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Nov 16, 2009 10:39 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
jvaski: "Again I didn't say he would get a 3rd term I said "there will be millions of people in the US and especially around the world who would love to give him a 3rd term"WHAT ? WHO are these people that would want that ?


Oh. I get it now .....he was talin about Obama - not GWB.....
It's fine.............hole
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Nov 16, 2009 10:44 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
jvaski: Maybe I'll just sit in the corner and let you handle it then ...
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now that WAS funny....rolling on the floor laughing

tongue roll eyes tongue rolling on the floor laughing

cheers
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Nov 16, 2009 10:51 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
skoogywoogy
skoogywoogyskoogywoogyHouston, Texas USA1 Posts
Yes brother I hear you LOUD AND CLEAR you are a smart thinking man who can put aside the BS and deal with facts and be objective in your thinking Keep up the good work bro.
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Nov 17, 2009 12:57 AM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
lookin4ubabe
lookin4ubabelookin4ubabeTacoma, Washington USA5 Threads 1,135 Posts
jdunne1980: How ironic.... you put up an arguement based on some facts and you even said in this poll that no one would answer you factuly and that you were getting annoyed were people were being sarcastic with you. Then you say to me go back and read your previous thread which I do and post a reply and now your to busy. Please.... As I said to Ooby Dooby earlier you have your opinion and I have mine and I respect that but please dont come one here, give out when you dont get your way and then when you are changelled run away as there is no point.

And again as I said to Ooby Dooby I dont need anyone to do my research as I have plenty of sources who I get information off and I know the answers to all the questions or queries I asked or posed. However I wanted to give you every chance to answer them first to see what you would say but you could not be bothered. Such a pity.

Lastly as I said to Ooby Dooby, I wish you luck on the website and I hope you find what your looking for. Have a nice day!


It's not that I can't be bothered, I have been bothered multiple times...but participating in these threads get very tiresome after a while!! It doesn't do any good to give facts, examples, studies, sources because they are all simply ignored. I doubt that you have gone back and read my posts from other threads otherwise you would have a clear understanding of my opinion on our current state of affairs. Furthermore, when I made the comment about sarcasm.....it was hours before you came along...so as you can imagine I am burnt out. Dealing with right wingers is like beating your head against the wall frustrated
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Nov 17, 2009 3:08 AM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
jdunne1980
jdunne1980jdunne1980Dublin, Ireland10 Threads 1 Polls 151 Posts
lookin4ubabe: It's not that I can't be bothered, I have been bothered multiple times...but participating in these threads get very tiresome after a while!! It doesn't do any good to give facts, examples, studies, sources because they are all simply ignored. I doubt that you have gone back and read my posts from other threads otherwise you would have a clear understanding of my opinion on our current state of affairs. Furthermore, when I made the comment about sarcasm.....it was hours before you came along...so as you can imagine I am burnt out. Dealing with right wingers is like beating your head against the wall


I have read some of your posts. But to be honest if you aint going to reply to my facts then why should I go back and see what exactly you have written. Also in the world of PC aint being prejudice banned? And that is clearly what you have just done to me.

Also from an objective point of view maybe you and others would get on so much better if the slagging stopped. Saying dealing with right wingers is like beating your head against a wall. I am sure there are "right wingers" who could actually say the same about "left wingers". However we are all people and am sure life would be so much easy if you got rid of that.

Thanks for replying though and if you ever wanted to have a discussion on actual events and facts, let me know as I would only be to happy to take part.

Have a nice day!peace peace
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Nov 17, 2009 3:03 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
lookin4ubabe
lookin4ubabelookin4ubabeTacoma, Washington USA5 Threads 1,135 Posts
jdunne1980: I have read some of your posts. But to be honest if you aint going to reply to my facts then why should I go back and see what exactly you have written. Also in the world of PC aint being prejudice banned? And that is clearly what you have just done to me.

Also from an objective point of view maybe you and others would get on so much better if the slagging stopped. Saying dealing with right wingers is like beating your head against a wall. I am sure there are "right wingers" who could actually say the same about "left wingers". However we are all people and am sure life would be so much easy if you got rid of that.

