Are anti-depressants killing the libido (82)
RobertC2: It certainly takes one's mind off 'things'!
Only one problem............I can't make love 24/7....... can just about manage 8/24 but after a few days I'm pretty damn worn out and then I get even more depressed!
Only one problem............I can't make love 24/7....... can just about manage 8/24 but after a few days I'm pretty damn worn out and then I get even more depressed!
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venere08: Was that study funded by a drug company by any chance?????
And yes, I did state it has been shown as effective as manufactured anti-depressants, for mild to moderate depression. Not severe dep.
Let's not forget that most people who take anti-depressants have had to trial more than one such drug, because of either adverse severe effects or no effect at all.
All I know is that if I were to be prescribed a medication which had an equivalent in nature, even aspirin, I would choose Nature any day.
And yes, I did state it has been shown as effective as manufactured anti-depressants, for mild to moderate depression. Not severe dep.
Let's not forget that most people who take anti-depressants have had to trial more than one such drug, because of either adverse severe effects or no effect at all.
All I know is that if I were to be prescribed a medication which had an equivalent in nature, even aspirin, I would choose Nature any day.
Let's see YOUR source(s) then... and it had better not be from witch doctor.. you're meddling with the health of mentally ill people here and you are NOT an expert so your opinion isn't really valid.
Neither is my opinion.
Let's leave it at that..... I HATE to take drugs of any sort and negotaite with my psychiatrist to take the smallest doseage possible..... I don't like what I've read about the side-effects of even the drug I'm taking but I'm not going to take something with known side-effects that mean I can't have a cup of coffee or glass of wine or go out into the sun either!
Give it a break......... as a patient I do my best to take reasonable advice and I feel confident that the PROFESSIONAL people I deal with are NOT in the hands of the drug companies.
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JAN_is: Well you´re in a no win situation then!
Not really...... if I'm in an LDR I can go drug free for a couple of weeks and return home and take pills while I recuperate my poor exhausted body then return once more to the fray a rejuvenated man!
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RobertC2: Not really...... if I'm in an LDR I can go drug free for a couple of weeks and return home and take pills while I recuperate my poor exhausted body then return once more to the fray a rejuvenated man!
It's just all a matter of timing and pacing oneself..... we can't be happy all the time and we can't be depressed all the time either!
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RobertC2: Not really...... if I'm in an LDR I can go drug free for a couple of weeks and return home and take pills while I recuperate my poor exhausted body then return once more to the fray a rejuvenated man!
I was replying to Steve´s post.
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JAN_is: I was replying to Steve´s post.
Sshhhhhh...I was laughing!
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isseymiyake: anybody has coments or experiences about this?
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RobertC2: Not really...... if I'm in an LDR I can go drug free for a couple of weeks and return home and take pills while I recuperate my poor exhausted body then return once more to the fray a rejuvenated man!
If you are on any medication it is not a good idea to go, drug free, as you put it for a couple of weeks. A person is on medication for a reason and self medicating, ie deciding to just stop taking meds is never a good idea.
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RobertC2: Let's see YOUR source(s) then... and it had better not be from witch doctor.. you're meddling with the health of mentally ill people here and you are NOT an expert so your opinion isn't really valid.
Neither is my opinion.
Let's leave it at that..... I HATE to take drugs of any sort and negotaite with my psychiatrist to take the smallest doseage possible..... I don't like what I've read about the side-effects of even the drug I'm taking but I'm not going to take something with known side-effects that mean I can't have a cup of coffee or glass of wine or go out into the sun either!
Give it a break......... as a patient I do my best to take reasonable advice and I feel confident that the PROFESSIONAL people I deal with are NOT in the hands of the drug companies.
Neither is my opinion.
Let's leave it at that..... I HATE to take drugs of any sort and negotaite with my psychiatrist to take the smallest doseage possible..... I don't like what I've read about the side-effects of even the drug I'm taking but I'm not going to take something with known side-effects that mean I can't have a cup of coffee or glass of wine or go out into the sun either!
Give it a break......... as a patient I do my best to take reasonable advice and I feel confident that the PROFESSIONAL people I deal with are NOT in the hands of the drug companies.
No, Robert, I don't have a source handy for you at this moment. Why on earth would I? And it wouldn't matter to you either, because you are set in your opinion.
