charlie2112: The constitution does not grant the same protections to enemy combatants as to American citizens.
Actually, the constitution does extend to foriegners. As long as they are apprehended by agents of the United States or on American soil. All rights & privilages are to be extended.
The only thing does not apply , is if they are Prisoners of War..And if they are Prisoners of War, they are still protected under the Geneva Convention, which the United States did in fact sign.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
trish123: I think Id best hold back on my retort to that comment - you are an obvious product of that idiot regime - its not your fault......
He legally waterboarded three guys. One of them the guy who sawed Pearl's head off and got information to stop terrorist attacks and arrest dozens of operatives in the US and out. You have a problem with that?
I suppose you would have had a problem with detaining the 19 hijackers prior to 911 as well.
Amazing. Utterly amazing.
Oh, just some insight for you. Obama doesn't get good information so he just sends drones to attack entire villages killing woman and children in the hopes he hits a Taliban leader. He also never said he would not torture when asked if he would state he would not and, furthermore, carries out rendition on regular basis. Better bash him rather than Bush as he seems to be the current threat.
RevWhiteWolf: I agree, hon. Terrorism and atrocities are not political agendas.
It's the balance of holding the monster under control while hunting the monsters that wish us harm. It's a balance and it's a fine one at that. Coming from a long line of rebels and dissenters who don't give a rip what anyone thinks, we've died for our beliefs, both religiously and militarily.
It takes common sense,logic and reasoning to keep the bad stuff at bay. This includes getting along with one another even if we disagree.
The empire will fall if we let it.America won't fall if people realize what's going on around them. I'm not an aggressive sort by nature but will defend to the end of my life to defend what is right if I must.
I love this country. I don't love its leaders, or its government. Any of them.
We supposedly invaded Iraq to "free" its people. Our troops were defending oil wells, while the Baghdad Museum was being looted of priceless artifacts of, not just Iraqi history, but HUMAN history.
Albertaghost: He legally waterboarded three guys. One of them the guy who sawed Pearl's head off and got information to stop terrorist attacks and arrest dozens of operatives in the US and out. You have a problem with that?
I suppose you would have had a problem with detaining the 19 hijackers prior to 911 as well.
Amazing. Utterly amazing.
Oh, just some insight for you. Obama doesn't get good information so he just sends drones to attack entire villages killing woman and children in the hopes he hits a Taliban leader. He also never said he would not torture when asked if he would state he would not and, furthermore, carries out rendition on regular basis. Better bash him rather than Bush as he seems to be the current threat.
Galactic_bodhi: I love this country. I don't love its leaders, or its government. Any of them.
We supposedly invaded Iraq to "free" its people. Our troops were defending oil wells, while the Baghdad Museum was being looted of priceless artifacts of, not just Iraqi history, but HUMAN history.
The oil is safe folks. "Mission Accomplished."
Yep. Our cause was noble alright.
Agreed.
I'm not fond of what was done in the Baghdad Museum. A big no no in my book. As far as I know, pieces are being returned back.How some can make so many look bad.
I think the intent to free the Iraqi people was the original intent, somewhere, something didn't go right. Wish I knew where.
I wish I had answers for you, hon. I really do. Right now, I just don't.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
paws4: Ignorance is bliss. Do you even know where the 9/11 terrorists were from ?
Fifteen of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one from Egypt (Atta), and one from Lebanon.
Yet Bush decided to attack 2 countries for the wrong reasons.
Afghanistan was stage one of the War on terror and the objective was to eliminate that country as a support vehicle for one of the world's Global terrorist organizations - mission accomplished.
Iraq was to - to stop Iraq’s Inadvertence to UNSC resolutions - to force Iraq to cease it’s violation of human rights - to stop Iraq’s material breaches of UNSC resolutions - to end Iraq’s WMD capability and aspirations - to end repression of Iraq’s civilian population - to force Iraq to return or cooperate in accounting for Kuwaiti and third country nationals - to force Iraq to return Kuwaiti property wrongfully seized by Iraq, - to end Iraqi Support for terrorism - remove Saddam as a destabilizing influence in the region as well as to place pressure on Saudi Arabia to take more aggressive action against their Qutbists.
Next stop will be Pakistan once Afghanistan is solidified.
LucieLynn: All I know is I am alive and well. I have a strong American President and military to thank for that. If that waterboarding - then that's what needs to be done.
It's really none of your business what happens in my country. Your country has many more problems.
odd, I have seen u posting about what's happening in other countries other than the US, and I believe that wasn't of your business either.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
venere08: Pity he didn't simply laugh off the weapons of mass distruction that were never found, as a big joke right from the start. But then, he did have to finish off what his daddy started, didn't he?
actually it was Clinton that started this when Congress made the official US policy towards iraq to be regime change. As for WMDs they were only part of the reason for the invasion with the rest being violations of global UNSC resolutions resulting from the Iraq invasion of Kuwait. When you stop laughing so hard you might go bone up on this subject a bit rather than get your info from a extreme left comic book.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
Galactic_bodhi: We supposedly invaded Iraq to "free" its people.
I do believbe that the stated reason was to uphold UNSC Resolutions as by carrying out US policy which was regime Change. Where on earth do you get freeing the Iraqi people as the reason?
Galactic_bodhi: Our troops were defending oil wells, while the Baghdad Museum was being looted of priceless artifacts of, not just Iraqi history, but HUMAN history.
Iraq needs revenue to survive and, they are an oil producing nation, not a giant antique store.
Galactic_bodhi: The oil is safe folks. "Mission Accomplished."
Yep. Our cause was noble alright.
The stated mission while not stated as accomplished has been.
trish123: two excuses for the same shameful behaviours more like......
War is a expensive game to play , not to mention sending people in some god forgotten country to " protect" homeland ...people are getting killed for what???
trish123: What are you going om about - do you have to use such unfriendly sarcasm or what?
I think he was going on about the asinine remark that he got laughed out of office. You might be glad he left office, but he didn't get "laughed out". He simply couldn't run again because he was maxed out on term limits. The sarcasm was probably a bit over the top though since you're not an American and obviously don't know about term limits here. That's the great thing about an international forum, though. People get to learn new things about other countries. :)
gardenhackle: I think he was going on about the asinine remark that he got laughed out of office. You might be glad he left office, but he didn't get "laughed out". He simply couldn't run again because he was maxed out on term limits. The sarcasm was probably a bit over the top though since you're not an American and obviously don't know about term limits here. That's the great thing about an international forum, though. People get to learn new things about other countries. :)
Thanks but Im sure the person could speak for themselves...... we do indeed get to learn more about others in arenas such as this - Ive personally learned to allow it to be a source of learning rather than of angst - dont worry about me but thanks all the same and as far as "being laughed out of office" I do believe thats how many in the world see Bush's demise, maybe youd like me to find some of the many videos which mercilessly make fun of his many blunders
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