Thanks for replying though and if you ever wanted to have a discussion on actual events and facts, let me know as I would only be to happy to take part.

Have a nice day!


How am I being prejudice towards you? And with all do respect, I am not a slagger (whatever that is), I have always tried to keep my comments respectful. When referring to someone as a right winger it was not meant in a derogatory way, I believe that is what they call themselves...as I am clearly a proud left winger. The part about "it's like banging my head against a brick wall" well...it is! I just read your profile and have noticed that you are pretty new to this site, so I understand that you have not yet experienced the heated political discussions as I have, so after you participate a little longer, I think you will understand what I mean!! I do however, respect your fresh perspective, good luck with that!! Maybe someday we can have an intelligent discussion...but for now, I am taking a step back from the Obama threads, because the sarcasm, lack of open mindedness and bully mentality makes me wonder why I even tried in the first place....because fundamentally people are set in their ways and not willing to hear legitimate proof of the facts! Anyway, have a good day to you too!
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Nov 17, 2009 3:33 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
jlw45: "this will pass as sure as the sun will shine" ????.......that will depend ,a great deal, on wiether or not china {and others} decide to dump the dollar for the IMF....if that happens, and they and russia and some others, have been thretening that very thing, we will be in a serious depression....and probibly worse.....you see, ooby doody...the cash for clunkers program is small potatoes...the situation is bigger than obama being your "rock star" of choice....
I said "as sure as the Sun will rise". China certainly doesn't want the American economy to fail because they are the biggest buyer of our debt (treasury notes). If we go down the tubes they will suffer a similar fate as all that paper becomes worthless so it is very much in China's interest not to cause the US any economic pain. You guys worry about how low Obama bowed to Chinese President Hu Jintao? I got a news flash for you. He was bowing for you and me. It's called showing respect to a man who has our collective balls in his hand (figuratively speaking on course).laugh
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Nov 17, 2009 5:15 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
SoldierByte
SoldierByteSoldierByteGrove, Oklahoma USA1,466 Posts
Conrad73: Jeepers Creepers.............

JEEPERS CREEPERS Toooooo.!!.
and folks say I'm nuts...confused
---SoldierByte---doh
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Nov 17, 2009 5:26 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
littlewolf
littlewolflittlewolfnunya, Oklahoma USA10 Threads 526 Posts
benreceptus: conrad, you should change your name to comrad
And ur anything but a Christian.doh
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Nov 17, 2009 6:11 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
ooby_dooby: Well DUH we were in a very deep recession many people were going so far as to call it a Depression but what I'm telling you is this will pass just as sure as the Sun will rise in the morning. I really wish you would stop twisting my words around.

"The only thing worse than being talked about is being misquoted." ~ Oscar Wilde

Whatever, depends on your definition of twist or comment.dunno
Anyway, buy gold and silver so you can still put food on the table by 2012!cheers
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Nov 17, 2009 6:41 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
toranoga: Whatever, depends on your definition of twist or comment.
Anyway, buy gold and silver so you can still put food on the table by 2012!
It seems as the dollar goes down gold and other commodities go up. Quite frankly I'm a bit surprised to see gold where it's at. A month ago I expected to see gold fall off a little but it keeps chugging along. What's a BU of corn these days? I assume it's moving up?
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Nov 17, 2009 6:51 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
lookin4ubabe
lookin4ubabelookin4ubabeTacoma, Washington USA5 Threads 1,135 Posts
toranoga: Whatever, depends on your definition of twist or comment.
Anyway, buy gold and silver so you can still put food on the table by 2012!


Torango.....we agree on something!! Although, I agree with my friend Oooby that we will see our way through this. It is going to get worse before it gets better. We are seeing improvements but I hate to even say it, but, I do think we are headed for a depression. So yes!! Buy gold and silver and shares in mining companies!!! I think I have posted that before, but it is seriously the best way to go!!
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Nov 17, 2009 9:19 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
lookin4ubabe: Torango.....we agree on something!! Although, I agree with my friend Oooby that we will see our way through this. It is going to get worse before it gets better. We are seeing improvements but I hate to even say it, but, I do think we are headed for a depression. So yes!! Buy gold and silver and shares in mining companies!!! I think I have posted that before, but it is seriously the best way to go!!

