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Jan 16, 2010 10:14 AM CST Haiti News Coverage
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
I may be way off-base here .........but does it disturb anyone else to see Brian Williams and Diane Sawyer standing there in their freshly washed shirts pointing out dead bodies and starving children behind them ?very mad

My point being, it sure seems like news media anchors and their entourage have an easy time getting their equipment, lear jets, tents, food, supplies and generators etc etc to a disaster site.

Souldn't they ( huge TV companies corporations ) be more humane and use those resources to fly in food and medical supplies to these poor people ???? very mad

Realizing that news media coverage does help donations from around the world helps ease my thoughts of frustration.
But, the fact remains that these people are dieing in the streets and just one lear jet packed with supplies could have saved hundreds of them..............frustrated
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Jan 16, 2010 10:45 AM CST Haiti News Coverage
Who says they didn't bring food and medical support? Real humanitarian people or companies give huge amounts to help but don't look for publicity.
Moreover, in such a desaster, you cannot save everybody and even if you share everything you have, you still can film thousands of starving children.
I don't know if some journalists became insensible, but I can tell you that when I travelled to very poor countries, I gave everything I had (all my clothes, medicine, etc), I took a lot of pictures but was crying all night.
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Jan 16, 2010 10:50 AM CST Haiti News Coverage
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
Bump .....

this is a link to Juneau's UK thread .......

WAYS TO DONATE TO THE D.E.C. HAITI EARTHQUAKE APPEAL:

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Jan 16, 2010 10:58 AM CST Haiti News Coverage
cynthie
cynthiecynthieCold Mountain, North Carolina USA1 Threads 1 Polls 30 Posts
I have definitely seen instances of insensitive coverage, as well as very sensitive coverage.

The worst was an interview with a US GOV meteorologist a day after the quake hit and he was almost gleeful at the scale of the earthquake. They should NEVER let him go on camera again. He can just sit behind his little computer and analyze to his heart's content.

But also, suuply is complex in a disaster zone. If allocation is done without planning or perceieved as "unfair," it could create a very dangerous situation for everyone.

Perhaps the crews brought in donations and gave them to local NGOs or another organization that was logistically prepared (relatively speaking)?? One would hope this is the case.

As far as the presence of the immaculately groomed journalist at the scene of a humanitasrian crisis - that is absolutely inappropriate.
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Jan 16, 2010 11:04 AM CST Haiti News Coverage
Odysseus101
Odysseus101Odysseus101Roma, Lazio Italy46 Threads 12 Polls 925 Posts
I probably haven't seen the same footage you have, I've been watching CNN, where they have 12 people on the ground. It does seem like common logic to expect a news reporter to put his camera aside and help someone dying, but the truth is, they can play a far more effective role getting the message out. What they need down there is not so much people, but helicopters and supplies to air drop to people. That, and heavy equipment. They need that port up and running again, otherwise they can't offload ships. The whole place is a mess.

jvaski:
Souldn't they ( huge TV companies corporations ) be more humane and use those resources to fly in food and medical supplies to these poor people ????

Realizing that news media coverage does help donations from around the world helps ease my thoughts of frustration.
But, the fact remains that these people are dieing in the streets and just one lear jet packed with supplies could have saved hundreds of them..............
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Jan 16, 2010 11:06 AM CST Haiti News Coverage
Odysseus101
Odysseus101Odysseus101Roma, Lazio Italy46 Threads 12 Polls 925 Posts
CNN reporters look pretty greasy, sunburnt and tired to me. Sanjay Gupter, the CNN medical dude, is actually treating patients as part of his reporting.
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Jan 16, 2010 11:10 AM CST Haiti News Coverage
cynthie
cynthiecynthieCold Mountain, North Carolina USA1 Threads 1 Polls 30 Posts
Odysseus101: I probably haven't seen the same footage you have, I've been watching CNN, where they have 12 people on the ground. It does seem like common logic to expect a news reporter to put his camera aside and help someone dying, but the truth is, they can play a far more effective role getting the message out. What they need down there is not so much people, but helicopters and supplies to air drop to people. That, and heavy equipment. They need that port up and running again, otherwise they can't offload ships. The whole place is a mess.


