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Oct 23, 2010 5:15 PM CST WikiLeaks
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
what`s your opinion about it????

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Oct 23, 2010 5:16 PM CST WikiLeaks
morgan5
morgan5morgan5chelmsford, Essex, England UK87 Threads 8,237 Posts
Just watched it on the news, doesn't suprize me just sickens me.
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Oct 23, 2010 5:18 PM CST WikiLeaks
JAN_is
JAN_isJAN_isMurcia city centre, Murcia Spain109 Threads 3,849 Posts
morgan5: Just watched it on the news, doesn't suprize me just sickens me.


thumbs up Me too. I´ve been following it this evening and watched some of the footage.

This thread isn´t going to have a happy ending though Boban. wave
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Oct 23, 2010 5:20 PM CST WikiLeaks
darren9030
darren9030darren9030Peterborough, Cambridgeshire, England UK56 Threads 1 Polls 9,665 Posts
morgan5: Just watched it on the news, doesn't suprize me just sickens me.



Is that link clickable at work or something i shouldn't view laugh
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Oct 23, 2010 5:25 PM CST WikiLeaks
darren9030
darren9030darren9030Peterborough, Cambridgeshire, England UK56 Threads 1 Polls 9,665 Posts
darren9030: Is that link clickable at work or something i shouldn't view


I risked it & bloody hell wow that is bad very mad
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Oct 23, 2010 5:27 PM CST WikiLeaks
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
morgan5: Just watched it on the news, doesn't suprize me just sickens me.


Someone somewhere authorised this release of data.There is no such thing as a leak of this magnitude to reflect on the Success or failure, however it is perceived, from whatever perspective it is view from.

What it does add though is add weight to the politicians, and clearly the media and the populace will see this and seek backing for a faster withdrawal from the theatre without lowering popularity any further.

It's cynical but effective releasing of data outside normal channels.And this cannot be explained away by decent journalism, one whistle blower, nor someone of conscience seeking to rectify someones credibility.

This comes from up on high, and is no accident.....it's designed to bolster public popularity from the region without conceding military failure.
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Oct 23, 2010 5:28 PM CST WikiLeaks
morgan5
morgan5morgan5chelmsford, Essex, England UK87 Threads 8,237 Posts
darren9030: Is that link clickable at work or something i shouldn't view
I didn't look at the link Darren, what i saw on the news was enough for me.

It happens every time a country invites itself into another country, regardless of nationality, creed or religion.
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Oct 23, 2010 5:31 PM CST WikiLeaks
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixSarkoville, Ile-de-France France110 Threads 32 Polls 2,591 Posts
RobbieM: Someone somewhere authorised this release of data.There is no such thing as a leak of this magnitude to reflect on the Success or failure, however it is perceived, from whatever perspective it is view from.

What it does add though is add weight to the politicians, and clearly the media and the populace will see this and seek backing for a faster withdrawal from the theatre without lowering popularity any further.

It's cynical but effective releasing of data outside normal channels.And this cannot be explained away by decent journalism, one whistle blower, nor someone of conscience seeking to rectify someones credibility.

This comes from up on high, and is no accident.....it's designed to bolster public popularity from the region without conceding military failure.


I'm with you 100% Robbie...............thumbs up
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Oct 23, 2010 5:32 PM CST WikiLeaks
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
RobbieM: Someone somewhere authorised this release of data.There is no such thing as a leak of this magnitude to reflect on the Success or failure, however it is perceived, from whatever perspective it is view from.

What it does add though is add weight to the politicians, and clearly the media and the populace will see this and seek backing for a faster withdrawal from the theatre without lowering popularity any further.

It's cynical but effective releasing of data outside normal channels.And this cannot be explained away by decent journalism, one whistle blower, nor someone of conscience seeking to rectify someones credibility.

This comes from up on high, and is no accident.....it's designed to bolster public popularity from the region without conceding military failure.


my guess as well...
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Oct 23, 2010 5:33 PM CST WikiLeaks
afterbam
afterbamafterbamP.A., Pennsylvania USA18 Threads 2,006 Posts
Boban1: what`s your opinion about it????




:-SS
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Oct 23, 2010 5:33 PM CST WikiLeaks
Phyladelphia
PhyladelphiaPhyladelphiaPhyladelphia, Jordan37 Posts
Boban, may be you can share similar stories...
I can only feel with you, guys, for everything the ordinary people had to go through these past 15 - 16 years...
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Oct 23, 2010 5:34 PM CST WikiLeaks
RobbieM: Someone somewhere authorised this release of data.There is no such thing as a leak of this magnitude to reflect on the Success or failure, however it is perceived, from whatever perspective it is view from.

What it does add though is add weight to the politicians, and clearly the media and the populace will see this and seek backing for a faster withdrawal from the theatre without lowering popularity any further.