I have been buying gold and silver since the mid 90's, whenever I had the extra cash to do so. Bought Barrack Gold and Newmont mining in Jan./06, but will probably roll them over into hard currency(gold,silver) in the near future. It will work out, but a lot of people will lose everything they have in the process. My garden allowed me to put away enough food for at least the next 18 months, I have enough wood split for 3 years and the livestock and hunting provide plenty of meat and dairy products. I have several friends who are doing something similar in preperation for whatever might come.
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Nov 17, 2009 9:32 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
ooby_dooby: It seems as the dollar goes down gold and other commodities go up. Quite frankly I'm a bit surprised to see gold where it's at. A month ago I expected to see gold fall off a little but it keeps chugging along. What's a BU of corn these days? I assume it's moving up?

Corn at the elevator today was $3.68/bu., but the megga farmers around here need $4.25/bu. to breakeven. I'll stay with my open pollinated/organic corn, keep a few animals and not worry about where my 3 squares a day will come from.cheers
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Nov 17, 2009 9:35 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
BebeII: Keynes was dreadfully wrong on many counts.

One of the things Keynes said was that government should juice up the economy in bad times, but he also said that the debts incurred in the bad times should be paid off in the good times. Congress just neglected to read the second part.confused
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Nov 17, 2009 10:37 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
ooby_dooby: I said "as sure as the Sun will rise". China certainly doesn't want the American economy to fail because they are the biggest buyer of our debt (treasury notes). If we go down the tubes they will suffer a similar fate as all that paper becomes worthless so it is very much in China's interest not to cause the US any economic pain. You guys worry about how low Obama bowed to Chinese President Hu Jintao? I got a news flash for you. He was bowing for you and me. It's called showing respect to a man who has our collective balls in his hand (figuratively speaking on course).
doh if the yen replaces the dollar, in the IMF, i don't think china will have anything to worry about, ooby doody...doh ...but that's not what there pushing for....they are working on a global currancy...

and as for china going down with the "sinking ship"....china has the worlds largest cargo ship ever made...it comes to our shores, riding below its waterline...{ie...full}...it leaves our shores well above its waterline...{ie...empty}...how's that for Free TRADE?....i doubt china has anything to worry about... N.A.F.T.A. was somethings, your "rock star" heroe said he would work to do away with....which turns out, it was just another one of his lies on the american people....
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Nov 17, 2009 10:40 PM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
ooby_dooby: It seems as the dollar goes down gold and other commodities go up.
...confused GEEEE, no kidding ?....imagine that...doh


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Nov 18, 2009 7:08 AM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
jdunne1980
jdunne1980jdunne1980Dublin, Ireland10 Threads 1 Polls 151 Posts
lookin4ubabe: Torango.....we agree on something!! Although, I agree with my friend Oooby that we will see our way through this. It is going to get worse before it gets better. We are seeing improvements but I hate to even say it, but, I do think we are headed for a depression. So yes!! Buy gold and silver and shares in mining companies!!! I think I have posted that before, but it is seriously the best way to go!!


I am sorry to be a pain here as I know you dont want to answer my questions but when you say things like above it will really does get to me.

I have a major issue with you saying we are heading for a depression. The reason being that there is no one who successfully say that and if it does indeed happen there is no one (not even our president) who can stop it. That is economics 101. frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated It goes back to the issue of bailing out all the banks and car industry. You dont do it. Survival of the fitess. And also regarding your statement of depression if you and media outlets such as MSNBC, CNN, ABC, Fox keep saying it will happen then it will. Cause what happens when people here these statements, they stop spending money and things get worse.

