The Dreaded Budget (207)
Godsgift: Absolutely. There is no shame in an honest days work. Unless your a politician or a banker of course but I did mention honest!
or a debt collector... heartless and spineless you have to be to be a debt collector in my opinion... and ruthless
Omurchu65: Am i the only one who thinks this was a pretty fair Budget considering the circumstances
Sure everyones money is being reduced...
Tax payers are being hit ..Social welfare recipitents are being hit...but its no where near as bad as it was in the Eighties
My god i gave up sugar then and still dont take suger to remind me of them times ....i used to survive on wheetabix and tap water(couldnt afford milk) as half my money i recieved was taken up by the rent on my 1 bed flat which had no heating....(No rent allowance in them days)
went to the uk for work and life was good but then the crash in the early nineties had me standing on street corners trying to get work for £20 a day... As a construction worker not rent boy im afraid.....
Ouchhh Diesel up by 5c a litre ....ok ill just try to reduce my driving and walk that little bit more ...see a positive attitude always helps
Sure everyones money is being reduced...
Tax payers are being hit ..Social welfare recipitents are being hit...but its no where near as bad as it was in the Eighties
My god i gave up sugar then and still dont take suger to remind me of them times ....i used to survive on wheetabix and tap water(couldnt afford milk) as half my money i recieved was taken up by the rent on my 1 bed flat which had no heating....(No rent allowance in them days)
went to the uk for work and life was good but then the crash in the early nineties had me standing on street corners trying to get work for £20 a day... As a construction worker not rent boy im afraid.....
Ouchhh Diesel up by 5c a litre ....ok ill just try to reduce my driving and walk that little bit more ...see a positive attitude always helps
Cant agree with this being a fair budget!..tax payers are not being hit at all..no changes in direct taxes..I actually agree with the wage cut I took...public service are over paid....but I think its obscene to cut Carers Allowance and Disability benefit.....as if these people are living the high life..
Silvercrest: Cant agree with this being a fair budget!..tax payers are not being hit at all..no changes in direct taxes..I actually agree with the wage cut I took...public service are over paid....but I think its obscene to cut Carers Allowance and Disability benefit.....as if these people are living the high life..
its the best budget ever,i might even vote FF again
its not perfect but they made cuts that had to be made
blipper2000: its the best budget ever,i might even vote FF again
its not perfect but they made cuts that had to be made
its not perfect but they made cuts that had to be made
I would probably have agreed with you had the government not been complicit in getting us into the mess in the first place and if the bankers and developers been penalised in some way. As things stand, the entire board of the AIB are still in place and will be recieving bonuses. The banks should have been nationalised and these charlatains removed.
Instead we have the situation where those on benefits including carers and the blind are now subsidising the rich and that can't, in my humble opinion, be morally right.
blipper2000: its the best budget ever,i might even vote FF again
its not perfect but they made cuts that had to be made
its not perfect but they made cuts that had to be made
Cuts that had to me made????? So they had to take 160 million from Child Benefit but in the same budget give 100 million to the drinks industry and 60 million to horse racing / greyhound industry??? You think every child should fund these industries????????????
Godsgift: I would probably have agreed with you had the government not been complicit in getting us into the mess in the first place and if the bankers and developers been penalised in some way. As things stand, the entire board of the AIB are still in place and will be recieving bonuses. The banks should have been nationalised and these charlatains removed.
Instead we have the situation where those on benefits including carers and the blind are now subsidising the rich and that can't, in my humble opinion, be morally right.
Instead we have the situation where those on benefits including carers and the blind are now subsidising the rich and that can't, in my humble opinion, be morally right.
We have a new society now. It's socialism for the rich 9as the average person has to share their money with Bankers and Developers) and Capitalism for the poor (as they are getting nothing from this budget). Its an absolutly disgracefull budget. We made 4 billion in cuts but people forget we are bailing out bankers to the tune of 65 BILLION!!!!!!
Disgrace!