It's cynical but effective releasing of data outside normal channels.And this cannot be explained away by decent journalism, one whistle blower, nor someone of conscience seeking to rectify someones credibility.

This comes from up on high, and is no accident.....it's designed to bolster public popularity from the region without conceding military failure.
Definitely can't squirrel that much Stuff out in your Socks,transfer to USB or send out on Line without being noticed by Security.Interesting it Coincides with Midterm-Elections in the States!
Some serious Skullduggery somewhere!
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Oct 23, 2010 5:35 PM CST WikiLeaks
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Phyladelphia: Boban, may be you can share similar stories...
I can only feel with you, guys, for everything the ordinary people had to go through these past 15 - 16 years...
cswelcome
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Oct 23, 2010 5:38 PM CST WikiLeaks
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixSarkoville, Ile-de-France France110 Threads 32 Polls 2,591 Posts
Conrad73: Definitely can't squirrel that much Stuff out in your Socks,transfer to USB or send out on Line without being noticed by Security.Interesting it Coincides with Midterm-Elections in the States!
Some serious Skullduggery somewhere!


Unless is was the Armani suit brigade leaking it themselves.
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Oct 23, 2010 5:42 PM CST WikiLeaks
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
Phoenix: I'm with you 100% Robbie...............


Anyone with any experience in dealing with classified military document will confirm that it will be impossible for you to walk out the door with the means to copy, even electronically without detection, say for example 1000 Defence Intelligence Agency documents.

You just cant receive this quantity of documents, without compromising agents, and methods of collection which will directly affect an Intelligence Agencies ability to protect it's methods and sources.

It's typical political posturing, and anyone who inspects the materials will find plenty of stories and blind alleys to go down.

But expecting me to believe 400,000 documents were leaked, without affecting sources or methods, if the documents haven't been censored is unbelievable.

Add to that the handlers inability to check the data to see if any of the data would have serious consequences makes me go in just one direction, I.E someone has ordered this release of documents, it's not a leak.
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Oct 23, 2010 5:43 PM CST WikiLeaks
Amity
AmityAmityDodging Daggers, Wiltshire, England UK49 Threads 6,217 Posts
cor blimey..tension...takes seat popcorn
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Oct 23, 2010 5:45 PM CST WikiLeaks
JAN_is
JAN_isJAN_isMurcia city centre, Murcia Spain109 Threads 3,849 Posts
RobbieM: Anyone with any experience in dealing with classified military document will confirm that it will be impossible for you to walk out the door with the means to copy, even electronically without detection, say for example 1000 Defence Intelligence Agency documents.

You just cant receive this quantity of documents, without compromising agents, and methods of collection which will directly affect an Intelligence Agencies ability to protect it's methods and sources.

It's typical political posturing, and anyone who inspects the materials will find plenty of stories and blind alleys to go down.

But expecting me to believe 400,000 documents were leaked, without affecting sources or methods, if the documents haven't been censored is unbelievable.

Add to that the handlers inability to check the data to see if any of the data would have serious consequences makes me go in just one direction, I.E someone has ordered this release of documents, it's not a leak.


I agree, but how does all this reconcile with the posturing this evening of US politicians, Hilary Clinton for one, who has condemned the leaks stating it puts overseas troops at risk?
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Oct 23, 2010 5:46 PM CST WikiLeaks
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
Conrad73: Definitely can't squirrel that much Stuff out in your Socks,transfer to USB or send out on Line without being noticed by Security.Interesting it Coincides with Midterm-Elections in the States!
Some serious Skullduggery somewhere!


Logs are kept of all files being copied, and compartmentalised.

So to put it bluntly, it cant happen without someone authorising it.

It's political in nature, and generally one agency is generally blamed publicly, when in reality something else happens in private.

Basically standard operating procedure will guarantee this type of thing is impossible, by accident.
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Oct 23, 2010 5:47 PM CST WikiLeaks
Happygolucky4u
Happygolucky4uHappygolucky4uTreasure Coast, Florida USA25 Threads 4 Polls 6,241 Posts
Conrad73: Definitely can't squirrel that much Stuff out in your Socks,transfer to USB or send out on Line without being noticed by Security.Interesting it Coincides with Midterm-Elections in the States!Some serious Skullduggery somewhere!
I thought the same thing when I seen it on the news this morning. I agree with Morgan. The whole thing sickens me. War is ugly. blues They did say on my news this morning it was not going to add to the United States popularity in a good way around the world. I feel hated enough. Even though people I have met from other countries are nice to me. conversing crying
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Oct 23, 2010 5:49 PM CST WikiLeaks
Phyladelphia
PhyladelphiaPhyladelphiaPhyladelphia, Jordan37 Posts
Thanks... :)
Ive been here long enough...
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