RobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK4,553 posts
morgan5: Just watched it on the news, doesn't suprize me just sickens me.
Someone somewhere authorised this release of data.There is no such thing as a leak of this magnitude to reflect on the Success or failure, however it is perceived, from whatever perspective it is view from.
What it does add though is add weight to the politicians, and clearly the media and the populace will see this and seek backing for a faster withdrawal from the theatre without lowering popularity any further.
It's cynical but effective releasing of data outside normal channels.And this cannot be explained away by decent journalism, one whistle blower, nor someone of conscience seeking to rectify someones credibility.
This comes from up on high, and is no accident.....it's designed to bolster public popularity from the region without conceding military failure.
RobbieM: Someone somewhere authorised this release of data.There is no such thing as a leak of this magnitude to reflect on the Success or failure, however it is perceived, from whatever perspective it is view from.
What it does add though is add weight to the politicians, and clearly the media and the populace will see this and seek backing for a faster withdrawal from the theatre without lowering popularity any further.
It's cynical but effective releasing of data outside normal channels.And this cannot be explained away by decent journalism, one whistle blower, nor someone of conscience seeking to rectify someones credibility.
This comes from up on high, and is no accident.....it's designed to bolster public popularity from the region without conceding military failure.
Boban1OPbigplace, Central Serbia Serbia18,789 posts
RobbieM: Someone somewhere authorised this release of data.There is no such thing as a leak of this magnitude to reflect on the Success or failure, however it is perceived, from whatever perspective it is view from.
What it does add though is add weight to the politicians, and clearly the media and the populace will see this and seek backing for a faster withdrawal from the theatre without lowering popularity any further.
It's cynical but effective releasing of data outside normal channels.And this cannot be explained away by decent journalism, one whistle blower, nor someone of conscience seeking to rectify someones credibility.
This comes from up on high, and is no accident.....it's designed to bolster public popularity from the region without conceding military failure.
Boban, may be you can share similar stories... I can only feel with you, guys, for everything the ordinary people had to go through these past 15 - 16 years...
RobbieM: Someone somewhere authorised this release of data.There is no such thing as a leak of this magnitude to reflect on the Success or failure, however it is perceived, from whatever perspective it is view from.
What it does add though is add weight to the politicians, and clearly the media and the populace will see this and seek backing for a faster withdrawal from the theatre without lowering popularity any further.
It's cynical but effective releasing of data outside normal channels.And this cannot be explained away by decent journalism, one whistle blower, nor someone of conscience seeking to rectify someones credibility.
This comes from up on high, and is no accident.....it's designed to bolster public popularity from the region without conceding military failure.
Definitely can't squirrel that much Stuff out in your Socks,transfer to USB or send out on Line without being noticed by Security.Interesting it Coincides with Midterm-Elections in the States! Some serious Skullduggery somewhere!
Boban1OPbigplace, Central Serbia Serbia18,789 posts
Phyladelphia: Boban, may be you can share similar stories... I can only feel with you, guys, for everything the ordinary people had to go through these past 15 - 16 years...
Conrad73: Definitely can't squirrel that much Stuff out in your Socks,transfer to USB or send out on Line without being noticed by Security.Interesting it Coincides with Midterm-Elections in the States! Some serious Skullduggery somewhere!
Unless is was the Armani suit brigade leaking it themselves.
RobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK4,553 posts
Phoenix: I'm with you 100% Robbie...............
Anyone with any experience in dealing with classified military document will confirm that it will be impossible for you to walk out the door with the means to copy, even electronically without detection, say for example 1000 Defence Intelligence Agency documents.
You just cant receive this quantity of documents, without compromising agents, and methods of collection which will directly affect an Intelligence Agencies ability to protect it's methods and sources.
It's typical political posturing, and anyone who inspects the materials will find plenty of stories and blind alleys to go down.
But expecting me to believe 400,000 documents were leaked, without affecting sources or methods, if the documents haven't been censored is unbelievable.
Add to that the handlers inability to check the data to see if any of the data would have serious consequences makes me go in just one direction, I.E someone has ordered this release of documents, it's not a leak.
RobbieM: Anyone with any experience in dealing with classified military document will confirm that it will be impossible for you to walk out the door with the means to copy, even electronically without detection, say for example 1000 Defence Intelligence Agency documents.
You just cant receive this quantity of documents, without compromising agents, and methods of collection which will directly affect an Intelligence Agencies ability to protect it's methods and sources.
It's typical political posturing, and anyone who inspects the materials will find plenty of stories and blind alleys to go down.
But expecting me to believe 400,000 documents were leaked, without affecting sources or methods, if the documents haven't been censored is unbelievable.
Add to that the handlers inability to check the data to see if any of the data would have serious consequences makes me go in just one direction, I.E someone has ordered this release of documents, it's not a leak.
I agree, but how does all this reconcile with the posturing this evening of US politicians, Hilary Clinton for one, who has condemned the leaks stating it puts overseas troops at risk?
RobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK4,553 posts
Conrad73: Definitely can't squirrel that much Stuff out in your Socks,transfer to USB or send out on Line without being noticed by Security.Interesting it Coincides with Midterm-Elections in the States! Some serious Skullduggery somewhere!
Logs are kept of all files being copied, and compartmentalised.
So to put it bluntly, it cant happen without someone authorising it.
It's political in nature, and generally one agency is generally blamed publicly, when in reality something else happens in private.
Basically standard operating procedure will guarantee this type of thing is impossible, by accident.
Conrad73: Definitely can't squirrel that much Stuff out in your Socks,transfer to USB or send out on Line without being noticed by Security.Interesting it Coincides with Midterm-Elections in the States!Some serious Skullduggery somewhere!
I thought the same thing when I seen it on the news this morning. I agree with Morgan. The whole thing sickens me. War is ugly. They did say on my news this morning it was not going to add to the United States popularity in a good way around the world. I feel hated enough. Even though people I have met from other countries are nice to me.
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