Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix ( Archived) (83)

Jul 2, 2010 9:01 AM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Maybe Virginians have dangerous bars?confused

Just a thought.

Ooby....am going to be honest with you. I have lived in Central Florida for 30 years....same town. So I know it pretty well....and sadly it knows me pretty well by now. But that is another thread and post.

Been trying to think of the times, I have seen non law enforcement officers.....carrying loaded hand guns ...in the open. I know they can get concealed permits and many do.

In that 30 years of time.....I cannot say that I have seen it more twice.

Maybe old Virgina is different. I know that they use to have a honored tradition for dueling. And if that is what law is meant to reengage....yes it should be reversed. But I suspect that you will see few open handgun carried into bars or elsewhere.

Why?

Well when sitting on a bar stool, with your weapon holstered and elbows on the bar sipping your favorite Nihi or Beer of choice.....
having the weapon taken from your holster and used against you....is pretty easy to do.
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Jul 2, 2010 9:12 AM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
Quite a few of those Mass-Shootings in Bars and Restaurants could have been stopped pretty quick,if some of the Patrons had been packing!
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Jul 2, 2010 9:36 AM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
ttom500: Maybe Virginians have dangerous bars?

Just a thought.

Ooby....am going to be honest with you. I have lived in Central Florida for 30 years....same town. So I know it pretty well....and sadly it knows me pretty well by now. But that is another thread and post.

Been trying to think of the times, I have seen non law enforcement officers.....carrying loaded hand guns ...in the open. I know they can get concealed permits and many do.

In that 30 years of time.....I cannot say that I have seen it more twice.

Maybe old Virgina is different. I know that they use to have a honored tradition for dueling. And if that is what law is meant to reengage....yes it should be reversed. But I suspect that you will see few open handgun carried into bars or elsewhere.

Why?

Well when sitting on a bar stool, with your weapon holstered and elbows on the bar sipping your favorite Nihi or Beer of choice.....
having the weapon taken from your holster and used against you....is pretty easy to do.
The thing that I wonder about (I'm not worried about it cause I basically don't give a s__t) is the guy who just by virtue of the fact it is now legal, will decide to excersize his 2nd Amendment right and go to his local watering hole with his gun just on general principals (like that guy that brought an assault rifle to a townhall meeting or something). People start drinking, inhibitions diminish, tempers flair, a fight breaks out (happens all the time) and somebodies husband and/or father, sole provider, dies en route to the ER.
And for what? To prove a point?

If you need to bring a loaded gun to a bar, maybe it's the wrong bar.
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Jul 2, 2010 9:38 AM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
Conrad73: Invisibility-Cloak?
SHHHHT!No one's supposed to know about thathole
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Jul 2, 2010 9:43 AM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
Bullets don't kill people, the gunpowder does...dunno
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Jul 2, 2010 9:44 AM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
Grandepensees: SHHHHT!No one's supposed to know about that
Ouch,didn't mean to blab your secret!grin
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Jul 2, 2010 9:45 AM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
Grandepensees: Bullets don't kill people, the gunpowder does...
ideaGunpowderless Cartridges! professor
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Jul 2, 2010 9:47 AM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
Conrad73: Gunpowderless Cartridges!
They have sting guns, darts are non-lethal and some of those tranks can know someone out in seconds.
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Jul 2, 2010 9:50 AM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
Conrad73: Gunpowderless Cartridges!
also known as Pffffft-Loads!rolling on the floor laughing
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Jul 2, 2010 9:58 AM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
ooby_dooby: Thanks to the efforts of our new Republican Governor, effective today, in my state of Virginia, you can bring a loaded gun into a bar.

Isn't this just a wonderful example of common sense being subjugated by idealism?

The bright side is that when some idiot gets plastered, he stands a better chance of getting shot before he gets the opportunity to endanger the rest of us by getting behind the wheel of a 4000 lb unguided missle.


OOBY .....Maybe we should capitoloze on that and market all new sporty Bar-apparel - Kevlar Vests for drinking ? thumbs up beer laugh
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Jul 2, 2010 9:58 AM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
Conrad73: also known as Pffffft-Loads!
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Jul 2, 2010 11:26 AM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
ooby_dooby: The thing that I wonder about (I'm not worried about it cause I basically don't give a s__t) is the guy who just by virtue of the fact it is now legal, will decide to excersize his 2nd Amendment right and go to his local watering hole with his gun just on general principals (like that guy that brought an assault rifle to a townhall meeting or something). People start drinking, inhibitions diminish, tempers flair, a fight breaks out (happens all the time) and somebodies husband and/or father, sole provider, dies en route to the ER.
And for what? To prove a point?

