Listen fellow Americans..... (343)
zdeathangelzjacksonville, Florida USA22 Threads 3,743 PostsCourtesy Of The Red, White And Blue
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zdeathangelz: Courtesy Of The Red, White And Blue
Careful, when a American come into a thread made by European on America......they all leave.
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ttom500: Careful, when a American come into a thread made by European on America......they all leave.
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ttom500: I find a certain amount of humor in a thread began by a European....titled "Listen fellow Americans"...that was about American health care......that has denigrated into a discussion of the snow fall in Europe and foreign European blessings.
But glad you brought it to our attention.........
But glad you brought it to our attention.........
Are you a Native American Indian by any chance????
It is more due to the fact we all belong to the human race that I do refer to "fellow".......
"Americans", well occasionally addressed so out of pure courtesy.
Anyway, I can not remember forcing you into joining this thread, must be something in your genes that alerts your curiousity about Europe. If you have questions, feel free to ask.....
How about a thread "Listen fellow Europeans"......I enjoy people eager to understand things outside own walls.
By the way....what's weather like in FL today?
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It is a shame how the first American settlers treated the American Indians. They drove them onto Reservations. The American Indians fought back in the late 20th Century. They now own most of the Gambling Casinos in the USA and are getting rich.
Thanksgiving: A Native American View
Thanksgiving: A Native American View
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ttom500: Careful, when a American come into a thread made by European on America......they all leave.
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That was a good post by gardenhackle
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johnaustin123: It is a shame how the first American settlers treated the American Indians. They drove them onto Reservations. The American Indians fought back in the late 20th Century. They now own most of the Gambling Casinos in the USA and are getting rich.
Thanksgiving: A Native American View
Thanksgiving: A Native American View
Please John.
they are not getting rich, they are mostly being used!!!
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silentspring: Are you a Native American Indian by any chance????
It is more due to the fact we all belong to the human race that I do refer to "fellow".......
"Americans", well occasionally addressed so out of pure courtesy.Anyway, I can not remember forcing you into joining this thread, must be something in your genes that alerts your curiousity about Europe. If you have questions, feel free to ask.....
How about a thread "Listen fellow Europeans"......I enjoy people eager to understand things outside own walls.
By the way....what's weather like in FL today?
It is more due to the fact we all belong to the human race that I do refer to "fellow".......
"Americans", well occasionally addressed so out of pure courtesy.Anyway, I can not remember forcing you into joining this thread, must be something in your genes that alerts your curiousity about Europe. If you have questions, feel free to ask.....
How about a thread "Listen fellow Europeans"......I enjoy people eager to understand things outside own walls.
By the way....what's weather like in FL today?
A small part Indian, yes. Cherokee tribe. I have been to Europe more than once. And fully know my family history from the time a
impressed sailor jumped a British warship ship to get out of the war of 1816 in Baltimore. The Cherokee part came after the swim to shore.
Since I was 30 in age (1980) and in the military....my country has been a conflict 25 of the 31 years since then. Only 6 years of the last 3 decades have we not been in a conflict someplace around the globe.
So when you come to us and say.....just be part of the world...and everything will be rosy and friendly......I do question the motive. It sounds like a nice easy term of surrender to the world. Believe me when I say the Indians learned to question the motives of the first and second generation European settlers here.
You say that 25 years of conflict is your own fault. Some yes. Some no. But we have taken a oath to stay the course of our founding fathers. If that means conflict with the world....then a conflict with the world it will be. Even Jesus talks of this.
When he said you cannot serve two Gods....
You wanted to understand things outside of your own walls....well for a large number of Americans 4.5m active duty and another 13m reserve and another 20 retired military)....that comes very close to our core belief.
I say to you that the 13 in Tucson are receiving the very best trauma care in the world. I can say that because it was our military that developed most of the modern trauma procedures used for gun shot wounds. But you blow thru it and point to socialized medicine. It matters to those 13.
It matters to the near 32,000 wounded in Iraq. Here only 4000 died (11.1%). Today our 2010 Afghan military death rate to hostile fire....is at 7.3% down from 14.8% in 2008. Eventually the new military life saving methods get transfered to our civilian medical operations.
We are working very hard here and in these foreign conflicts to keep people alive. Yet we also need work in a socialized health care system? For Europe's political ideology?
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ttom500: A small part Indian, yes. Cherokee tribe. I have been to Europe more than once. And fully know my family history from the time a
impressed sailor jumped a British warship ship to get out of the war of 1816 in Baltimore. The Cherokee part came after the swim to shore.
Since I was 30 in age (1980) and in the military....my country has been a conflict 25 of the 31 years since then. Only 6 years of the last 3 decades have we not been in a conflict someplace around the globe.
