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Nov 12, 2009 2:27 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
Abram: Obama will win DE-SELECTION in 2012, or much sooner if possible.
Looks like the Rats are leaving the sinking Ship now,or a lot of Democrats are covering their Butts!rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 12, 2009 2:29 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
benreceptus: Psalms 53:1 ¶<<To the chief Musician upon Mahalath, Maschil, A Psalm of David.>> "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God..."
comrad,God says that you are a fool, because you deny his existence.
You're uneducated ignorant opinion is of very little importance to God.
The amazing thing is this: inspite of your irrational,and completely illogical, denial of GOD's existance, he still loves you, and desires for you to repent and turn from your sins, and receive the gift of salvation that is only available in Jesus Christ. I challenge you to read the first three chapters of the Gospel of John in the KJV-Bible (or is that too much for your intellectual,pebble sized brain?)
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world (including you,Conrad), that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
Psalms 53:1 ¶<<To the chief Musician upon Mahalath, Maschil, A Psalm of David.>> "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God..."
comrad,God says that you are a fool, because you deny his existence.
You're uneducated ignorant opinion is of very little importance to God.
The amazing thing is this: inspite of your irrational,and completely illogical, denial of GOD's existance, he still loves you, and desires for you to repent and turn from your sins, and receive the gift of salvation that is only available in Jesus Christ. I challenge you to read the first three chapters of the Gospel of John in the KJV-Bible (or is that too much for your intellectual,pebble sized brain?)
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world (including you,Conrad), that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
Go take a Flying leap at whatever,Einstein!barf
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Nov 12, 2009 2:31 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
benreceptus: Psalms 53:1 ¶<<To the chief Musician upon Mahalath, Maschil, A Psalm of David.>> "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God..."
comrad,God says that you are a fool, because you deny his existence.
You're uneducated ignorant opinion is of very little importance to God.
The amazing thing is this: inspite of your irrational,and completely illogical, denial of GOD's existance, he still loves you, and desires for you to repent and turn from your sins, and receive the gift of salvation that is only available in Jesus Christ. I challenge you to read the first three chapters of the Gospel of John in the KJV-Bible (or is that too much for your intellectual,pebble sized brain?)
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world (including you,Conrad), that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
Psalms 53:1 ¶<<To the chief Musician upon Mahalath, Maschil, A Psalm of David.>> "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God..."
comrad,God says that you are a fool, because you deny his existence.
You're uneducated ignorant opinion is of very little importance to God.
The amazing thing is this: inspite of your irrational,and completely illogical, denial of GOD's existance, he still loves you, and desires for you to repent and turn from your sins, and receive the gift of salvation that is only available in Jesus Christ. I challenge you to read the first three chapters of the Gospel of John in the KJV-Bible (or is that too much for your intellectual,pebble sized brain?)
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world (including you,Conrad), that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
Sure glad,GOD's talking to you!
Time for your Meds,Son!comfort
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Nov 12, 2009 2:41 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
hotburninluv
hotburninluvhotburninluvPalm Desert, California USA30 Threads 1 Polls 297 Posts
ooby_dooby: I really hate to burst the bubble of certain people who think the Republicans will regain power in this country but Barak Obama will be re-elected in 2012 and here's why.
He took the oath of office on Jan 20 2009. on that date the DOW averaged 8100 it is now at 10,291 that is a rise of 2191 points. The foreclosure rate has dropped for the last 3 months.
Initial claims just released this morning are 502K which is down from 515K last week.
Continuing Claims are at 5631K down from 5770K last week.
Every indicator of the health of the economy is pointing up. The disasterous presidency of GWB which put us in the hole we were in is finally turning around and by this time next year the recession he created will be gone and will be replaced with the biggest rebound and bull market this country has seen in decades. By the next presidential election the US will probably be out of Iraq and Afghanistan and the last "enemy combatant" will be out of gitmo, tried convicted sentenced or released and the prison there will probably be closed for good. By 2012, our healthcare system will be reformed. By 2012 George W. Bush will be viewed by most people as the biggest mistake the American voter has ever made and Barak Obama will be considered a hero who has earned a second term. In fact there will be millions of people in the US and especially around the world who would love to give him a 3rd term! That comes under the heading, "if it aint broke, don't fix it."
Three years is plenty of time to undo the mistakes made by Bush during his 8 looooong years. A period when American citizens were locked up for years without trial or even seeing a lawyer. When Americans were being spied on by having the gov reading their emails and tapping their phone conversations. A period when corruption reached the highest branches of gov, the White House itself in the form of no bid contracts for Halliburton and big oil co's and pharmaceutical co's and insurance co's.
When an incumbant president can buy the the head of the Federal Reserve and coerce him to lower interest rates to help him get re-elected the time has come to say enough is enough. And that is what America said in November 2008.


