There's a huge whale in the Gulf of Mexico (24)
ooby_dooby: And, it has a taste for crude oil!
PS I bought some BP stock the other day.
PS I bought some BP stock the other day.
Unbelievable bureaucracy: Too little tooooo late!
"The ship arrived in the Gulf on Wednesday, but officials have wanted to test its capability as well as have the federal Environmental Protection Agency sign off on the water it will pump back into the gulf. Although the ship cleans most of the oil from seawater, trace amounts of crude remain."
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So sadly typical!
I still can't believe the moroons are burning it1
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lifeisadream: Unbelievable bureaucracy: Too little tooooo late!
"The ship arrived in the Gulf on Wednesday, but officials have wanted to test its capability as well as have the federal Environmental Protection Agency sign off on the water it will pump back into the gulf. Although the ship cleans most of the oil from seawater, trace amounts of crude remain."
Amazing isn't it? Even if half the oil was still in the water they dump back into the gulf it's still better than nothing. All you can do is shake your head at the stupidity of people in high places. Makes you wonder how the hell they got that far. Oh wait, I know how, it's called the "Peter Principal". Look it up."The ship arrived in the Gulf on Wednesday, but officials have wanted to test its capability as well as have the federal Environmental Protection Agency sign off on the water it will pump back into the gulf. Although the ship cleans most of the oil from seawater, trace amounts of crude remain."
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ooby_dooby: Amazing isn't it? Even if half the oil was still in the water they dump back into the gulf it's still better than nothing. All you can do is shake your head at the stupidity of people in high places.
I don't think that taking a few days or a week to assess it's capabilities is wrong. if it doesn't work that well then they will need more ships to do it with and, if it works really good then fewer will have to be diverted from other spills.
Works both ways. If it were simply deemed to be the perfect tool then no other ships would be required and, in a month or so, to find out it doesn't work that great is too late to have a plan 'b' so, better to know exactly what it can do prior to assigning or, unassigning resources.
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Albertaghost: I don't think that taking a few days or a week to assess it's capabilities is wrong. if it doesn't work that well then they will need more ships to do it with and, if it works really good then fewer will have to be diverted from other spills.
Works both ways. If it were simply deemed to be the perfect tool then no other ships would be required and, in a month or so, to find out it doesn't work that great is too late to have a plan 'b' so, better to know exactly what it can do prior to assigning or, unassigning resources.
Like the Army Corps Of Engineers?Works both ways. If it were simply deemed to be the perfect tool then no other ships would be required and, in a month or so, to find out it doesn't work that great is too late to have a plan 'b' so, better to know exactly what it can do prior to assigning or, unassigning resources.
Taking months to assess Jindal's Proposal,then finally rejecting it,saying the environmental Impact is too great!
What about the Impact of the Oil?
What kind of Morons put those Idiots in place?
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ooby_dooby: Amazing isn't it? Even if half the oil was still in the water they dump back into the gulf it's still better than nothing. All you can do is shake your head at the stupidity of people in high places. Makes you wonder how the hell they got that far. Oh wait, I know how, it's called the "Peter Principal". Look it up.
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Conrad73: Like the Army Corps Of Engineers?
Taking months to assess Jindal's Proposal,then finally rejecting it,saying the environmental Impact is too great!
Taking months to assess Jindal's Proposal,then finally rejecting it,saying the environmental Impact is too great!
no, sort of like exactly what I said. If it works really well, less resources have to be taken away from places where they are better suited. If it doesn't work that well then less have to be taken away and, can be assigned to areas where they are more needed. Like this is not the only spill in the world and, certainly not even close to being the worst and, there will always be others so, resources are still needed in other places.
As well, the ship doesn't run on goodwill but rather money. Who is paying and how much? how much oil can it pick up and how are they being paid and by whom? We know both BP and the US government has money as do the insurance companies however, how much oil can this thing pick up at what water/oil ratio? Will it get paid more for more oil concentrations or less? Will it need to do two passes and how much time will each pass take and is the second pass, if applicable cost the same or less even though the ship is still clocking time?
Conrad73:
What about the Impact of the Oil?
What kind of Morons put those Idiots in place?
What about the Impact of the Oil?
What kind of Morons put those Idiots in place?
Ihave no idea of what the charge is going to be per day for this contraption however, am sure it will be huge. In that way, it is better off picking up large amounts of oil rather than less hence, the cure onshore may prove less expensive in the long run than prevention closer to the actual source. But, we don't know that since we don't know how much this thing can pick up do we?