Keeneland: Cuts that had to me made????? So they had to take 160 million from Child Benefit but in the same budget give 100 million to the drinks industry and 60 million to horse racing / greyhound industry??? You think every child should fund these industries????????????
familiies on social welfare will be FULLY compensated by increasing the qualified child allowance and for those on family income suplement too im not sure i agree with cutting the excise duty but i can see what theyre trying to do (stopping people going north,which is draining billions ) ,they are also pumping 500,000,000 euros in to the enviroment
blipper2000: familiies on social welfare will be FULLY compensated by increasing the qualified child allowance and for those on family income suplement too
im not sure i agree with cutting the excise duty but i can see what theyre trying to do (stopping people going north,which is draining billions ) ,they are also pumping 500,000,000 euros in to the enviroment
im not sure i agree with cutting the excise duty but i can see what theyre trying to do (stopping people going north,which is draining billions ) ,they are also pumping 500,000,000 euros in to the enviroment
What about single mothers, on a low wage, with 3 kids and having to pay for child care? Because she is not on welfare she is gettin screwed for 50 euro a month with no comeback. Cutting excise on Alcohol wont make much of a difference cause drink will still be far cheaper up North. And cutting the VAT rate by half a percent is a joke. It wont make any difference at all. I thought we needed to make cuts too but the government has made them in the wrong places. They have screwed the people on welfare, child benefit, Carers, sick people but we are bailing out bankers for 65 Billion. And they will all get big bonuses at the end of the year??????????????????????
drink is slashed!!! YES!!!!!!!
Keeneland: What about single mothers, on a low wage, with 3 kids and having to pay for child care? Because she is not on welfare she is gettin screwed for 50 euro a month with no comeback. Cutting excise on Alcohol wont make much of a difference cause drink will still be far cheaper up North. And cutting the VAT rate by half a percent is a joke. It wont make any difference at all. I thought we needed to make cuts too but the government has made them in the wrong places. They have screwed the people on welfare, child benefit, Carers, sick people but we are bailing out bankers for 65 Billion. And they will all get big bonuses at the end of the year??????????????????????
we had to bail out the banks if you know anyting about economics youd know im right ,i ddnt say it was a perfect budget ,rich peopl have been hit harder ,look at the pay cuts in the public sector(15%),you tell me where else could they make them ,theres lot of good things in the budget too ,mortgage relief will continue till 2017 for examplea and income tax wont be cut
Keeneland: What about single mothers, on a low wage, with 3 kids and having to pay for child care? Because she is not on welfare she is gettin screwed for 50 euro a month with no comeback. Cutting excise on Alcohol wont make much of a difference cause drink will still be far cheaper up North. And cutting the VAT rate by half a percent is a joke. It wont make any difference at all. I thought we needed to make cuts too but the government has made them in the wrong places. They have screwed the people on welfare, child benefit, Carers, sick people but we are bailing out bankers for 65 Billion. And they will all get big bonuses at the end of the year??????????????????????
we had to bail out the banks if you know anyting about economics youd know im right ,i ddnt say it was a perfect budget ,rich peopl have been hit harder ,look at the pay cuts in the public sector(15%),you tell me where else could they make them ,theres lot of good things in the budget too ,mortgage relief will continue till 2017 for examplea and income tax wont be cut
blipper2000: familiies on social welfare will be FULLY compensated by increasing the qualified child allowance and for those on family income suplement too
im not sure i agree with cutting the excise duty but i can see what theyre trying to do (stopping people going north,which is draining billions ) ,they are also pumping 500,000,000 euros in to the enviroment
im not sure i agree with cutting the excise duty but i can see what theyre trying to do (stopping people going north,which is draining billions ) ,they are also pumping 500,000,000 euros in to the enviroment
I'm afraid that's more of the same with slight of hand with a conjuring trick. Just cloud up the issue as much as possible and nobody can see what's going on. What cannot be denied is that they are taking 4 billion out of the benefit system and that it will take that 4 billion next year to prop up the Anglo Irish Bank.
At least if the IMF came in they wouldn't play favourites and the bankers themselves would be accountable.
I don't like to get personal on these issues but how anybody could see this government as re electable is beyond me. This mess is unprecedented.
blipper2000: we had to bail out the banks if you know anyting about economics youd know im right ,i ddnt say it was a perfect budget ,rich peopl have been hit harder ,look at the pay cuts in the public sector(15%),you tell me where else could they make them ,theres lot of good things in the budget too ,mortgage relief will continue till 2017 for examplea and income tax wont be cut
I have forgotten more about economics than you will ever know! Rich people may have taken large cuts like 15% but how is that hurting them? They have huge savings and even witha 15% reduction it will not effect their lifestyle one bit!
