national service. (87)
craig63: I served in the Royal Air Force for 5 years when leaving school and it was a great time, you learnt a trade, discipline, respect for others and self respect my only regret is that I did not sign up again. With todays kids having no discipline at home or having no respect for others should the uk and other countries bring back national service for ALL school leavers.
For me its a Yes.
For me its a Yes.
Are you by chance talking about the draft as it's been referred to here in the states?
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Ccincy: Are you by chance talking about the draft as it's been referred to here in the states?
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craig63: I served in the Royal Air Force for 5 years when leaving school and it was a great time, you learnt a trade, discipline, respect for others and self respect my only regret is that I did not sign up again. With todays kids having no discipline at home or having no respect for others should the uk and other countries bring back national service for ALL school leavers.
For me its a Yes.
For me its a Yes.
I agree. Military service in particular should be a must for everyone. They teach discipline and get values for later in life...That being said, my only problem against that is, in general, a military that is based on conscripts, has a lower quality than those that are fully volunteer.
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Ccincy: Are you by chance talking about the draft as it's been referred to here in the states?
Yea I think its the same thing, in the uk it was called National service when you served a min of 2 years in any one of the armed forces when leaving school.
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JSuburbia: I agree. Military service in particular should be a must for everyone. They teach discipline and get values for later in life...That being said, my only problem against that is, in general, a military that is based on conscripts, has a lower quality than those that are fully volunteer.
you could be right when I left school and joined the Royal Air Force the uk had stopped national service so I joined of my own free will.
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Could you imagine the youth of today getting drafted!!!!!!
Can I put ma hat on backwards?
I wanna grow ma hair!
What'd ya mean I can't listen to ma tunes.
How do these lace things work?
What????? but it's only 6am!!
I don't do walking, can't we get a bus there?
What's a book?
Where's ma x-box?
I need a 'drink'
But it's ringing!!
Oh cool. I've got a tweet.
Can I put ma hat on backwards?
I wanna grow ma hair!
What'd ya mean I can't listen to ma tunes.
How do these lace things work?
What????? but it's only 6am!!
I don't do walking, can't we get a bus there?
What's a book?
Where's ma x-box?
I need a 'drink'
But it's ringing!!
Oh cool. I've got a tweet.
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JSuburbia: I agree. Military service in particular should be a must for everyone. They teach discipline and get values for later in life...That being said, my only problem against that is, in general, a military that is based on conscripts, has a lower quality than those that are fully volunteer.
Draft is actually Involuntary Servitude!Some consider it Illegal under the US Constitution!
Matters little whether an Individual or the Collective exercises it!
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estate: Could you imagine the youth of today getting drafted!!!!!!
Can I put ma hat on backwards?
I wanna grow ma hair!
What'd ya mean I can't listen to ma tunes.
How do these lace things work?
What????? but it's only 6am!!
I don't do walking, can't we get a bus there?
What's a book?
Where's ma x-box?
I need a 'drink'
But it's ringing!!
Oh cool. I've got a tweet.
Can I put ma hat on backwards?
I wanna grow ma hair!
What'd ya mean I can't listen to ma tunes.
How do these lace things work?
What????? but it's only 6am!!
I don't do walking, can't we get a bus there?
What's a book?
Where's ma x-box?
I need a 'drink'
But it's ringing!!
Oh cool. I've got a tweet.
It should be brought back in...
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estate: Could you imagine the youth of today getting drafted!!!!!!
Can I put ma hat on backwards?
I wanna grow ma hair!
What'd ya mean I can't listen to ma tunes.
How do these lace things work?
What????? but it's only 6am!!
I don't do walking, can't we get a bus there?
What's a book?
Where's ma x-box?
I need a 'drink'
But it's ringing!!
Oh cool. I've got a tweet.
Can I put ma hat on backwards?
I wanna grow ma hair!
What'd ya mean I can't listen to ma tunes.
How do these lace things work?
What????? but it's only 6am!!
I don't do walking, can't we get a bus there?
What's a book?
Where's ma x-box?
I need a 'drink'
But it's ringing!!
Oh cool. I've got a tweet.
I understand where you are coming from but they would soon get brought into line especially if they were sent to the geenhouse where if you did not do as you where told then pay the price.
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TDRenewed: It should be brought back in...
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Conrad73: Draft is actually Involuntary Servitude!
Some consider it Illegal under the US Constitution!
Matters little whether an Individual or the Collective exercises it!http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_drft.html
Some consider it Illegal under the US Constitution!
Matters little whether an Individual or the Collective exercises it!http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_drft.html
I believe that's why they did away with it in the United States...It is however required to sign up for by law, in case of EXTREME National Emergency (basically when the President suspends the Constitution)
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Conrad73: Draft is actually Involuntary Servitude!
Some consider it Illegal under the US Constitution!
Matters little whether an Individual or the Collective exercises it!http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_drft.html
Some consider it Illegal under the US Constitution!
Matters little whether an Individual or the Collective exercises it!http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_drft.html
I am afraid my friend that is the problem with the world today
to many do gooders.
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I don't support bringing back the draft but if by chance it should reinstated it should that every and I mean every eliible son/daughter of our federal/state offices have to submit an application to join a branch of the armed serves.
It's also my feelings that if our leaders decide to reinstate the draft that they should lead by example that their own don't recieve special treatment just because their parents are in public office.
It's also my feelings that if our leaders decide to reinstate the draft that they should lead by example that their own don't recieve special treatment just because their parents are in public office.
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craig63: I understand where you are coming from but they would soon get brought into line especially if they were sent to the geenhouse where if you did not do as you where told then pay the price.
You need the Men to put a Fighting Force together,not running an Insane asylum,so a Voluntary Force is the answer,not a Chaingang!
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A resounding YES! It teaches kids discipline and to work as a team. It makes them mature and gives them skills they can use when they get a job afterwards.
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Ccincy: I don't support bringing back the draft but if by chance it should reinstated it should that every and I mean every eliible son/daughter of our federal/state offices have to submit an application to join a branch of the armed serves.
It's also my feelings that if our leaders decide to reinstate the draft that they should lead by example that their own don't recieve special treatment just because their parents are in public office.
It's also my feelings that if our leaders decide to reinstate the draft that they should lead by example that their own don't recieve special treatment just because their parents are in public office.
I agree national service or the draft should be compulsary for ALL.
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I served in the Royal Air Force too, they gave me some lovely big toys to play with. Wouldn't have missed for he world.
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Conrad73: You need the Men to put a Fighting Force together,not running an Insane asylum,so a Voluntary Force is the answer,not a Chaingang!
when it comes to discipline and respect for others and working as a unit the discipline in the greenhouse works. I saw people coming out of the green house completely different people, they came out with respect discipline and honour.
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craig63: I served in the Royal Air Force for 5 years when leaving school and it was a great time, you learnt a trade, discipline, respect for others and self respect my only regret is that I did not sign up again. With todays kids having no discipline at home or having no respect for others should the uk and other countries bring back national service for ALL school leavers.
For me its a Yes.
For me its a Yes.
It has to be a no from me - I know the pain of losing a child and dont want to ever think of any mother/father/sibling/loved one having to endure such pain - if people want to bomb each other put them on an island away from civilised people..... if they didnt have people to poke sticks at each other cos the politicians say so then there would be a lot less sons and daughters getting taken home in cold hard boxes.....
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