So when you come to us and say.....just be part of the world...and everything will be rosy and friendly......I do question the motive. It sounds like a nice easy term of surrender to the world. Believe me when I say the Indians learned to question the motives of the first and second generation European settlers here.
You say that 25 years of conflict is your own fault. Some yes. Some no. But we have taken a oath to stay the course of our founding fathers. If that means conflict with the world....then a conflict with the world it will be. Even Jesus talks of this.
When he said you cannot serve two Gods....
You wanted to understand things outside of your own walls....well for a large number of Americans 4.5m active duty and another 13m reserve and another 20 retired military)....that comes very close to our core belief.
I say to you that the 13 in Tucson are receiving the very best trauma care in the world. I can say that because it was our military that developed most of the modern trauma procedures used for gun shot wounds. But you blow thru it and point to socialized medicine. It matters to those 13.
It matters to the near 32,000 wounded in Iraq. Here only 4000 died (11.1%). Today our 2010 Afghan military death rate to hostile fire....is at 7.3% down from 14.8% in 2008. Eventually the new military life saving methods get transfered to our civilian medical operations.
We are working very hard here and in these foreign conflicts to keep people alive. Yet we also need work in a socialized health care system? For Europe's political ideology?
impressed sailor jumped a British warship ship to get out of the war of 1816 in Baltimore. The Cherokee part came after the swim to shore.
Since I was 30 in age (1980) and in the military....my country has been a conflict 25 of the 31 years since then. Only 6 years of the last 3 decades have we not been in a conflict someplace around the globe.
So when you come to us and say.....just be part of the world...and everything will be rosy and friendly......I do question the motive. It sounds like a nice easy term of surrender to the world. Believe me when I say the Indians learned to question the motives of the first and second generation European settlers here.
You say that 25 years of conflict is your own fault. Some yes. Some no. But we have taken a oath to stay the course of our founding fathers. If that means conflict with the world....then a conflict with the world it will be. Even Jesus talks of this.
When he said you cannot serve two Gods....
You wanted to understand things outside of your own walls....well for a large number of Americans 4.5m active duty and another 13m reserve and another 20 retired military)....that comes very close to our core belief.
I say to you that the 13 in Tucson are receiving the very best trauma care in the world. I can say that because it was our military that developed most of the modern trauma procedures used for gun shot wounds. But you blow thru it and point to socialized medicine. It matters to those 13.
It matters to the near 32,000 wounded in Iraq. Here only 4000 died (11.1%). Today our 2010 Afghan military death rate to hostile fire....is at 7.3% down from 14.8% in 2008. Eventually the new military life saving methods get transfered to our civilian medical operations.
We are working very hard here and in these foreign conflicts to keep people alive. Yet we also need work in a socialized health care system? For Europe's political ideology?
Actually, I know I do not have the potential to understand much what is going on outside my own walls, matter of fact not even inside my own walls. I enjoy to find people are interested in what is going on in the world all together, however this thread came to life more of a curiosity from my side as to why people act so much against Obama, while he does talk about a wellfare package, I have heard so many americans screaming for over the years. It was confusing.
Furthermore I do not understand why you found that so hard to accept, I do not mind at all being asked questions about my country. There are many things here needed to be excused for, for example we have our own Indians. The Scandinavian "Samer" they are being pushed around like so many other groups in this world. The question is, why do we let it go on.
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silentspring: Actually, I know I do not have the potential to understand much what is going on outside my own walls, matter of fact not even inside my own walls. I enjoy to find people are interested in what is going on in the world all together, however this thread came to life more of a curiosity from my side as to why people act so much against Obama, while he does talk about a wellfare package, I have heard so many americans screaming for over the years. It was confusing.
Furthermore I do not understand why you found that so hard to accept, I do not mind at all being asked questions about my country. There are many things here needed to be excused for, for example we have our own Indians. The Scandinavian "Samer" they are being pushed around like so many other groups in this world. The question is, why do we let it go on.
Furthermore I do not understand why you found that so hard to accept, I do not mind at all being asked questions about my country. There are many things here needed to be excused for, for example we have our own Indians. The Scandinavian "Samer" they are being pushed around like so many other groups in this world. The question is, why do we let it go on.
If you have read our Constitution.....a socialized health that gave 1/6 of the US economy to the government is not there. The Founding fathers did not put it in.
Had Obama and the DEMs gone first a route for a Constitution admemendment to make a sociatlized health care system.....allowed a national debate of it....gotten the 60% Congressional vote and the 2/3 rd state approval for it.....now they have clearly a majority of American positive to the socialized medicine concept. That is a tough standard to make.
But they did not. Legislating, they over stepped their Constitution limits and 60% of the country rejected them in the mid term. Much for this reason.