It is a well known economic fact that working class people and people on welfare are the ones who spend what money they have. If they dont have it they cant spend it. A rich person taking a 15% cut just means they will save 15% less but spend the same. But working class people and people on welfare will be spending way less which will really hurt the economy.
Income tax on people earning over 35k a year should have been raised. I would have gladly taked a 1 or 2 % rise in my PAYE. People on over 150k a year should have had their pay slashed by 33%. VAT should have been cut to the UK level. They should have raised the price of Tobacco. No car scrapage scheme cause if you can afford a new car you dont need a scrappage bonus. There are plenty of things they could have done!
How about just putting it real simple.....Bail the banks out for 55 billion instead of 65 billion....Cut bankers wages to 250k....ban any bonus payments....and we would have not needed to make any cuts!!!!!!
Keeneland: I have forgotten more about economics than you will ever know! Rich people may have taken large cuts like 15% but how is that hurting them? They have huge savings and even witha 15% reduction it will not effect their lifestyle one bit!
It is a well known economic fact that working class people and people on welfare are the ones who spend what money they have. If they dont have it they cant spend it. A rich person taking a 15% cut just means they will save 15% less but spend the same. But working class people and people on welfare will be spending way less which will really hurt the economy.
Income tax on people earning over 35k a year should have been raised. I would have gladly taked a 1 or 2 % rise in my PAYE. People on over 150k a year should have had their pay slashed by 33%. VAT should have been cut to the UK level. They should have raised the price of Tobacco. No car scrapage scheme cause if you can afford a new car you dont need a scrappage bonus. There are plenty of things they could have done!
How about just putting it real simple.....Bail the banks out for 55 billion instead of 65 billion....Cut bankers wages to 250k....ban any bonus payments....and we would have not needed to make any cuts!!!!!!
the better the banks do the better the country doesIt is a well known economic fact that working class people and people on welfare are the ones who spend what money they have. If they dont have it they cant spend it. A rich person taking a 15% cut just means they will save 15% less but spend the same. But working class people and people on welfare will be spending way less which will really hurt the economy.
Income tax on people earning over 35k a year should have been raised. I would have gladly taked a 1 or 2 % rise in my PAYE. People on over 150k a year should have had their pay slashed by 33%. VAT should have been cut to the UK level. They should have raised the price of Tobacco. No car scrapage scheme cause if you can afford a new car you dont need a scrappage bonus. There are plenty of things they could have done!
How about just putting it real simple.....Bail the banks out for 55 billion instead of 65 billion....Cut bankers wages to 250k....ban any bonus payments....and we would have not needed to make any cuts!!!!!!
the OECD reccomended we cut social welfare as we have one of the best social welfare systems in the world
one tird of our expenditure goes on welfare
it had to be cut,its unfortunate for the less well off but it had to happen
families on welfare will lose very little
fortunatley the way capitalism works the rich get richer(its an entreprenurial system which encourages free trade and good business)or would you rather live in afica or china or any totalitarian state with NO welfare
blipper2000: the better the banks do the better the country does
the OECD reccomended we cut social welfare as we have one of the best social welfare systems in the world
one tird of our expenditure goes on welfare
it had to be cut,its unfortunate for the less well off but it had to happen
families on welfare will lose very little
fortunatley the way capitalism works the rich get richer(its an entreprenurial system which encourages free trade and good business)or would you rather live in afica or china or any totalitarian state with NO welfare
the OECD reccomended we cut social welfare as we have one of the best social welfare systems in the world
one tird of our expenditure goes on welfare
it had to be cut,its unfortunate for the less well off but it had to happen
families on welfare will lose very little
fortunatley the way capitalism works the rich get richer(its an entreprenurial system which encourages free trade and good business)or would you rather live in afica or china or any totalitarian state with NO welfare
cutting vat to the uk rate would cost 1 billion at least
blipper2000: the better the banks do the better the country does
the OECD reccomended we cut social welfare as we have one of the best social welfare systems in the world
one tird of our expenditure goes on welfare
it had to be cut,its unfortunate for the less well off but it had to happen
families on welfare will lose very little
fortunatley the way capitalism works the rich get richer(its an entreprenurial system which encourages free trade and good business)or would you rather live in afica or china or any totalitarian state with NO welfare
the OECD reccomended we cut social welfare as we have one of the best social welfare systems in the world
one tird of our expenditure goes on welfare
it had to be cut,its unfortunate for the less well off but it had to happen
families on welfare will lose very little
fortunatley the way capitalism works the rich get richer(its an entreprenurial system which encourages free trade and good business)or would you rather live in afica or china or any totalitarian state with NO welfare
"families on welfare will lose very little"
Overall maybe but many thousands will find even the smallest cuts a blow.