OOBY, OBAMA WILL NOT BE RE-ELECTED, IF THE ECOMOMY CONTINUES TO WORSEN--THE JURY IS STILL OUT ON THE ECOMONY REBOUNDING, AS YOU POINT OUT. AND WITH UNEMPLOYMENT UP TO RECORDS HIGHS.

HOW DO YOU EXPECT PEOPLE WITHOUT JOBS TO SCRAP UP ENOUGH MONEY TO EVEN GET THE LOW-COST, GOVERNMENT OPTION, HEALTHCARE INSURANCE, WITHOUT MONEY TO PAY FOR IT???

SO, THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE ON PEOPLE'S MINDS, WHEN VOTING WILL NOT BE HEALTHCARE REFORM, BUT THE ECONOMY!!!!

THEN--Candidate Obama said...When asked if people would be fined for not having healthcare insurance?? THIS answer was..."Ohh NO!" "There will be zero fines for person's having no insurance, that cannot afford it!" NOW--WHAT IS IS ANSWER TO THAT ONE?

How do you like that, a politician (even the Immaculate one, Obama) speaking out of both sides of his mouth! The more things change, the more they remain the same!

OOBY-- AND Mr. President, WHAT THIS COUNTRY NEEDS IS JOBS, JOBS, AND MORE JOBS!!! ALL OBAMA GREAT ORATORIAL SKILLS DOES NOTHINGS FOR ANYONE LOOKING FOR A JOB, TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES, AND NOT WANTING GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE OF ANY KIND!!! HIS WORDS ARE JUST LIP SERVICE, WITHOUT MUCH MEANING, UNTIL YOU PUT THOSE WORDS INTO SOME TYPE OF ACTION!!
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Nov 12, 2009 2:41 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
virgosingle
virgosinglevirgosinglegreymouth, West Coast New Zealand10 Threads 347 Posts
If the wars ends at the end of Obama's term then wont there be another mini resession when all the people who make all those bullets ,bombs and missiles and other surpliers of the war effort, will lose their jobs ????
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Nov 12, 2009 2:42 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
ooby_dooby: Would you care to substantiate this claim with sound logic instead of one liners and copy and pastes from some rightwing website? I gave you lots of reasons for my prediction, I would love to hear your reasons why he will lose to the Republican candidate. The GOP doesn't even have someone viable to run.
ooby, sound logic, or facts do nothing which would leave an impressionable mark on brain matter formed of theoretic impulses. It's the same speculative impulse that directed you to post this theoretic thread, using facts which have already been proven false.

Just in case you missed it, it was an act of terror at Ft. Hood.
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Nov 12, 2009 2:55 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
hotburninluv
hotburninluvhotburninluvPalm Desert, California USA30 Threads 1 Polls 297 Posts
Abram: ooby, sound logic, or facts do nothing which would leave an impressionable mark on brain matter formed of theoretic impulses. It's the same speculative impulse that directed you to post this theoretic thread, using facts which have already been proven false.

Just in case you missed it, it was an act of terror at Ft. Hood.