I agree. They need to be careful about the balance of aid workers and victims.
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Jan 16, 2010 11:45 AM CST Haiti News Coverage
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
The scenes of the rioting, bodies lying around, starvation, people begging for help are the same that I saw there in the 70's and mid 80's with the exception of the devastation of the buildings...Port-Au Prince always reminded me of places like Lagos, Nigeria, Maputo, Mogadishu, Libreville and others...nothing seems to change except for the amount of deaths. Haiti has always been the hell-hole of the Caribbean. Other peoples have overcome the horrid social conditions that will still persist long after the 'clean-up' of the earthquake devastation. It will take years and billions to rebuild but to what end, I have no idea...I only wonder at where are any aircraft carriers filled with choppers to actually get to places with troops to cordon off areas to safely drop aid to people...and properly co-ordinate such efforts. The last thing those people need are self styled 'aid co-coordinators' stealing all the aid they and their gangs can get and go around playing 'war lords' as was done in Mogadishu, Somalia with all the aid sent there. The conditions are very similar but minus the shooting---so far...
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Jan 16, 2010 11:53 AM CST Haiti News Coverage
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
I understand your frustration but that's their job and the only reason we know how bad things are is because of the worl of these journalists. These guys are human and they must find this heart wrenching too but their employers expect them to do their job.conversing
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Jan 16, 2010 12:11 PM CST Haiti News Coverage
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
Godsgift: I understand your frustration but that's their job and the only reason we know how bad things are is because of the worl of these journalists. These guys are human and they must find this heart wrenching too but their employers expect them to do their job.


What I'm saying is it's fine for them to do their job - but their aircraft are using space in an already packed airport, and our govenment has to oversee and protect them while there.

These resources could be used instead to save lives. very mad
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Jan 16, 2010 12:27 PM CST Haiti News Coverage
Odysseus101
Odysseus101Odysseus101Roma, Lazio Italy46 Threads 12 Polls 925 Posts
I agree with your take on the subject. Uncoordinated delivery of relief supplies will simply encourage gangs to take over and commandeer supplies. The challenge is to keep control of the operation.

solitare: The scenes of the rioting, bodies lying around, starvation, people begging for help are the same that I saw there in the 70's and mid 80's with the exception of the devastation of the buildings...Port-Au Prince always reminded me of places like Lagos, Nigeria, Maputo, Mogadishu, Libreville and others...nothing seems to change except for the amount of deaths. Haiti has always been the hell-hole of the Caribbean. Other peoples have overcome the horrid social conditions that will still persist long after the 'clean-up' of the earthquake devastation. It will take years and billions to rebuild but to what end, I have no idea...I only wonder at where are any aircraft carriers filled with choppers to actually get to places with troops to cordon off areas to safely drop aid to people...and properly co-ordinate such efforts. The last thing those people need are self styled 'aid co-coordinators' stealing all the aid they and their gangs can get and go around playing 'war lords' as was done in Mogadishu, Somalia with all the aid sent there. The conditions are very similar but minus the shooting---so far...
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Jan 16, 2010 12:47 PM CST Haiti News Coverage
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
Odysseus101: I agree with your take on the subject. Uncoordinated delivery of relief supplies will simply encourage gangs to take over and commandeer supplies. The challenge is to keep control of the operation.



It is , or should be paramount. Natural disasters like earthquakes and wars leave the same type of conditions and should be responded to as a war; co-ordinated massive paratroop landings all over Haiti with sweeping up all the refugees into secure zones and drop in the aid .Time is an enemy as is lack of water and food...
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Jan 16, 2010 1:28 PM CST Haiti News Coverage
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
solitare: It is , or should be paramount. Natural disasters like earthquakes and wars leave the same type of conditions and should be responded to as a war; co-ordinated massive paratroop landings all over Haiti with sweeping up all the refugees into secure zones and drop in the aid .Time is an enemy as is lack of water and food...


