Burqanisation (244)
cristina: Sindhi, on the other hand, women of other parts of the world need to cover themselves when visiting Saudi Arabia.
Is Burqa religious?
Is Burqa religious?
No the Burka has nothing to do with religion, I used to know the name of the Persian/Central Asian ruler who originally introduced it but old age has resulted in my brain losing contact with my memory, it's in there somewhere and no doubt in three weeks time his name will suddenly come back to me.
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Iuchi_Zien: No the Burka has nothing to do with religion, I used to know the name of the Persian/Central Asian ruler who originally introduced it but old age has resulted in my brain losing contact with my memory, it's in there somewhere and no doubt in three weeks time his name will suddenly come back to me.
Then, lets find excuses to ban it!
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cristina: Then, lets find excuses to ban it!
As I have said for the French not to ban the Birka would have been seen by other religions as a form of favouritism. France has as its state religion secularism. For other western countries to ban the birka should be examined carefully by all of us.
As for excuses to ban it
1. Security
2. Perception of its use as a tool to oppress women
3. Perception that it creates an atmosphere of threat
4. Religious intolerance
Any more?
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Iuchi_Zien: As I have said for the French not to ban the Birka would have been seen by other religions as a form of favouritism. France has as its state religion secularism. For other western countries to ban the birka should be examined carefully by all of us.
As for excuses to ban it
1. Security
2. Perception of its use as a tool to oppress women
3. Perception that it creates an atmosphere of threat
4. Religious intolerance
Any more?
As for excuses to ban it
1. Security
2. Perception of its use as a tool to oppress women
3. Perception that it creates an atmosphere of threat
4. Religious intolerance
Any more?
Now you are contradicting yourself. You said Burqa wasn't religious.
I don't believe in oppression by Burqa. Burqa per se doesn't mean oppression.
Security...could be. But then again, as Ray said, the traditional Burqas, those which create suspicion, are quasi nule! Sarkozy is trying to scoure politically, trying to show his alliance to the US, trying to fix what's not broken.
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cristina: Now you are contradicting yourself. You said Burqa wasn't religious.
I don't believe in oppression by Burqa. Burqa per se doesn't mean oppression.
Security...could be. But then again, as Ray said, the traditional Burqas, those which create suspicion, are quasi nule! Sarkozy is trying to scoure politically, trying to show his alliance to the US, trying to fix what's not broken.
I don't believe in oppression by Burqa. Burqa per se doesn't mean oppression.
Security...could be. But then again, as Ray said, the traditional Burqas, those which create suspicion, are quasi nule! Sarkozy is trying to scoure politically, trying to show his alliance to the US, trying to fix what's not broken.
You asked me for the excuses which would be used not whether they would be factually correct. Like a politician would care whether he told the truth or not?
Oh and the politicians will argue that the wearing of the Birka, which is not in itself a religious garment is worn as a SYMBOL of the Islamic faith.
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sindhiboy: Is it not against human rights to banned the burqa in any country ?
Can I put on a stocking over my head and go to a bank? Its my god given right to wear whatever I like right? Pfffft !!!
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EliteOne: Can I put on a stocking over my head and go to a bank? Its my god given right to wear whatever I like right? Pfffft !!!
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When i lived in a Muslim country i was expected to abide by certain codes according to culture and custom, which i did it was my choice to live there so think that was fair enough, if i didn't like it i could leave.
Really think the same courtesy should be shown when people from these countries CHOOSE to relocate.
Really think the same courtesy should be shown when people from these countries CHOOSE to relocate.
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morgan5: When i lived in a Muslim country i was expected to abide by certain codes according to culture and custom, which i did it was my choice to live there so think that was fair enough, if i didn't like it i could leave.
Really think the same courtesy should be shown when people from these countries CHOOSE to relocate.
Really think the same courtesy should be shown when people from these countries CHOOSE to relocate.
I agree, as far as Im concerned burqa is security issue.
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why is appearing naked on a stadium against the law????
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Having lived and worked in several countries over 40 years, the first rule is respect the culture and laws of your host country, you know when moving there what the rules are and you have choice not to go there if you object on whatever grounds to that situation.