This was all done without a great deal of violence....American democracy is prevailing here. The rhetoric got vitroil, yes. But it was done largely peacefully.
By the way...had they gone for the Constitution route....I likely would have supported it. But that thin little document called the Constitution is the only real document of origin, we have.
We don't and never will have a royalty here....never will have
a parlimentary system....were you can fracture the government
in 24 hours for a new one......if we don't abide by the Constitution, we don't abide at all.
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ttom500: If you have read our Constitution.....a socialized health that gave 1/6 of the US economy to the government is not there. The Founding fathers did not put it in.
Had Obama and the DEMs gone first a route for a Constitution admemendment to make a sociatlized health care system.....allowed a national debate of it....gotten the 60% Congressional vote and the 2/3 rd state approval for it.....now they have clearly a majority of American positive to the socialized medicine concept. That is a tough standard to make.
But they did not. Legislating, they over stepped their Constitution limits and 60% of the country rejected them in the mid term. Much for this reason.
This was all done without a great deal of violence....American democracy is prevailing here. The rhetoric got vitroil, yes. But it was done largely peacefully.
By the way...had they gone for the Constitution route....I likely would have supported it. But that thin little document called the Constitution is the only real document of origin, we have.
We don't and never will have a royalty here....never will have
a parlimentary system....were you can fracture the government
in 24 hours for a new one......if we don't abide by the Constitution, we don't abide at all.
Had Obama and the DEMs gone first a route for a Constitution admemendment to make a sociatlized health care system.....allowed a national debate of it....gotten the 60% Congressional vote and the 2/3 rd state approval for it.....now they have clearly a majority of American positive to the socialized medicine concept. That is a tough standard to make.
But they did not. Legislating, they over stepped their Constitution limits and 60% of the country rejected them in the mid term. Much for this reason.
This was all done without a great deal of violence....American democracy is prevailing here. The rhetoric got vitroil, yes. But it was done largely peacefully.
By the way...had they gone for the Constitution route....I likely would have supported it. But that thin little document called the Constitution is the only real document of origin, we have.
We don't and never will have a royalty here....never will have
a parlimentary system....were you can fracture the government
in 24 hours for a new one......if we don't abide by the Constitution, we don't abide at all.
Do me one favor ttom, tell me, are there any of the presidents so far in the american history, you would have wanted to rule the country now?
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silentspring: Do me one favor ttom, tell me, are there any of the presidents so far in the american history, you would have wanted to rule the country now?
You asked ttom but I'll answer my opinion.
Washington
Adams
Jefferson
Take your pic. They knew what was coming 200+ years ago.
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silentspring: Do me one favor ttom, tell me, are there any of the presidents so far in the american history, you would have wanted to rule the country now?
except,that Presidents don't rule!Congress,House and Senate rule!
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Conrad73: except,that Presidents don't rule!
Congress,House and Senate rule!
Congress,House and Senate rule!
No one rules the US. Congress makes laws. the president decides if it is in the best interest of the US and the Courts decide if it is within or without the boundaries of the Constitution.
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Actractorguy: No one rules the US. Congress makes laws. the president decides if it is in the best interest of the US and the Courts decide if it is within or without the boundaries of the Constitution.
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silentspring: Geeez Conrad........So Obama is nothing but a dummy?????
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Conrad73: Yet Congress can always overturn a Presidential Veto!
I googled for this and I think this is correct.
In the United States, Congress can override a presidential veto by having a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and Senate, thus enacting the bill into law despite the president's veto. However, a veto may not be overridden if it is a pocket veto, a veto in which the president simply ignores a bill between congressional sessions. The veto override is an example of checks and balances, the process in which various branches of the U.S. government can limit each others' power.
Many states of the U.S. have similar regulations, i.e. a state governor can veto (refuse to sign on) a bill passed by the legislature, and the legislature can override the veto. Most states require a two-thirds majority vote to override.
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Ccincy: I googled for this and I think this is correct.In the United States, Congress can override a presidential veto by having a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and Senate, thus enacting the bill into law despite the president's veto. However, a veto may not be overridden if it is a pocket veto, a veto in which the president simply ignores a bill between congressional sessions. The veto override is an example of checks and balances, the process in which various branches of the U.S. government can limit each others' power.
Many states of the U.S. have similar regulations, i.e. a state governor can veto (refuse to sign on) a bill passed by the legislature, and the legislature can override the veto. Most states require a two-thirds majority vote to override.
Many states of the U.S. have similar regulations, i.e. a state governor can veto (refuse to sign on) a bill passed by the legislature, and the legislature can override the veto. Most states require a two-thirds majority vote to override.
We may need to have a constitutional convention...that'd be novel.
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