The part I don't understand is why couldn't we have sky-craned in a few of our modular surgical centers by now ? ?
frustrated
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Jan 16, 2010 1:59 PM CST Haiti News Coverage
Michael211_2000
Michael211_2000Michael211_2000Houston, Texas USA22 Threads 5 Polls 775 Posts
jvaski: I may be way off-base here .........but does it disturb anyone else to see Brian Williams and Diane Sawyer standing there in their freshly washed shirts pointing out dead bodies and starving children behind them ?

My point being, it sure seems like news media anchors and their entourage have an easy time getting their equipment, lear jets, tents, food, supplies and generators etc etc to a disaster site.
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Well, Diane Sawyer only looked that way the 1st day she was there, fresh off the plane I guess. In the past 2 days her clothes now look all rumbled up as if she's been sleeping in them...

It is a little ridiculous that the news reporters (and camera operators and their security entourage) are like EVERYWHERE in and around the disaster zone, and yet rescue teams and aide personnel are almost nowhere to be found. Maybe it would be more efficient to let the news reporters direct the rescue and relief efforts? dunno

Something about Haiti that really bugs me though, is that almost every adult that's been interviewed admits to having 5 or 6 children at least. If you're living in poverty in a resource-limited country, why are you having so many kids? That's insane I swear, and 1 of the reasons this earthquake has led to such a humanitarian disaster. Earthquakes don't kill people, collapsing buildings do though.

Sadly, this disaster may actually be the best thing to happen to Haiti ever, for those who survive it. After the Black Plauge swept across Europe, killing almost 50% of the population, life actually improved substantially (for the survivers)... people who had no hope of owning land before, suddenly found land aplenty, and even though far fewer acres were being cultivated for food, the overall diet of the survivers improved significantly with a lot more meat and vegetables available. And then you get the European Reniassance occurring! All this from a disease that spread like wildfire killing almost half of the people. This tells me something important. professor

I feel very sorry for the individual's affected by this disaster, but as I say it may ultimately be the best thing to ever happen to Haiti. dunno

Regards.

ps. We have the same kind of slip-fault in the middle of the United States too, and it hasn't slipped in over 200 years. The last time it slipped the upheaval was apocolyptic; church bells rang as far away as New Jersey and South Carolina... it broke the famous Liberty Bell. Back then the people living in the area fled in terror... now, the city of St. Louis sits just about right in the middle of that slip fault. Wonder what's going to happen when that thing decides to slip finally... food for thought. confused

- Michael
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Jan 16, 2010 2:39 PM CST Haiti News Coverage
jvaski: The part I don't understand is why couldn't we have sky-craned in a few of our modular surgical centers by now ? ?


A French plane with 5 complete surgical centers did not receive the authorisation to land by the US responsables of the airport. It is now waiting in Dominicain Republic.frustrated
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Jan 16, 2010 8:06 PM CST Haiti News Coverage
cynthie
cynthiecynthieCold Mountain, North Carolina USA1 Threads 1 Polls 30 Posts
The following report from the Office of Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) has been edited to remove internal contact information and to clarify abbreviations and subject headlines.
The mission of the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) is to mobilize and coordinate effective and principled humanitarian action in partnership with national and international actors.