With the benefits of life in a country comes responsibility, integrate and respect the culture or leave. Where the children of immigrants who are now considered natives of the chosen country wish to make change in the face of an embeded culture, they do not have to stay in that country but can emmigrate back to their "homeland".
With the benefits of life in a country comes responsibility, integrate and respect the culture or leave. Where the children of immigrants who are now considered natives of the chosen country wish to make change in the face of an embeded culture, they do not have to stay in that country but can emmigrate back to their "homeland".
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Chrisys: Having lived and worked in several countries over 40 years, the first rule is respect the culture and laws of your host country, you know when moving there what the rules are and you have choice not to go there if you object on whatever grounds to that situation.
With the benefits of life in a country comes responsibility, integrate and respect the culture or leave. Where the children of immigrants who are now considered natives of the chosen country wish to make change in the face of an embeded culture, they do not have to stay in that country but can emmigrate back to their "homeland".
With the benefits of life in a country comes responsibility, integrate and respect the culture or leave. Where the children of immigrants who are now considered natives of the chosen country wish to make change in the face of an embeded culture, they do not have to stay in that country but can emmigrate back to their "homeland".
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EliteOne: I agree, as far as Im concerned burqa is security issue.
It really does annoy me that some want to reap the benefits of living in a European country then be treated differently when it suits ------ This thread is Archived ------
Chrisys: Having lived and worked in several countries over 40 years, the first rule is respect the culture and laws of your host country, you know when moving there what the rules are and you have choice not to go there if you object on whatever grounds to that situation.
With the benefits of life in a country comes responsibility, integrate and respect the culture or leave. Where the children of immigrants who are now considered natives of the chosen country wish to make change in the face of an embeded culture, they do not have to stay in that country but can emmigrate back to their "homeland".
Agree With the benefits of life in a country comes responsibility, integrate and respect the culture or leave. Where the children of immigrants who are now considered natives of the chosen country wish to make change in the face of an embeded culture, they do not have to stay in that country but can emmigrate back to their "homeland".
we all have to obey the law and rules of the country but also it is the matter of human rights to force to wear the clothes against thier wish.pakistan is an islamic country but women are extremly independent here they can wear the clothes of thier choice
we have the foreigners and they wear the clothes of thier culture not according the pakistani culture and there is nothing bad
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sindhiboy: Agree we all have to obey the law and rules of the country but also it is the matter of human rights to force to wear the clothes against thier wish.
pakistan is an islamic country but women are extremly independent here they can wear the clothes of thier choice
we have the foreigners and they wear the clothes of thier culture not according the pakistani culture and there is nothing bad
In Pakistan can women go everywhere without needing to cover their hair or their bodies, if their can i am very suprizedpakistan is an islamic country but women are extremly independent here they can wear the clothes of thier choice
we have the foreigners and they wear the clothes of thier culture not according the pakistani culture and there is nothing bad
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morgan5: In Pakistan can women go everywhere without needing to cover their hair or their bodies, if their can i am very suprized
Sure ,dont you know that.women here are very independent they can go every where ,No need to cover the hairs or face also they can wear anything
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morgan5: In Pakistan can women go everywhere without needing to cover their hair or their bodies, if their can i am very suprized
Its ok you don't need to answer, i have just looked on internet and read of a jeand and tight fitting clothing being banned by a college in Lahore, amongst other stories so clearly, they can't where what they want everywhere------ This thread is Archived ------
sindhiboy: Sure ,dont you know that.
women here are very independent they can go every where ,No need to cover the hairs or face also they can wear anything
I googles Womens dress code in Pakistan and that is not what it says at all.women here are very independent they can go every where ,No need to cover the hairs or face also they can wear anything
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morgan5: Its ok you don't need to answer, i have just looked on internet and read of a jeand and tight fitting clothing being banned by a college in Lahore, amongst other stories so clearly, they can't where what they want everywhere
usually ,the diffrent schools and colleges have thier particular dress i think it is every where in the world but in the universties women can wear anything ,jeans ,any other tight or loose clothes ------ This thread is Archived ------
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Is Burqa religious?