being realistic.
You are an idealist but not a realist, you have blind faith in your perception of your knowledge. You are like a programmed unfeeling robot, a bit like that cowboy played by Yul Brynner in the film Westworld.
If the common sense part of your brain was dynamite, there wouldn't be enough to blow your hat off mate .... Adios amigo
Yes if you are selfish then you can expect your life to be filled with other selfish people. And that can only lead to pain.
we get what we give in this life. So if we give love then what's the outcome?
It's really quite simple. don't stress over it justgive it some thought...I'm sure you'll figure it out.
but, lets say that you love someone and they say they love you back, shouldn't we expect them to be telling the truth? or what about family, shouldn't we expect our parents to love us, and care for us?
Grandepensees: Well, it's nice to see someone so sure of their opinions but no one likes to be told something from only ONE angle and then told to accept it or be called dishonest and a hypocrite, that's for sure
bestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK4,701 posts
Lee464: Are you really leaving this time or is walk the dog some sort of euphemism...
Now where has your sense of trust gone? She's called Daisy and you can see her as a pup on my profile. Now 6 years old. Keep the love flowing and I'll really try to get out of bed tomorrow and not feel miserable,especially at all the Spanish sunshine flooding through my bedroom window.
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You wrote:
"I'm in a relationship right now and I don't expect or even need anything from her, the joy is in trying to make her happy, and she is the same way. I love her to death and I don't have to concern myself with how she feels about me, it's a given.
My focus is to make her feel good and hers is the same for me so why do either of us have to be concerned with what we're getting? It's taken care of and it's a non issue.
It's a healthy relationship in that neither is taking but both are giving. If you can't understand how that works then I'm sad for you."
That's not what your profile says! - so I say you are a liar and a cheat..... either change your profile or retreat in defeat.