Haiti – Earthquake
Situation Report #4
15 January 2010

IV. COORIDINATION
The Humanitarian Country Team, under the United Nations Deputy Special Representative of the Secretary General /Humanitarian Coordinator, holds primary responsibility for the coordination and provision of humanitarian assistance by the UN and partners. In the context of the integrated mission, MINUSTAH's operational capacity may be drawn upon in order to support the UN's operational response to natural disasters and other major humanitarian emergencies. The level of casualties sustained by Government civil servants and the damage to public buildings has significantly reduced the capacity of national authorities to lead and coordinate the response.
Concerns are raised that a large incidence of unsolicited and uncoordinated influx of humanitarian personnel and supplies entering into the country could stretch limited, critical logistical resources and impact the delivery of assistance. NGO consortia have been asked to play a role in monitoring and assessing the capabilities of voluntary organizations wishing to help.
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Jan 16, 2010 8:11 PM CST Haiti News Coverage
JAN_is
JAN_isJAN_isMurcia city centre, Murcia Spain109 Threads 3,849 Posts
gabrielle95: A French plane with 5 complete surgical centers did not receive the authorisation to land by the US responsables of the airport. It is now waiting in Dominicain Republic.



European Union, currently headed by Spain, has activated its Emergency crisis management system on account of the earthquake that shook Haiti on Tuesday, as told by French Secretary of State for European Affairs, Pierre Lellouche, in an informal meeting of European affairs ministers.
Besides this, the Spanish national radio said on Wednesday that Spain will be sending 40 disaster relief experts consisting of fire fighters, police, emergency services members and trained dogs along with Secretary of State for Latin America Juan Pablo de Laiglesia and foreign ministry officials to help the natives of the quake stricken island. Another plane consisting of surgeons, medical equipments and field hospitals will follow on Thursday.
In addition to 3 million Euros announced already by the European Union, another three million Euros and a plan to send 150 tonnes of humanitarian aid has also been announced. Spanish Foreign minister Miguel Angel Moratinos has also affirmed the set up and usage of a humanitarian Base in Panama to help in the proper distribution of the aid sent.
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Jan 16, 2010 8:28 PM CST Haiti News Coverage
cynthie
cynthiecynthieCold Mountain, North Carolina USA1 Threads 1 Polls 30 Posts
jvaski: The part I don't understand is why couldn't we have sky-craned in a few of our modular surgical centers by now ? ?


This was another update in the UN report re: field hospitals:

Field Hospitals Coming Online
Twenty-six search-and-rescue teams are on the ground and deployed to priority sites. No further teams are required. It was also announced there are sufficient offers of field hospitals. Two field hospitals arrived in-country yesterday. Three more were expected to arrive today from Colombia, Jordan and Brazil. Two US field hospitals will arrive in the coming days one on Saturday that will be deployed next to the Coast Guard clinic at Killick and the other will arrive on 19 January with a 25 bed, two operating room unit with surgical teams.
Identification of bodies remains a problem, in conjunction with assigning responsibility for the recovery of bodies. The Government is identifying various grave sites. No reliable figures are available on the extent of fatalities.
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Jan 16, 2010 9:42 PM CST Haiti News Coverage
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
gabrielle95: A French plane with 5 complete surgical centers did not receive the authorisation to land by the US responsables of the airport. It is now waiting in Dominicain Republic.


That's rediculous........I can feel the kids screaming in pain from here .......it makes me sick to my stomach
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Jan 16, 2010 9:53 PM CST Haiti News Coverage
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
cynthie: This was another update in the UN report re: field hospitals:

Field Hospitals Coming Online
Twenty-six search-and-rescue teams are on the ground and deployed to priority sites. No further teams are required. It was also announced there are sufficient offers of field hospitals. Two field hospitals arrived in-country yesterday. Three more were expected to arrive today from Colombia, Jordan and Brazil. Two US field hospitals will arrive in the coming days one on Saturday that will be deployed next to the Coast Guard clinic at Killick and the other will arrive on 19 January with a 25 bed, two operating room unit with surgical teams.
Identification of bodies remains a problem, in conjunction with assigning responsibility for the recovery of bodies. The Government is identifying various grave sites. No reliable figures are available on the extent of fatalities.


Thanks for the reports Cynthie...........I guess what disturbs me is this is the year 2010 and here it is four days after the quake and the kind of help these poeple need is still stalled.
I can only hope we'll see a huge delivery of help being flown into the region tomorrow.
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