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The 2 warships that Iran is sending to the Suez Canal will enter from the south of Egypt. According to International Sea Laws in the region, Iran must comply with a 48 hour notice to enter.
(Which they have not done yet)
Iran claims that they only want to dock the ships in Syria.
Surprise Iran: The USA is already there waiting for you and Israel is on the way.
(Which they have not done yet)
Iran claims that they only want to dock the ships in Syria.
Surprise Iran: The USA is already there waiting for you and Israel is on the way.
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This report was issued last August. It caused disagreement between the Obama Administration and the State Department (Hillary Clinton). This was why Hillary was slow to react with Egypt.
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johnaustin123: Israel may be surrounded now and isolated for the first time since the formation of their Nation since 1948. The Peace Accord of 1979 with Egypt still seems safe.
Maybe...
US vs UN on Israeli settlements
On Thursday, as the Egyptian revolution was culminating with the collapse of the Mubarak regime, the Obama administration announced that it intends to veto a United Nations Security Council resolution, sponsored by 122 nations, condemning Israeli settlement expansion.
This is from AFP's report on what Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg told the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
"We have made very clear that we do not think the Security Council is the right place to engage on these issues," Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg told the House of Representatives' Foreign Affairs Committee.
"We have had some success, at least for the moment, in not having that arise there. And we will continue to employ the tools that we have to make sure that continues to not happen," said Steinberg.
There is so much wrong with Steinberg's statement that it is hard to know where to start.
First is the obvious. Opposition to Israeli settlements is perhaps the only issue on which the entire Arab and Muslim world is united. Iraqis and Afghanis, Syrians and Egyptians, Indonesians and Pakistanis don't agree on much, but they do agree on that. They also agree that the US policy on settlements demonstrates flagrant disregard for human rights in the Muslim world (at least when Israel is the human rights violator).
The settlement issue should be an easy one for the United States. Our official policy is the same as that of the Arab world. We oppose settlements. We consider them illegal. We have repeatedly demanded that the Israelis stop expanding them (although the Israeli government repeatedly ignores us). The administration feels so strongly about settlements that it recently offered Israel an extra $3.5bn in US aid to freeze settlements for 90 days.
It is impossible, then, for the United States to pretend that we do not agree with the resolution (especially when its language was carefully drafted to comport with the administration's official position). So why will we veto a resolution that expresses our own views?
Steinberg says that "We do not think the Security Council is the right place to engage on these issues."
Why not? It is the Security Council that passed all the major international resolutions (with US support) governing Israel's role in the occupied territories since the first one, UN Resolution 242 in 1967.
The only way to resolve the settlements issue, according to Steinberg, "is through engagement through the parties, and that is our clear and consistent position". Clear and consistent it may be. But it hasn't worked. The bulldozers never stop.
Of course, it is not hard to explain the Obama administration's decision to veto a resolution embodying positions that we support. It is the power of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), which is lobbying furiously for a US veto (actually not so furiously; AIPAC doesn't waste energy when it knows that its congressional acolytes — and Dennis Ross in the White House itself — will do its work for them).
The power of the lobby is the only reason we will veto the resolution. Try to come up with another one. After all, voting for the resolution (or, at least, abstaining on it) serves US interests in the Middle East at a critical moment and is consistent with US policy.
But it would enrage the lobby and its friends who will threaten retribution in the 2012 election.
Simply put, our Middle East policy is all about domestic politics. And not even the incredible events of the past month will change that. Source: Al Jazeera (Redacted to fit within limit of 4000 characters.)
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Paldi5: Maybe...
US vs UN on Israeli settlements
On Thursday, as the Egyptian revolution was culminating with the collapse of the Mubarak regime, the Obama administration announced that it intends to veto a United Nations Security Council resolution, sponsored by 122 nations, condemning Israeli settlement expansion.
This is from AFP's report on what Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg told the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
"We have made very clear that we do not think the Security Council is the right place to engage on these issues," Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg told the House of Representatives' Foreign Affairs Committee.
"We have had some success, at least for the moment, in not having that arise there. And we will continue to employ the tools that we have to make sure that continues to not happen," said Steinberg.
There is so much wrong with Steinberg's statement that it is hard to know where to start.
First is the obvious. Opposition to Israeli settlements is perhaps the only issue on which the entire Arab and Muslim world is united. Iraqis and Afghanis, Syrians and Egyptians, Indonesians and Pakistanis don't agree on much, but they do agree on that. They also agree that the US policy on settlements demonstrates flagrant disregard for human rights in the Muslim world (at least when Israel is the human rights violator).
The settlement issue should be an easy one for the United States. Our official policy is the same as that of the Arab world. We oppose settlements. We consider them illegal. We have repeatedly demanded that the Israelis stop expanding them (although the Israeli government repeatedly ignores us). The administration feels so strongly about settlements that it recently offered Israel an extra $3.5bn in US aid to freeze settlements for 90 days.
It is impossible, then, for the United States to pretend that we do not agree with the resolution (especially when its language was carefully drafted to comport with the administration's official position). So why will we veto a resolution that expresses our own views?
Steinberg says that "We do not think the Security Council is the right place to engage on these issues."
Why not? It is the Security Council that passed all the major international resolutions (with US support) governing Israel's role in the occupied territories since the first one, UN Resolution 242 in 1967.