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Albertaghost: no, sort of like exactly what I said. If it works really well, less resources have to be taken away from places where they are better suited. If it doesn't work that well then less have to be taken away and, can be assigned to areas where they are more needed. Like this is not the only spill in the world and, certainly not even close to being the worst and, there will always be others so, resources are still needed in other places.
As well, the ship doesn't run on goodwill but rather money. Who is paying and how much? how much oil can it pick up and how are they being paid and by whom? We know both BP and the US government has money as do the insurance companies however, how much oil can this thing pick up at what water/oil ratio? Will it get paid more for more oil concentrations or less? Will it need to do two passes and how much time will each pass take and is the second pass, if applicable cost the same or less even though the ship is still clocking time?
Ihave no idea of what the charge is going to be per day for this contraption however, am sure it will be huge. In that way, it is better off picking up large amounts of oil rather than less hence, the cure onshore may prove less expensive in the long run than prevention closer to the actual source. But, we don't know that since we don't know how much this thing can pick up do we?
I was talking mainly about the Berms that were never put up,because of "Environmental Concerns"!As well, the ship doesn't run on goodwill but rather money. Who is paying and how much? how much oil can it pick up and how are they being paid and by whom? We know both BP and the US government has money as do the insurance companies however, how much oil can this thing pick up at what water/oil ratio? Will it get paid more for more oil concentrations or less? Will it need to do two passes and how much time will each pass take and is the second pass, if applicable cost the same or less even though the ship is still clocking time?
Ihave no idea of what the charge is going to be per day for this contraption however, am sure it will be huge. In that way, it is better off picking up large amounts of oil rather than less hence, the cure onshore may prove less expensive in the long run than prevention closer to the actual source. But, we don't know that since we don't know how much this thing can pick up do we?
Sure glad Oil doesn't spoil the Wetlands as bad as a Sandberm does.
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Conrad73: I was talking mainly about the Berms that were never put up,because of "Environmental Concerns"!
Sure glad Oil doesn't spoil the Wetlands as bad as a Sandberm does.
Sure glad Oil doesn't spoil the Wetlands as bad as a Sandberm does.
Sorry. You compared the testing to that so I naturally thought you disagreed with their actions.
The berm/environmental study was BS however, in an administration known for being exactly as Obama was in that he always simply voted 'present' rather than taking a stand, this is no surprise. When faced with a need for action, it falls apart.
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Albertaghost: Sorry. You compared the testing to that so I naturally thought you disagreed with their actions.
The berm/environmental study was BS however, in an administration known for being exactly as Obama was in that he always simply voted 'present' rather than taking a stand, this is no surprise. When faced with a need for action, it falls apart.
The Empty Suit!The berm/environmental study was BS however, in an administration known for being exactly as Obama was in that he always simply voted 'present' rather than taking a stand, this is no surprise. When faced with a need for action, it falls apart.
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Albertaghost: I don't think that taking a few days or a week to assess it's capabilities is wrong. if it doesn't work that well then they will need more ships to do it with and, if it works really good then fewer will have to be diverted from other spills.
Works both ways. If it were simply deemed to be the perfect tool then no other ships would be required and, in a month or so, to find out it doesn't work that great is too late to have a plan 'b' so, better to know exactly what it can do prior to assigning or, unassigning resources.
You have completely missed the point. Read this very slowly and let it sink in.Works both ways. If it were simply deemed to be the perfect tool then no other ships would be required and, in a month or so, to find out it doesn't work that great is too late to have a plan 'b' so, better to know exactly what it can do prior to assigning or, unassigning resources.
"as well as have the federal Environmental Protection Agency sign off on the water it will pump back into the gulf. Although the ship cleans most of the oil from seawater, trace amounts of crude remain."
Who gives a F__K if trace amounts of oil get dumped back into the Gulf HELLO! If the ship can take out a gallon of oil and dump back a teaspoonful does it not sound like success?
You sound like a typical bureaucrat. Do you work for the Canadian gov?
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ooby_dooby: Amazing isn't it? Even if half the oil was still in the water they dump back into the gulf it's still better than nothing. All you can do is shake your head at the stupidity of people in high places. Makes you wonder how the hell they got that far. Oh wait, I know how, it's called the "Peter Principal". Look it up.
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ooby_dooby: You have completely missed the point. Read this very slowly and let it sink in.
"as well as have the federal Environmental Protection Agency sign off on the water it will pump back into the gulf. Although the ship cleans most of the oil from seawater, trace amounts of crude remain."