Not sure what you mean by expert. I work in the field, and need to keep informed. I claim to be no more expert than that.
In any case, this is not a thread to convince people of the merits of manufactured vs more natural medications.
It is about the effect of antidepressants on libido.
We all know there are way too many factors involved, but each of us is here to give an opinion. What the heck are you on about, that I am meddling with "the health of mentally ill people here". On whose behalf are you speaking, Robert???
This is not a therapy site for heaven's sake. You obviously took the wrong turn. Go back, turn right, you will get to the correct site. 
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venere08: No, Robert, I don't have a source handy for you at this moment. Why on earth would I? And it wouldn't matter to you either, because you are set in your opinion.
Not sure what you mean by expert. I work in the field, and need to keep informed. I claim to be no more expert than that.
In any case, this is not a thread to convince people of the merits of manufactured vs more natural medications.
It is about the effect of antidepressants on libido.
We all know there are way too many factors involved, but each of us is here to give an opinion. What the heck are you on about, that I am meddling with "the health of mentally ill people here". On whose behalf are you speaking, Robert??? This is not a therapy site for heaven's sake. You obviously took the wrong turn. Go back, turn right, you will get to the correct site.
Not sure what you mean by expert. I work in the field, and need to keep informed. I claim to be no more expert than that.
In any case, this is not a thread to convince people of the merits of manufactured vs more natural medications.
It is about the effect of antidepressants on libido.
We all know there are way too many factors involved, but each of us is here to give an opinion. What the heck are you on about, that I am meddling with "the health of mentally ill people here". On whose behalf are you speaking, Robert??? This is not a therapy site for heaven's sake. You obviously took the wrong turn. Go back, turn right, you will get to the correct site.
Sorry - you're the one who started it all bt accusing me of making a blanket statement.
Now you state you work in the fiel, which is great.
Please state your MEDICAL qualifications.
Some months back in the EU forum there was quite a heated debate about anti-depressant drugs and i saw one video that really scared me............ I can only do what I believe is best in the circumstances.
Please re-read what you yourself posted.
I don't care that the OP was a bout the effects on libido - YOU made a blanket statemnt and then accused me of making one.
I don't wish to argue about it......... you are in the business of helping people but it doesn't mean to say you are medically qualified as a psychiatrist.
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JAN_is: I was replying to Steve´s post.
Sorry - I noticed too late after I'd replied!
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venere08: No, Robert, I don't have a source handy for you at this moment. Why on earth would I? And it wouldn't matter to you either, because you are set in your opinion.
You obviously took the wrong turn. Go back, turn right, you will get to the correct site.
You obviously took the wrong turn. Go back, turn right, you will get to the correct site.
I'm NOT set in my opinion.
Don't patronise me; it's not nice!
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venere08: My reading on the topic. I have to with my work.
I do accept that research can reveal new information overnight, it's just I haven't heard any, and I need to keep up to date on these things. And I have close contact with one herbal manufacturer here in Adelaide, A German woman, world known.
But please, if there is evidence to what you say, I really would and do need to know about it.
I do accept that research can reveal new information overnight, it's just I haven't heard any, and I need to keep up to date on these things. And I have close contact with one herbal manufacturer here in Adelaide, A German woman, world known.
But please, if there is evidence to what you say, I really would and do need to know about it.
And you should provide your evidence and your medical qualification too! You haven't backed up a single thing you've said...... just poo poo'd a reputable source I gave as being a lackey of the drug companies.
You are being very condescending to me.......... like I've said you claim to work with people (and I believe you) but what MEDICAL qualifications do you have and why do you believe you are better qualified than psychiatrists who have had to qualify first as doctors beofre specialising and have had decades of experience dealing directly with patients suffering from depression?
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Good point. There are many types of anti-depressants and what works for one patient may not work for the other. Your doctor best knows your personal history and the appropriate medication to deal with your personal needs.
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itsallme112: Good point. There are many types of anti-depressants and what works for one patient may not work for the other. Your doctor best knows your personal history and the appropriate medication to deal with your personal needs.
I'm lucky....... the psychiatrist I deal with totally accepted that some meds gave me really vile side-effects and also was happy that I reduced my doasge by 50% of the other (and now only) drug i was taking.
