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Feb 9, 2010 8:13 AM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
Does electricity flow from positive to negative or from negative to positive. or something different! We are reality and not common beliefs.
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Feb 9, 2010 8:14 AM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
later! I be back!
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Feb 9, 2010 8:23 AM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
jdc5558
jdc5558jdc5558Williamsburg, Indiana USA5 Threads 152 Posts
Electricity is the flow of electrons. Electrons are negatively charged. Therefore the flow is negative to positive.
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Feb 9, 2010 8:35 AM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
jdc5558: Electricity is the flow of electrons. Electrons are negatively charged. Therefore the flow is negative to positive.
Thank you! close! ....to a less negative. Electrons travel in spaces left in the valance bond.


It is funny that most people will not know that and would fight tooth and nail to be right. But with proper knowledge it becomes clear.
This is the problem with people who don't know the Bible correctly. They will fight tooth and nail to be right without becoming knowledgeable. This is both Christians and athiest.

But off to the side is the truth.... proven.

But if one never studies electronics enough to understand......they fight for error.

The same for the faith! They fight for error....never seeking knowledge.
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Feb 9, 2010 8:46 AM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
sindhiboy
sindhiboysindhiboyBeautiful area of rural sindh, Sindh Pakistan49 Threads 4 Polls 889 Posts
jdc5558: Electricity is the flow of electrons. Electrons are negatively charged. Therefore the flow is negative to positive.
thumbs up drinking
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Feb 9, 2010 9:09 AM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
AmericanGardener
AmericanGardenerAmericanGardenerchesterfield, Michigan USA64 Posts
As an electrician maybe i can elaborate the way it was described. Yes electrons are negatively charged. But the simple explantion dosen't quite explain it too well too me. The flow of electricity is from negative to positive but the atoms themselfs change polarity constantly, they are fixed in time and space they don't move... only the electrons are doing the moving.

When an atom is positive charged it is because it has a low amount of free electrons. Those are the ones in the outer orbits of the atom who are free to move from atom to atom. Thus when a material has an electron removed it then becomes postively charged. And yeah when another free electron moves from the orbit of a negatively charged atom to a positive one.. they both change. The negative one becomes positive and the positive one becomes negative. I guess my understanding of the way it works isn't any better of a description. But, both negative and positive are constantly changing states when electricity is run thru an atom. Wether its direct current or alternating current.. it's gonna be just as often a negative atom as it will be a postive one. It's more for a direction of travel of the electricity that one would describe atoms moving from negative polarity to positive.

Well I can see no one is gonna understand my explantion any better than the earlier one. Man this isn't as easy to explain as i thought it would be.
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Feb 9, 2010 9:51 AM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
AmericanGardener: As an electrician maybe i can elaborate the way it was described. Yes electrons are negatively charged. But the simple explantion dosen't quite explain it too well too me. The flow of electricity is from negative to positive but the atoms themselfs change polarity constantly, they are fixed in time and space they don't move... only the electrons are doing the moving.

When an atom is positive charged it is because it has a low amount of free electrons. Those are the ones in the outer orbits of the atom who are free to move from atom to atom. Thus when a material has an electron removed it then becomes postively charged. And yeah when another free electron moves from the orbit of a negatively charged atom to a positive one.. they both change. The negative one becomes positive and the positive one becomes negative. I guess my understanding of the way it works isn't any better of a description. But, both negative and positive are constantly changing states when electricity is run thru an atom. Wether its direct current or alternating current.. it's gonna be just as often a negative atom as it will be a postive one. It's more for a direction of travel of the electricity that one would describe atoms moving from negative polarity to positive.