OBAMA IS IN CONSTANT DENIAL, THAT THIS TRAGIC INCIDENT AT FT. HOOD WASN'T AN ACT OF TERROR...BUT JUST A PERSON "FLIPPING OUT" TO THE PRESSURES OF BEING IN THE ARMY... HOW NAIVE IS OBAMA?
... OR HE DOESN'T WANT HIS PRECIOUS RECORD TO HAVE THE STAINS OF TERROISM ON IT!

THIS DITHERING OF HIS OF SENDING MORE TROOPS TO AFGANISTAN, OR NOT...IS COSTING AMERICAN LIVES---I DON'T SEE THE GOVERNMENT, CONTROLLED PRESS EVEN QUESTIONING, OR TELLING THE PUBLIC THE REAL STORY OF THE TRAGEGIES THAT ARE THE RESULTS OF HIS DECISION MAKING ABILITY, OR LACK OF, THEREOF.
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Nov 12, 2009 3:18 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
jdunne1980
jdunne1980jdunne1980Dublin, Ireland10 Threads 1 Polls 151 Posts
ooby_dooby: I really hate to burst the bubble of certain people who think the Republicans will regain power in this country but Barak Obama will be re-elected in 2012 and here's why.
He took the oath of office on Jan 20 2009. on that date the DOW averaged 8100 it is now at 10,291 that is a rise of 2191 points. The foreclosure rate has dropped for the last 3 months.
Initial claims just released this morning are 502K which is down from 515K last week.
Continuing Claims are at 5631K down from 5770K last week.
Every indicator of the health of the economy is pointing up. The disasterous presidency of GWB which put us in the hole we were in is finally turning around and by this time next year the recession he created will be gone and will be replaced with the biggest rebound and bull market this country has seen in decades. By the next presidential election the US will probably be out of Iraq and Afghanistan and the last "enemy combatant" will be out of gitmo, tried convicted sentenced or released and the prison there will probably be closed for good. By 2012, our healthcare system will be reformed. By 2012 George W. Bush will be viewed by most people as the biggest mistake the American voter has ever made and Barak Obama will be considered a hero who has earned a second term. In fact there will be millions of people in the US and especially around the world who would love to give him a 3rd term! That comes under the heading, "if it aint broke, don't fix it."
Three years is plenty of time to undo the mistakes made by Bush during his 8 looooong years. A period when American citizens were locked up for years without trial or even seeing a lawyer. When Americans were being spied on by having the gov reading their emails and tapping their phone conversations. A period when corruption reached the highest branches of gov, the White House itself in the form of no bid contracts for Halliburton and big oil co's and pharmaceutical co's and insurance co's.
When an incumbant president can buy the the head of the Federal Reserve and coerce him to lower interest rates to help him get re-elected the time has come to say enough is enough. And that is what America said in November 2008.


Who's bubble do you think you would be bursting? confused But let me show the flaws in your theory.

First the state of the dow: What exactly has the Dow got to do with the state of the economy? And What has our president done to bring it up in value? I honestly cant believe I am asking this as I was strongly against it but who was the person who came up with the first stimulas package? Also I think you will find that by the time 2012 comes that the state of the Dow will have little or no bearing on whether Obama gets a second term or not. The rate of inflation will have a massive bearing though.

Second the jobless rate: Shows such a sad state of affairs when people get excited about ONLY 500,000 people losing their jobs in a month. THIS IS NOTHING TO BE SHOUTING HOME ABOUT. frustrated Can you explain to me what exactly Obama has directly done to help this rate fall? The only good news this week was the continuing rate is falling. This is a very positive sign and hopefully the first of many. But these numbers will have to greatly improve if there are to have any relevance on the elections.
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Nov 12, 2009 3:18 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
jdunne1980
jdunne1980jdunne1980Dublin, Ireland10 Threads 1 Polls 151 Posts
Third GWB Presidency: What exactly do you mean it was a disaster? Which part - The fact that the economy grew 7 of the 8 years he was in office? The fact he protected America from being attacked since 9 /11. The fact that he faced evil in the face and fought it? The fact he removed an evil dicator from power and tried to give peace and democracy a chance in the middle east? The fact he quietly got Kim Jong Im a Nutjob to back down and stop building nuks? That he did more than any other president in history (not my words but people like Bono) for Aids etc in Africa. That he had more african americans in high positions than any other president? Lastly and one I admire him for if nothing else, that he was one of the most critised presidents in history but he still did his job. And since we are comparing GWB to Obama, lets do so on the last point. When did we see GWB give out about his coverage even though some if not the majority was unfavourable and or inaccurate. Never. In the job a mere 9 months and we already have Obama asking the press to ban Fox News. The media has a job to report the news (I know shock horror as the amount who dont is fighting) but whether you like it or not what OBAMA is doing is wrong.

