For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power? ( Archived) (37)

Jul 14, 2010 9:06 AM CST For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power?
ChasingCars
ChasingCarsChasingCarsCrappy Thrappy, Northamptonshire, England UK26 Threads 5 Polls 1,006 Posts
In response to: For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power?


I have been thinking about this and the answer is yes. There's the one that does strange things to laundry - which manages to hide odd socks in the wash basket, washing machine, drier and sock drawer despite the most diligence of looking and care.
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Jul 14, 2010 9:08 AM CST For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power?
Sampe1967: For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power? whether it is of a God, a Devil, a witch, a magician, necromancer, or what ever he, she or it may be called. what do you think?


NO.
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Jul 14, 2010 9:10 AM CST For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power?
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
Sampe1967: so which of these is asier to believe. Darwin's theory on the origin of life or the bible's account of a deity that spoke things into being, with an intelegent design?


Darwin's theory gets my vote...it's logical.
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Jul 14, 2010 9:15 AM CST For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power?
Ladybee42
Ladybee42Ladybee42East Liverpool, Ohio USA4 Threads 1,316 Posts
Sampe1967: whether it is of a God, a Devil, a witch, a magician, necromancer, or what ever he, she or it may be called. what do you think?


i'm not so insecure that i feel there is a need for
any 'higher being' or some kind of 'magic' guiding
everything, life is what it is and i accept that.
you will find atheists and agnostics have thought
long and hard about what they do and don't believe in.
it isn't a view that they have accepted from birth or
that someone has 'sold' them as a comfort blanket.
they are not heartless people that don't care about anyone,
they tend to be well educated a fact which tends to really
piss the usual bible enthusiasts off.wine bouquet
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Jul 14, 2010 2:30 PM CST For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power?
bjk68
bjk68bjk68Carlow, Ireland5 Threads 890 Posts
Dagosto: Yes. The doctors were wrong.
Yes. Vsuncal is right.

58


You'd be surprised just how often the DOCTORS get it wrong, and more over badly wrong
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Jul 14, 2010 2:31 PM CST For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power?
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
Conrad73: Origin of Species,NOT Origin Of Life!
If you want to discuss it,please get it right!
And Science is definitely not your strong point it seems!Besides that,you have a very low opinion of your Own God,if you think He's going to break the very Laws he's set down to govern the Universe!

You believers are consistently Inconsistent!
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Jul 14, 2010 2:31 PM CST For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power?
bjk68
bjk68bjk68Carlow, Ireland5 Threads 890 Posts
Steve5721: Darwin's theory gets my vote...it's logical.


Time and time again, Steve... At least there's logic proof for the evolution theory, as opposed to blind hope/faiththumbs up
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Jul 14, 2010 10:43 PM CST For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power?
Sampe1967
Sampe1967Sampe1967Black River, Saint Elizabeth Jamaica56 Threads 3 Polls 628 Posts
here is a testimony from an Atheist reformed. A PHD professor in the science whom i believe should know this more than any of you
Steve5721: Darwin's theory gets my vote...it's logical.
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Jul 14, 2010 10:53 PM CST For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power?
Barrellofart
BarrellofartBarrellofartGrand Rapids, Michigan USA16 Threads 9 Polls 761 Posts
Sampe1967: here is a testimony from an Atheist reformed. A PHD professor in the science whom i believe should know this more than any of you



thumbs down
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Jul 14, 2010 11:19 PM CST For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power?
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Un-natural? Do you mean supernatural? Un-natural implies a negation of nature, whereas supernatural implies rules outside of nature.

In either case, science is concerned with natural philosophy, not the mumbo-jumbo that the priest class insist is their sole demesne. Whether you classify this as "un-natural", "supernatural", "paranormal" or "quasi-significant" the answer will have to be no in my case.

"Don't you believe in flying saucers, they ask me? Don't you believe in telepathy? — in ancient astronauts? — in the Bermuda triangle? — in life after death?
No, I reply. No, no, no, no, and again no.
One person recently, goaded into desperation by the litany of unrelieved negation, burst out "Don't you believe in anything?"
"Yes", I said. "I believe in evidence. I believe in observation, measurement, and reasoning, confirmed by independent observers. I'll believe anything, no matter how wild and ridiculous, if there is evidence for it. The wilder and more ridiculous something is, however, the firmer and more solid the evidence will have to be." - The Roving Mind (1983), Isaac Asimov

To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains premature today. - Essay "The “Threat” of Creationism" Isaac Asimov, New York Times Magazine, 14 June 1981 reprinted Science and Creationism (1984); M. F. Ashley Montagu (Editor) .
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Jul 14, 2010 11:21 PM CST For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power?
Sampe1967
Sampe1967Sampe1967Black River, Saint Elizabeth Jamaica56 Threads 3 Polls 628 Posts
you read it, explain you actions. if you didn't read it. you are a barrellofart
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Jul 15, 2010 1:45 AM CST For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power?
CaySea
CaySeaCaySeaFollow the yellow brick road, Western Australia Australia15 Threads 923 Posts
Sampe1967: so which of these is asier to believe. Darwin's theory on the origin of life or the bible's account of a deity that spoke things into being, with an intelegent design?


Well Darwin theorised a theory of evolution which in so far as I am aware still holds true with all the advances in science including gene sequencing. If you wish to go into creation vs big bang well you must then ask what made god.

I am at a loss as to why the church fights science on topics that have such strong evidence to counter them. Just look back to the where the ideas of a flat earth and the earth being the centre of the universe got them.
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Jul 15, 2010 1:52 AM CST For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power?
Ladybee42
Ladybee42Ladybee42East Liverpool, Ohio USA4 Threads 1,316 Posts
Sampe1967: you read it, explain you actions. if you didn't read it. you are a barrellofart


he is indeed a barrell of art grin
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Jul 15, 2010 2:06 AM CST For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power?
ballerina9
ballerina9ballerina9belfast, Antrim Ireland1,404 Posts
ChasingCars: I have been thinking about this and the answer is yes. There's the one that does strange things to laundry - which manages to hide odd socks in the wash basket, washing machine, drier and sock drawer despite the most diligence of looking and care.
its a gremlin...you got the same one as me...hes a rite wee bi*ch grrr!!crazy giggle
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Jul 15, 2010 2:19 AM CST For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power?
Sampe1967: here is a testimony from an Atheist reformed. A PHD professor in the science whom i believe should know this more than any of you






popcorn
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Jul 15, 2010 2:20 AM CST For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power?
Sampe1967: you read it, explain you actions. if you didn't read it. you are a barrellofart
scold not very Original!
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Jul 15, 2010 9:38 AM CST For the Atheists, Is there any kind of un-natural power?
K_rational
K_rationalK_rationalTaipei, Taiwan10 Threads 257 Posts
Sampe1967: whether it is of a God, a Devil, a witch, a magician, necromancer, or what ever he, she or it may be called. what do you think?


Until one is proven, none exist.

That includes your mythology and any others.

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