bestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK4,701 posts
RDM59: You are just unbelievable, your manner towards this lady are just so condescending. Everything she said was just fine and she is right that by nature humans are selfish, we just play the game in order to comply and fit into society. She wasn't being negative, she was being realistic.
You are an idealist but not a realist, you have blind faith in your perception of your knowledge. You are like a programmed unfeeling robot, a bit like that cowboy played by Yul Brynner in the film Westworld.
If the common sense part of your brain was dynamite, there wouldn't be enough to blow your hat off mate .... Adios amigo
LovelySerene: but, lets say that you love someone and they say they love you back, shouldn't we expect them to be telling the truth? or what about family, shouldn't we expect our parents to love us, and care for us?
Isn't it in our human nature?
Well that is something for debate..nature vs nurture...and I won't go into that here.
But why should we expect anything? Isn't it better to accept that which is done than worrying about something we might, or worse, should get in the future. Seems like a big waste of energy that could be spent on much more worthwhile pursuits like living our lives better.
Lee464: Well that is something for debate..nature vs nurture...and I won't go into that here.
But why should we expect anything? Isn't it better to accept that which is done than worrying about something we might, or worse, should get in the future. Seems like a big waste of energy that could be spent on much more worthwhile pursuits like living our lives better.
But thats what makes life interesting, just because we expect something it doesn't mean something bad will come out of it. Nobody knows when something will happen, expect the unexpected. Being like this actually helps me enjoy life.
Lee464: Sorry mate but you are a moron...if you see altruism in anything I've posted tonight then you really are lost...altruism is the scourge of humanity. It's for muppets who can't think for themselves because they have no self.Give it a rest your inability to follow has me growing ever more frustrated.
Lee, whatever I think of your original thread topic, and incidentally that has got completely lost now, you should try to rise above any negative comments from others, and negative comments you yourself have made.
People naturally have opinions here, and everybody has the right to post them, whether they agree with yours or not. I know it´s hard, I´ve taken the bait on a few occasions too..... and regretted it later.
To go through life only loving ...human emotional growth is stunted
Emotional pain Is needed ......it is part of growth ...it teaches us how to protect and prepare for life's hardships .....without it at some point , when something goes wrong a break down isn't far away
In any relationship we need all emotions to keep the relationship healthy .....Love alone will not do it .......JMO
Lee464: Do we need to feel the love in return...no, having an outlet with which to give love is the point...that is how the heart works. Any thought to reward is pure selfishness and hypocrisy.
All giving and no receiving becomes tiresome...really, do I really have to answer this? Just think about what you're saying.
Sorry, but I can't give examples...all I can do is tell you that you know this already...it's not like I'm telling people something new here...we all have this knowledge in us but we can forget it...it just takes some quiet introspection...honest introspection to remember what it was like as a child.
Thank you for your input.
I totally agree with everything you've said here. GENUINE love is UNCONDITIONAL. It never wants, or expects anything in return. No expectations; no disappointments. Genuine love wants nothing in return. Real love is it's own reward.
Jan1305: Lee, whatever I think of your original thread topic, and incidentally that has got completely lost now, you should try to rise above any negative comments from others, and negative comments you yourself have made.
People naturally have opinions here, and everybody has the right to post them, whether they agree with yours or not. I know it´s hard, I´ve taken the bait on a few occasions too..... and regretted it later.
Don't worry Jan, this thread started in one direction but as you say it's lost...about 6 pages back I just decided to use this as my nights entertainment. it's not me who's taken the bait...
But one thing this thread does illuminate is how people are scared to death of the truth when it flies in the face of their fantasy worlds. Sad statement really but I won't let that spoil what has been quite entertaining...I just hope the other posters were as entertained as I was or it would be such a shame.
almera03: To go through life only loving ...human emotional growth is stunted
Emotional pain Is needed ......it is part of growth ...it teaches us how to protect and prepare for life's hardships .....without it at some point , when something goes wrong a break down isn't far away
In any relationship we need all emotions to keep the relationship healthy .....Love alone will not do it .......JMO
I'm saddened you feel this way but luckily I don't have to dwell in this personal hell you've created for yourself...but don't despair as you will not be lacking for company as this thread clearly illustrates...
Lee464: Sorry mate but you are a moron...if you see altruism in anything I've posted tonight then you really are lost...altruism is the scourge of humanity. It's for muppets who can't think for themselves because they have no self.Give it a rest your inability to follow has me growing ever more frustrated.
Lee464: I'm saddened you feel this way but luckily I don't have to dwell in this personal hell you've created for yourself...but don't despair as you will not be lacking for company as this thread clearly illustrates...
Tell me please ....when your partner needs Empathy but you can only give Love , how will that help her
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You are an idealist but not a realist, you have blind faith in your perception of your knowledge. You are like a programmed unfeeling robot, a bit like that cowboy played by Yul Brynner in the film Westworld.
If the common sense part of your brain was dynamite, there wouldn't be enough to blow your hat off mate .... Adios amigo