Well I can see no one is gonna understand my explantion any better than the earlier one. Man this isn't as easy to explain as i thought it would be.
That's because you're making Fruitsalad!rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 9, 2010 9:53 AM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
Conrad73: That's because you're making Fruitsalad!
You might as well paste the Article,and Source it!laugh
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Feb 9, 2010 9:56 AM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
AmericanGardener: As an electrician maybe i can elaborate the way it was described. Yes electrons are negatively charged. But the simple explantion dosen't quite explain it too well too me. The flow of electricity is from negative to positive but the atoms themselfs change polarity constantly, they are fixed in time and space they don't move... only the electrons are doing the moving.

When an atom is positive charged it is because it has a low amount of free electrons. Those are the ones in the outer orbits of the atom who are free to move from atom to atom. Thus when a material has an electron removed it then becomes postively charged. And yeah when another free electron moves from the orbit of a negatively charged atom to a positive one.. they both change. The negative one becomes positive and the positive one becomes negative. I guess my understanding of the way it works isn't any better of a description. But, both negative and positive are constantly changing states when electricity is run thru an atom. Wether its direct current or alternating current.. it's gonna be just as often a negative atom as it will be a postive one. It's more for a direction of travel of the electricity that one would describe atoms moving from negative polarity to positive.

Well I can see no one is gonna understand my explantion any better than the earlier one. Man this isn't as easy to explain as i thought it would be.


I think you described the principle perfectly and in a way that makes it easily understood. Made sense to me, but maybe I'm biased as am also an Electronics engineer laugh laugh thumbs up
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Feb 9, 2010 12:15 PM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
openchick
openchickopenchickPetawawa, Ontario Canada102 Posts
RillyNiceGuy: Thank you! close! ....to a less negative. Electrons travel in spaces left in the valance bond.It is funny that most people will not know that and would fight tooth and nail to be right. But with proper knowledge it becomes clear.
This is the problem with people who don't know the Bible correctly. They will fight tooth and nail to be right without becoming knowledgeable. This is both Christians and athiest.

But off to the side is the truth.... proven.

But if one never studies electronics enough to understand......they fight for error.

The same for the faith! They fight for error....never seeking knowledge.


What a strange thing to say when you can't prove ANYThing from the bible.

As for having knowledge about it? You don't need to know all about greek mythology to know that Zeus isn't real to a very high degree of certainty.

Same is true of Christianity.

(Just to be clear, I HAVE learned about it, but my point was that it isn't necessary)

You have proof? Lets hear it.
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Feb 9, 2010 5:10 PM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
jdc5558
jdc5558jdc5558Williamsburg, Indiana USA5 Threads 152 Posts
RillyNiceGuy: Thank you! close! ....to a less negative. Electrons travel in spaces left in the valance bond.It is funny that most people will not know that and would fight tooth and nail to be right. But with proper knowledge it becomes clear.
This is the problem with people who don't know the Bible correctly. They will fight tooth and nail to be right without becoming knowledgeable. This is both Christians and athiest.

But off to the side is the truth.... proven.

But if one never studies electronics enough to understand......they fight for error.

The same for the faith! They fight for error....never seeking knowledge.


I didn't go into a deep discussion of electronic because only those who have studied it would fully understand. I am here to flirt with the ladies not discuss electronics or the bible with a man.
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Feb 9, 2010 5:14 PM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
jdc5558
jdc5558jdc5558Williamsburg, Indiana USA5 Threads 152 Posts
rizlared: I think you described the principle perfectly and in a way that makes it easily understood. Made sense to me, but maybe I'm biased as am also an Electronics engineer

Me too.cheers
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Feb 9, 2010 6:17 PM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
USThumper
USThumperUSThumperMexico, New York USA4 Threads 3,957 Posts
RillyNiceGuy: Does electricity flow from positive to negative or from negative to positive. or something different! We are reality and not common beliefs.
That depends, are you AC or DC?rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 10, 2010 5:33 AM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
EliteOne
EliteOneEliteOneBrisbane, Queensland Australia38 Threads 1,590 Posts
RillyNiceGuy: Thank you! close! ....to a less negative. Electrons travel in spaces left in the valance bond.It is funny that most people will not know that and would fight tooth and nail to be right. But with proper knowledge it becomes clear.
This is the problem with people who don't know the Bible correctly. They will fight tooth and nail to be right without becoming knowledgeable. This is both Christians and athiest.