Lastly to your point about buying gold - I heard a financial "Expert" (and I use that word very losely) who will rename un named recently saying that everyone should buy it. Thats economics 102. If everyone buys it demand goes up and price goes down. And it is defo not the best way to go. However for anyone who wants shares advise do the following: Spend it and spend it now and put some aside for a rainy day.

But if you feel you must invest it somewhere do some of the following:

Try buy a property as they are the only thing defo going up out of this recession. And if you want to a bigger gamble go to a place that is selling houses for $10,000 or less and buy about 10 of them. They will be worth about $50,0000 in 18 months plus.

Now some of you may disagree with me, but I am only trying to help. Have a great day everyone.
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Nov 18, 2009 8:55 AM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
jdunne1980: I am sorry to be a pain here as I know you dont want to answer my questions but when you say things like above it will really does get to me.

I have a major issue with you saying we are heading for a depression. The reason being that there is no one who successfully say that and if it does indeed happen there is no one (not even our president) who can stop it. That is economics 101. It goes back to the issue of bailing out all the banks and car industry. You dont do it. Survival of the fitess. And also regarding your statement of depression if you and media outlets such as MSNBC, CNN, ABC, Fox keep saying it will happen then it will. Cause what happens when people here these statements, they stop spending money and things get worse.

Lastly to your point about buying gold - I heard a financial "Expert" (and I use that word very losely) who will rename un named recently saying that everyone should buy it. Thats economics 102. If everyone buys it demand goes up and price goes down. And it is defo not the best way to go. However for anyone who wants shares advise do the following: Spend it and spend it now and put some aside for a rainy day.

But if you feel you must invest it somewhere do some of the following:

Try buy a property as they are the only thing defo going up out of this recession. And if you want to a bigger gamble go to a place that is selling houses for $10,000 or less and buy about 10 of them. They will be worth about $50,0000 in 18 months plus.

Now some of you may disagree with me, but I am only trying to help. Have a great day everyone.
Well, I agree with you on one thing, I don't believe we are heading for a depression now. A case for a depression could have been made back in December 08 but that's no longer the case due in no small part to the govs bailout actions of the past 6 mo's and the Fed dropping int rates to near zero. It wasn't all done intelligently though such as allowing AIG & BOA handing out huge bonus's with OUR money. They claim it's to enable them to retain talent, what talent? Talent at ripping off the public? Also the TARP that Hank Paulson was in total charge of was like a Chinese fire drill. IMO he was way out of his depth.
As far as bailing out GM goes while I hated the idea it did save 1000's of jobs and an industry that is the life blood of a big chunk of this country and last I heard GM will be able to pay back the loan 3 years earlier and we taxpayer will probably actually make a profit in the end.
You made an error about the price of gold going down as demand goes up but I think you're aware of that.

In my life I've bought & sold 7 houses including a 21 acre farm so I know a little bit about real estate. Your idea about buying 10, $10,000 houses is intreguing(sp) but unless you have a team of carpenters, roofers, plumbers, electritians etc at your beck & call to repair & maintain these properties you are gonna wind up with nothing but a heart attack trying to handle such an endeavor. Any house that can be bought for 10 grand is going to be a slum crack house which has been abandoned and vandalized. If one could turn a 10K house into a 50K in 18 months people like Warren Buffet would be doing it.

See, I don't mind having a discussion with you, just give it to me in smaller doses because contrary to popular belief I do have a real life. Cheers. handshake
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Nov 18, 2009 8:58 AM CST Obama will win re-election in 2012
lookin4ubabe: The Keynesian theory is not all about taxing, it is only a small part. Keynesian economics advocates a mixed economy, predominantly the private sector, but with a large role of government and public sector. This theory served as the economic model during the latter part of the Great Depression as well as World War II, and the post-war.
Keynes was a Doofus!He proposed to treat the Patient with the poison that made him sick in the first Place,a centrally steered Government-interfered Economy,as your Anointed One is doing now,except,some day people wise up,and the Looters and Moochers will run out of Victims! Then all your Fiat-Money won't be worth Crap,not that it is worth much as it is!


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