Also amazed and maybe someone can explain to me why everyone wants GITMO closed? I can only speak for myself but I know I would not want these people in a prison near my friends or family. Also remember when the Red Cross wanted it closed and they offered the prisons back to the country they were captured which at the time was mainly Iraq and Afganistan and the Red Cross said they were ok there so that would mean it aint as bad as reported. I leave it open and but have a deadline on how long you can hold people and how long you can hold them without trial.

Regarding being out of Iraq and Afganistan by 2012. Well I really hope you are right as that would be awesome but only once we have won and more importantely have secured the area. But I highly doubt it.

Also read up on history. People have never supported a president during war time but history remembers them fondly and I believe the same well happen with GWB. Right or wrong who knows but all the facts usually come out.

Also please explain these people who were locked up without trial and not seeing a lawyer business?

Also dont mean to be smart but why you say millions of americans and especially around the world would want to give Obama a third term. American policy or its leaders should concern themselves with America first. Politics at any level is about doing the right thing and making tough decisions and NOT A POPULARITY CONTEST.

Now let me flip the coin and give you reasons Obama may or may not be re elected. However I am saying these will happen as it is far to premature to know what will or will not happen. These are listed in highest likely in my opinion

People expect to much or him and he ends up losing support
Still in Iraq and Afganistan
Is forced to invade another country like Pakistan, Iran or Korea.
Healthcare failing
Economy failing
Rate of inflation being to high
Weak dollar
Political scandal
Does not run again
Impeachment (highly doubtful but we had that stupid talk for GWB and Clinton so it seems to be an "in" word.)

Look forward to hearing your arguments and or comments.
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Nov 12, 2009 3:50 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
alexey8
alexey8alexey8Tel Aviv, Israel10 Threads 4 Polls 1,496 Posts
laugh Isn't a bit early to decide who the winner of 2012 is going to be? dunno doh
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Nov 12, 2009 3:55 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
ooby_dooby: "That is why according to a gallup poll...today only 22% of the country see themselves being liberal.....35% seem themselves being
moderate.....and 42% see themselves being conservative."

How they see themselves doesn't mean that is how they vote, I could be a hard core Repub but I wouldn't vote for Palin if you paid me.

President Obama is great orator Ooby, I will say that. But not sure how he is going to make the country believe he is a conservative or moderate.
As I said, he doesn't have to. All he has to do is show up, the economy will correct itself, the wars will end, bad laws will be overturned, and he will walk to an easy victory in 2012. 2 govenors races does not mean much.

Hey Ooby.....did you hear that they are going to tax medicaide recepants? Yep in the house bill if you receive mediciade and have a income over $250K, they plan to tax you. Of course this is most of the elderly in the country. DEMs the party that loves you.....as you age into your Golden years."

LOL I wish I made 250K! Quite frankly I couldn't care less for anybody making over 250K a year they damn sure don't need my sympathy. They probably don't even need medicaid.


You can add all the color to this that you want, Ooby.

But people vote their ideology leaning. Convince me that conservative would vote for a incumbant Obama that has not shifted to the middle? That mid roaders would vote for him again. They feel 'tricked' by the man and his liberal administration.

They did not sign on for the second TARP....and budget busting Health Care......nor the increasing unemployment.....nor seeing taxes like the one mentioned.....the dropping dollar.....or the ACORN corruption.