But off to the side is the truth.... proven.

But if one never studies electronics enough to understand......they fight for error.

The same for the faith! They fight for error....never seeking knowledge.


That is a shocking example of logic my friend. grin
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Feb 10, 2010 5:50 AM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
EliteOne
EliteOneEliteOneBrisbane, Queensland Australia38 Threads 1,590 Posts
If I was to wind a transformer or a motor? Wouldn’t I change the flow by either winding it from right to left or left to right? confused
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Feb 10, 2010 5:57 AM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
EliteOne: If I was to wind a transformer or a motor? Wouldn’t I change the flow by either winding it from right to left or left to right?


Nope. Transformers operate on alternating current though I suppose you could argue a slight phase change. In answer to the O/P, Conventional Current is regarded as a flow from positive to negative from a time before Faraday when understanding was poor but the reality is actually electron flow which as a previous poster said is from negative to positive.conversing
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Feb 10, 2010 6:14 AM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
I was not judging the answer to my question.....the answer was well put. I did not intend for egos to get involved.

The point is that with the question.....there is what is common to believe and there is was is correct. To understand what is correct one must study. This is the problem with people and the Bible, they contend with bits and pieces, not knowing the truth.....then declaring others as wrong. How can one call another wrong without ever knowing the subject.

Christians also do this. They believe with passion things that are simple to see in error in writing in their own Bible but continue with their false belief. Example: The three wisemen did not come to see the Christ child at birth.....he was a toddler and walking by then. But people put them in the Chrsitmas story. He was not born in DEC. He did not have long hair. He was plain and there was no comeiness about him. He was short, deep in color, he looked like a Jewish man. All in the Bible.

More: People believe that people die and go to Heaven (third)(most don't understand there are three heavens mentioned in the Bible and confuse them) If man dies and goes to Heaven right away......then the reserrection at Christ return is a lie......but man is a lier...not God.

If the people who follow Christ in their minds are so confused (including scholars) then how can those who never study, not believing hope to understand.

The don't! and there is no way to Prove to them a thing. All visable things were made by the invisable. Then they demand that the visible prove the invisable.....foolish. Only the spiritual can prove the invisable things of God. Much as thoughts and experiments suggest at the structure of atoms without proof. (atoms could be found different from common understanding at any time.)

To prove that God exist at this time.....one must study with a sincere heart and sound thinking. There are events taking place now that fulfill things written from long ago. Not close enough things, but exact things......but need be study takes place and they will not do so.......just repeat like parrots things said by others.......then they feel superior.

They are like little kids who buy a magic trick. Then when someone shows the same trick...they tell how it is done and feel they are so smart. they did not figure out the trick.....they only read the instructions..........by giving away the trick they only show how stupid they are and ego warped.

There are events coming that will give proof of God......but it will be a terrible way to learn......read Revelation!
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Feb 10, 2010 6:16 AM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
EliteOne: If I was to wind a transformer or a motor? Wouldn’t I change the flow by either winding it from right to left or left to right?
Transformers don't wind!
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Feb 10, 2010 6:24 AM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
EliteOne: If I was to wind a transformer or a motor? Wouldn’t I change the flow by either winding it from right to left or left to right?
With a dc generator ( or motor if you like)...polarity would be changed......some componets would not work in the system.

With an alternating generator, componets inside are wired for a certain rotation, it would not fuction in reverse.

With a proper design to fuction as you stated could be found...but in common.....no.
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Feb 10, 2010 6:25 AM CST Does electricity flow from positve to negative or.....
menu2
menu2menu2Near Galveston Island, Texas USA2,106 Posts
jdc5558: Me too.
Me three.cheers
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