If you need to bring a loaded gun to a bar, maybe it's the wrong bar.
Hi ya ooby, I posted the requirements needed to be met before one can carry a concealed weapon for a reason. You, this nation, is not apt to see a licensed person snap, like you say, because that same person knows there are concealed weapons all around him. Those old western movies were certainly good, and kept your attention, but the historic details, representations, were a bit stretched.

What you mentioned has an "assault weapon" was in fact an AR15, semi automatic rifle, unable to fire automatically, and is not an assault rifle. BOO, scared ya, 'cause it looks like an M16.

"The same protester told KNXV separately, "I'm exercising my rights as an American in Arizona."

The protester was among a dozen other demonstrators carrying unconcealed guns outside the Obama event.

Hancock, who said he was packing a 9-millimeter Beretta pistol, added that Phoenix police had known about the group's intent to protest while carrying guns.

"They are the ones standing a few feet away from us" at Monday's protest, Hancock said. "Oftentimes, the citizenry are better armed than law enforcement -- they need us on their side."


laugh This is kinda like swatting flies.
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Jul 2, 2010 11:41 AM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
alfibarios
alfibariosalfibariosaegion, Peloponnese Greece4 Threads 289 Posts

my friend i dont know what kind of guns , this list is about, but cause of my relation to the guns , as an army gunsmith , here in grece pistols and any kind of handguns are not allowed by the state.
maybe the list is about shotguns ,the only kind law allows to have in greece.ofcourse there is a number of illigal fire pieces , but not so big as ur list writes.cheers
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Jul 2, 2010 11:42 AM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
Raynew1959
Raynew1959Raynew1959Barrington, New Hampshire USA120 Threads 2 Polls 2,218 Posts
Conrad73: Break them down!
That Number is deceiving!
Most likely contains all the Policeshootings,Selfdefense-Shootings!
Plus all the Gangrelated stuff.
How many Firearms were Legal that were involved in those Deaths!
Mark Twain:"There are Lies,Damned Lies,and there are Statistics!"
thumbs up
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Jul 2, 2010 12:03 PM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
alfibarios: my friend i dont know what kind of guns , this list is about, but cause of my relation to the guns , as an army gunsmith , here in grece pistols and any kind of handguns are not allowed by the state.
maybe the list is about shotguns ,the only kind law allows to have in greece.ofcourse there is a number of illigal fire pieces , but not so big as ur list writes.
Possibly Collectors Pieces and all!
The Swiss-Amount is probably under the Real number!laugh
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Jul 2, 2010 12:09 PM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
alfibarios
alfibariosalfibariosaegion, Peloponnese Greece4 Threads 289 Posts
Conrad73: Possibly Collectors Pieces and all!
The Swiss-Amount is probably under the Real number!

yes but in ur country u have ur army guns at home ,if i am not wrong,here i could earn a lot of money if the state allowed possession of firearms.as a gunsmith i mean.cheers
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Jul 2, 2010 12:14 PM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
anonymous1
anonymous1anonymous1Hawaii, USA10 Threads 1 Polls 1,649 Posts
Grandepensees: So how come I'm still alive then, hum? Tell me






I've been shot two times, in two different states.

The second time I was shot, I was jumping out of a truck going 50 mph.

I've even been stabbed once

I'm still alive.






OBTW, The guy who stabbed me, and one of the guys who shot me, were both drunk at the time.
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Jul 2, 2010 12:25 PM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
alfibarios
alfibariosalfibariosaegion, Peloponnese Greece4 Threads 289 Posts
anonymous1: I've been shot two times, in two different states.

The second time I was shot, I was jumping out of a truck going 50 mph.

I've even been stabbed once

I'm still alive.
OBTW, The guy who stabbed me, and one of the guys who shot me, were both drunk at the time.

very gangerous life style u got my friendrolling on the floor laughing
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Jul 2, 2010 12:26 PM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
alfibarios
alfibariosalfibariosaegion, Peloponnese Greece4 Threads 289 Posts
dangerous i meant not gangerous .sorry typo
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Jul 2, 2010 4:28 PM CST Gun Powder & Alcohol don't mix
anonymous1
anonymous1anonymous1Hawaii, USA10 Threads 1 Polls 1,649 Posts
alfibarios: very gangerous life style u got my friend







Instead of going to high school... I grew up as a homeless teenager, on the streets of one of the worst neighborhoods in Los Angeles.
I lived a dangerous life.
I moved to Hawaii, with $10, and a one way ticket; when I was 20.
Most of my childhood friends were dead, by the time I turned 25.



I'm 50 now; I have not spent much time off of the island of Hawaii, in the last 25 years.
It's been a long time, since I looked down the barrel of a gun, or fought a man, who had a knife.

Now, I live in a peaceful life, in a tropical paradise, full of friendly people.
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