Who gives a F__K if trace amounts of oil get dumped back into the Gulf HELLO! If the ship can take out a gallon of oil and dump back a teaspoonful does it not sound like success?
You sound like a typical bureaucrat. Do you work for the Canadian gov?
"as well as have the federal Environmental Protection Agency sign off on the water it will pump back into the gulf. Although the ship cleans most of the oil from seawater, trace amounts of crude remain."
Who gives a F__K if trace amounts of oil get dumped back into the Gulf HELLO! If the ship can take out a gallon of oil and dump back a teaspoonful does it not sound like success?
You sound like a typical bureaucrat. Do you work for the Canadian gov?
We are not talking gallons reduced to a teaspoon....... I believe it would be more like a gallon reduced to something weighing nanograms (one billionth of a gram) or something which can fit within the eye of a micro-sewing needle.
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ooby_dooby: Amazing isn't it? Even if half the oil was still in the water they dump back into the gulf it's still better than nothing. All you can do is shake your head at the stupidity of people in high places. Makes you wonder how the hell they got that far. Oh wait, I know how, it's called the "Peter Principal". Look it up.
Ooby Dooby
Brainless people! or Stupid people as the Brit Steve would say!
By the way we already have change the name for the "Gulf of Mexico" in another thread to "Gulf of USico" but still is not definitive in case someone comes with a better idea but please clean it first.
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ooby_dooby: You have completely missed the point. Read this very slowly and let it sink in.
"as well as have the federal Environmental Protection Agency sign off on the water it will pump back into the gulf. Although the ship cleans most of the oil from seawater, trace amounts of crude remain."
Who gives a F__K if trace amounts of oil get dumped back into the Gulf HELLO! If the ship can take out a gallon of oil and dump back a teaspoonful does it not sound like success?
You sound like a typical bureaucrat. Do you work for the Canadian gov?
"as well as have the federal Environmental Protection Agency sign off on the water it will pump back into the gulf. Although the ship cleans most of the oil from seawater, trace amounts of crude remain."
Who gives a F__K if trace amounts of oil get dumped back into the Gulf HELLO! If the ship can take out a gallon of oil and dump back a teaspoonful does it not sound like success?
You sound like a typical bureaucrat. Do you work for the Canadian gov?
yes and this is the same reason why many people dont want a govt bureaucrat anywhere near health care decisions, it just their natural way
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Conrad you might want to do a teeny little tiny bit of research on the berms jindal wants, you just may find out that his berms will KILL the life in the wetlands because they block off the needed tides. If the wetlands don't get the tides they essentially suffocate. But what the heck lets kill the wetlands with jindal's berms even if the oil doesn't get to them.
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rickjc25: Conrad you might want to do a teeny little tiny bit of research on the berms jindal wants, you just may find out that his berms will KILL the life in the wetlands because they block off the needed tides. If the wetlands don't get the tides they essentially suffocate. But what the heck lets kill the wetlands with jindal's berms even if the oil doesn't get to them.
Tides don't only bring in water from the Surface,not even in Florida!Sit near the Sore next Hurricane,and watch where the water comes from!
Or just look at a Well ebbing and Flowing with the Tide!
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ooby_dooby: You have completely missed the point. Read this very slowly and let it sink in.
"as well as have the federal Environmental Protection Agency sign off on the water it will pump back into the gulf. Although the ship cleans most of the oil from seawater, trace amounts of crude remain."
Who gives a F__K if trace amounts of oil get dumped back into the Gulf HELLO! If the ship can take out a gallon of oil and dump back a teaspoonful does it not sound like success?
"as well as have the federal Environmental Protection Agency sign off on the water it will pump back into the gulf. Although the ship cleans most of the oil from seawater, trace amounts of crude remain."
Who gives a F__K if trace amounts of oil get dumped back into the Gulf HELLO! If the ship can take out a gallon of oil and dump back a teaspoonful does it not sound like success?
I didn't miss the second point at all and like yourself, find that a ludicrous concern however, they still have to see how much area and to what quality it can clean so as to properly allocate resources. If you will note, I responded to the complete quote and concentrated on the initial point of; "The ship arrived in the Gulf on Wednesday, but officials have wanted to test its capability"
ooby_dooby: You sound like a typical bureaucrat. Do you work for the Canadian gov?
No, I am self employed and do nicely thanks. And you? Wondering, are you angry that they wish to access the contraption's capabilities for the various reasons I explained or just randomly lashing out at other posters?
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