Cuts had to be made i agree...but the one thing that worries me about this budget is that i do not see how it has improved the possibility for the creation of new jobs.
As for the bankers? put a "W" instead of the "B" and i think its a more fitting word.
Clone: "families on welfare will lose very little"
Overall maybe but many thousands will find even the smallest cuts a blow.
Cuts had to be made i agree...but the one thing that worries me about this budget is that i do not see how it has improved the possibility for the creation of new jobs.
As for the bankers? put a "W" instead of the "B" and i think its a more fitting word.
Overall maybe but many thousands will find even the smallest cuts a blow.
Cuts had to be made i agree...but the one thing that worries me about this budget is that i do not see how it has improved the possibility for the creation of new jobs.
As for the bankers? put a "W" instead of the "B" and i think its a more fitting word.
He's being selective in what he posts. In this instance capitalism has not worked and by his own definition of the rich getting richer, well the bankers should be living in fear of the debt collectors. If I gambled other peoples money away, I would be jailed. In this guy's eyes, FF can do no wrong. I think he's got a little trainset running around in his head.
Godsgift: He's being selective in what he posts. In this instance capitalism has not worked and by his own definition of the rich getting richer, well the bankers should be living in fear of the debt collectors. If I gambled other peoples money away, I would be jailed. In this guy's eyes, FF can do no wrong. I think he's got a little trainset running around in his head.
if capitalism doesnt work,what does? ,communism?,whats the richest ounty in the world ???????its the u.s.a. and shock orror ,its a capitalist country ,the rich get richer but in europe the less fortunate have a great socil welfare system too ,so everyones happy ,go live n cuba youre not happy or maybe zimbabwe or iran would be more to your liking democratic
capitalism works better than any other system allied within a good social system ,which is what we hve in ireland
blipper2000: the better the banks do the better the country does
the OECD reccomended we cut social welfare as we have one of the best social welfare systems in the world
one tird of our expenditure goes on welfare
it had to be cut,its unfortunate for the less well off but it had to happen
families on welfare will lose very little
fortunatley the way capitalism works the rich get richer(its an entreprenurial system which encourages free trade and good business)or would you rather live in afica or china or any totalitarian state with NO welfare
the OECD reccomended we cut social welfare as we have one of the best social welfare systems in the world
one tird of our expenditure goes on welfare
it had to be cut,its unfortunate for the less well off but it had to happen
families on welfare will lose very little
fortunatley the way capitalism works the rich get richer(its an entreprenurial system which encourages free trade and good business)or would you rather live in afica or china or any totalitarian state with NO welfare
The way Capitalism is meant to work is people are driven by profit because profit makes money! The banks have been bailes out by the poor and the bank executives are still earning hundreds of thousands plus taking bonuses.
AIB abd Bank of Ireland took a 3.5% pay RISE this year. Considering the money used to bail these banks out is the tax paid by workers plus plenty of unemployed who had jobs is it fair they get a rise?
That is not capitalism!! That is Socialism for the rich because the poor are forced to share what little money they have with the fat cats but when the banks done well the fat cats shared nothing!!!!
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Only a fool would turn down a job in theses times.
I just finished a mural yesterday...worked for 7 days straight averaging 8 to 9 hours a day at it.....for the grand total of.........................300 hundred yo yos
way i see it is im lucky to get the work and take pride in what i do. So did the best i could possibly do even if it was vastly underpaid.
roughly 60 hours for 300 euro.. i make that 5 euro an hour... and i sincerely give you a pat on the back for that.. i remember my first job was with my uncle when i was 7 doing the milk-run.. i only got 1.50 punts an hour but i absolutely loved doing it.. i did it for 7 years straight, my wage gradually went up to 3 quid an hour lol...