A couple of weeks ago (around Christmas) my behaviour was unacceptable and manic and a friend suggested I increased the dosage back up again... alarm bells rung and I contacted the psychiatrist; as the drug is a seratonin uptake inhibitor increasing the dosage would have made a manic phase WORSE not better and i was told to reduce the dosage even further.
It's a good thing I don't rely on the advice of friends however well-intentioned!
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itsallme112: Good point. There are many types of anti-depressants and what works for one patient may not work for the other. Your doctor best knows your personal history and the appropriate medication to deal with your personal needs.
I also note that the lady being condescending to me has not as yet stated her vast medical qualifications that make her such an expert on the subject!
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RobertC2: I'm lucky....... the psychiatrist I deal with totally accepted that some meds gave me really vile side-effects and also was happy that I reduced my doasge by 50% of the other (and now only) drug i was taking.
A couple of weeks ago (around Christmas) my behaviour was unacceptable and manic and a friend suggested I increased the dosage back up again... alarm bells rung and I contacted the psychiatrist; as the drug is a seratonin uptake inhibitor increasing the dosage would have made a manic phase WORSE not better and i was told to reduce the dosage even further.
It's a good thing I don't rely on the advice of friends however well-intentioned!
A couple of weeks ago (around Christmas) my behaviour was unacceptable and manic and a friend suggested I increased the dosage back up again... alarm bells rung and I contacted the psychiatrist; as the drug is a seratonin uptake inhibitor increasing the dosage would have made a manic phase WORSE not better and i was told to reduce the dosage even further.
It's a good thing I don't rely on the advice of friends however well-intentioned!
Absolutely right, too - the doctor should always be consulted before making any changes!
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RobertC2: Sorry - you're the one who started it all bt accusing me of making a blanket statement.
Now you state you work in the fiel, which is great.
Please state your MEDICAL qualifications.
Some months back in the EU forum there was quite a heated debate about anti-depressant drugs and i saw one video that really scared me............ I can only do what I believe is best in the circumstances.
Please re-read what you yourself posted.
I don't care that the OP was a bout the effects on libido - YOU made a blanket statemnt and then accused me of making one.
I don't wish to argue about it......... you are in the business of helping people but it doesn't mean to say you are medically qualified as a psychiatrist.
Now you state you work in the fiel, which is great.
Please state your MEDICAL qualifications.
Some months back in the EU forum there was quite a heated debate about anti-depressant drugs and i saw one video that really scared me............ I can only do what I believe is best in the circumstances.
Please re-read what you yourself posted.
I don't care that the OP was a bout the effects on libido - YOU made a blanket statemnt and then accused me of making one.
I don't wish to argue about it......... you are in the business of helping people but it doesn't mean to say you are medically qualified as a psychiatrist.
Robert, this is a singles site. A dating site.
Yes, I made statements about what I know to be in the marketplace. There are doctors here who do support patients taking natural St John's Wort over other types of anti-depressants. I fully support people who choose to take other forms if it works for them. Oh, and knowledge of psychopharmacology is no way restricted to psychiatry. They are simply one type of specialist applying the drug products in the marketplace. This is not the forum to elaborate.
And just as a reminder to you, to my knowledge, there has never been a double blind study for aspirin, yet it has been prescribed for years by heart specialists to their cardiac patients. No evidence at all for its benefits, yet it continues to be prescribed.
Remember, high horses can be dangerous. You can fall off and hurt yourself.
And then the libido will suffer, cos you will be in too much pain!!!
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Nina3: Absolutely right, too - the doctor should always be consulted before making any changes!
Thanks.... I accept that venere is a good person and 'works in the field' in some capacity, but i honestly don't believe she is a qualified psychiatrist and that her 'expertise' is more from her own personal experience rather than some recognised PSYCHIATRIC official qualification.......... she's probably more of a person who helps people in an indirect way but takes a genuine interest as it effects her patients and how she herself deals with them.
I don't know as she seems reluctant to make clear her 'expertise'.
I really did not like her attitude to me......... I am a patient and I obviously want the best advice and treatment possible and I am always open to new possibilities of making my life mor sane and my behaviour more acceptable.
I refuse to be talked down to though!
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Well you´re in a no win situation then!