So in your book....President Obama does not matter either. He make over $250K per year. And lot of close personal friends now make over $2250K. Just something to think about, yes?
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Nov 12, 2009 4:02 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
alexey8: Isn't a bit early to decide who the winner of 2012 is going to be?
This is what you call "hope", as those who were fooled into voting for Obama are still hoping he does something so they do not need to admit they were fooled.
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Nov 12, 2009 4:03 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
Polarbutterfly
PolarbutterflyPolarbutterflyunknown, Northwest Territories Canada115 Threads 9,486 Posts
But won't the world end in 2012?laugh
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Nov 12, 2009 4:25 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
Polarbutterfly: But won't the world end in 2012?
Naw,Kukulcan decided otherwise!laugh
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Nov 12, 2009 4:49 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
alexey8: Isn't a bit early to decide who the winner of 2012 is going to be?


I figure we decide here on CS. Save the country and the world the
2 and 1/2 years of campaigning.........is more fair than having
ACORN decide in 2012.
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Nov 12, 2009 4:50 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
ttom500: I figure we decide here on CS. Save the country and the world the
2 and 1/2 years of campaigning.........is more fair than having
ACORN decide in 2012.
Dude will be deciding it anyway.
He will go into Campaigning Mode anytime now!rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 12, 2009 4:58 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
pointhunter
pointhunterpointhunterbutler, Alabama USA6 Threads 145 Posts
with a name like that he may go to shooting people before 2010dancing dancing
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Nov 12, 2009 5:46 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
ttom500: You can add all the color to this that you want, Ooby.

But people vote their ideology leaning. Convince me that conservative would vote for a incumbant Obama that has not shifted to the middle? That mid roaders would vote for him again. They feel 'tricked' by the man and his liberal administration.

They did not sign on for the second TARP....and budget busting Health Care......nor the increasing unemployment.....nor seeing taxes like the one mentioned.....the dropping dollar.....or the ACORN corruption.

So in your book....President Obama does not matter either. He make over $250K per year. And lot of close personal friends now make over $2250K. Just something to think about, yes?
I use color to differentiate my words from yours, not to make mine more important.
As to whether I care about Obama having to pay taxes on medicaid, I don't, nor do I care about people who make a quarter of a million dollars a year. More power to them but I care a lot more about people who have to decide to either eat or take their medication because they can't afford to do both. Maybe if I made 250K a year I would be concerned but if I made that kind of money I still wouldn't care because I could afford to hire a good accountant to hide it like so many wealthy people do.
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Nov 12, 2009 5:51 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
Abram: ooby, sound logic, or facts do nothing which would leave an impressionable mark on brain matter formed of theoretic impulses. It's the same speculative impulse that directed you to post this theoretic thread, using facts which have already been proven false.

Just in case you missed it, it was an act of terror at Ft. Hood.
Exactly what facts are you talking about? The fact they are facts means they are right, not wrong or they wouldn't be facts. And what does the tragic event at Fort Hood have to do with the price of onions?
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Nov 12, 2009 5:53 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
benreceptus
benreceptusbenreceptusBillings, Montana USA1 Threads 73 Posts
ooby_dooby: I use color to differentiate my words from yours, not to make mine more important.
As to whether I care about Obama having to pay taxes on medicaid, I don't, nor do I care about people who make a quarter of a million dollars a year. More power to them but I care a lot more about people who have to decide to either eat or take their medication because they can't afford to do both. Maybe if I made 250K a year I would be concerned but if I made that kind of money I still wouldn't care because I could afford to hire a good accountant to hide it like so many wealthy people do.

Have you received Jesus Christ for salvation?
Romans3:19 "¶Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God."
James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." Sin is sin.
Any sin renders you guilty of all.
Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"
All, with out exeption, are guilty before God.
Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." GOD shall punish all sinners that don't turn to Christ for deliverance from sin.
Revelation 20:11 "¶And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
comrad
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
All, with out exeption, that reject Christ all the way to their grave, will die twice.
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
Everyone who recieve Jesus Christ for salvation, will only die once.
Friend, what is your destination? Heaven, or hell, followed by the lake of fire.
GOD/Jesus loves you.
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