The only way to resolve the settlements issue, according to Steinberg, "is through engagement through the parties, and that is our clear and consistent position". Clear and consistent it may be. But it hasn't worked. The bulldozers never stop.
Of course, it is not hard to explain the Obama administration's decision to veto a resolution embodying positions that we support. It is the power of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), which is lobbying furiously for a US veto (actually not so furiously; AIPAC doesn't waste energy when it knows that its congressional acolytes — and Dennis Ross in the White House itself — will do its work for them).
The power of the lobby is the only reason we will veto the resolution. Try to come up with another one. After all, voting for the resolution (or, at least, abstaining on it) serves US interests in the Middle East at a critical moment and is consistent with US policy.
But it would enrage the lobby and its friends who will threaten retribution in the 2012 election.
Simply put, our Middle East policy is all about domestic politics. And not even the incredible events of the past month will change that. Source: Al Jazeera (Redacted to fit within limit of 4000 characters.)
ever read Resolution 242?US vs UN on Israeli settlements
On Thursday, as the Egyptian revolution was culminating with the collapse of the Mubarak regime, the Obama administration announced that it intends to veto a United Nations Security Council resolution, sponsored by 122 nations, condemning Israeli settlement expansion.
This is from AFP's report on what Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg told the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
"We have made very clear that we do not think the Security Council is the right place to engage on these issues," Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg told the House of Representatives' Foreign Affairs Committee.
"We have had some success, at least for the moment, in not having that arise there. And we will continue to employ the tools that we have to make sure that continues to not happen," said Steinberg.
There is so much wrong with Steinberg's statement that it is hard to know where to start.
First is the obvious. Opposition to Israeli settlements is perhaps the only issue on which the entire Arab and Muslim world is united. Iraqis and Afghanis, Syrians and Egyptians, Indonesians and Pakistanis don't agree on much, but they do agree on that. They also agree that the US policy on settlements demonstrates flagrant disregard for human rights in the Muslim world (at least when Israel is the human rights violator).
The settlement issue should be an easy one for the United States. Our official policy is the same as that of the Arab world. We oppose settlements. We consider them illegal. We have repeatedly demanded that the Israelis stop expanding them (although the Israeli government repeatedly ignores us). The administration feels so strongly about settlements that it recently offered Israel an extra $3.5bn in US aid to freeze settlements for 90 days.
It is impossible, then, for the United States to pretend that we do not agree with the resolution (especially when its language was carefully drafted to comport with the administration's official position). So why will we veto a resolution that expresses our own views?
Steinberg says that "We do not think the Security Council is the right place to engage on these issues."
Why not? It is the Security Council that passed all the major international resolutions (with US support) governing Israel's role in the occupied territories since the first one, UN Resolution 242 in 1967.
The only way to resolve the settlements issue, according to Steinberg, "is through engagement through the parties, and that is our clear and consistent position". Clear and consistent it may be. But it hasn't worked. The bulldozers never stop.
Of course, it is not hard to explain the Obama administration's decision to veto a resolution embodying positions that we support. It is the power of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), which is lobbying furiously for a US veto (actually not so furiously; AIPAC doesn't waste energy when it knows that its congressional acolytes — and Dennis Ross in the White House itself — will do its work for them).
The power of the lobby is the only reason we will veto the resolution. Try to come up with another one. After all, voting for the resolution (or, at least, abstaining on it) serves US interests in the Middle East at a critical moment and is consistent with US policy.
But it would enrage the lobby and its friends who will threaten retribution in the 2012 election.
Simply put, our Middle East policy is all about domestic politics. And not even the incredible events of the past month will change that. Source: Al Jazeera (Redacted to fit within limit of 4000 characters.)
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Conrad73: ever read Resolution 242?
All Parties,not just Israel!
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The Middle East Riots have also spread to Northern Africa.
Jeremy Freed . Riots in Sudan | PBS
Jeremy Freed . Riots in Sudan | PBS
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A Brother Like That
Shuaib received an automobile from his brother as an Eid present. On Eid day when Shuaib came out of his house, a street urchin was walking around the shiny new car, admiring it. "Is this your car, Uncle?" he asked. Shuaib nodded. "My brother gave it to me for Eid." The boy was astounded.
"You mean your brother gave it to you and it didn't cost you nothing? Boy, I wish..." He hesitated. Of course Shuaib knew what he was going to wish for. He was going to wish he had a brother like that. But what the lad said jarred Shuaib all the way down to his heels. "I wish," the boy went on, "that I could be a brother like that." Shuaib looked at the boy in astonishment, then impulsively he added, "Would you like to take a ride in my automobile?" "Oh yes, I'd love that."
After a short ride, the boy turned and with his eyes aglow, said, "Uncle, would you mind driving in front of my house?" Shuaib smiled a little. He thought he knew what the lad wanted. He wanted to show his neighbors that he could ride home in a big automobile. But Shuaib was wrong again. "Will you stop where those two steps are?" the boy asked. He ran up the steps. Then in a little while Shuaib heard him coming back, but he was not coming fast. He was carrying his little crippled brother. He sat him down on the bottom step, then sort of squeezed up against him and pointed to the car.
"There it is, little brother, just like I told you upstairs. His brother gave it to him for Eid and it didn't cost him a penny. And some day I'm gonna give you one just like it...then you can see for yourself all the pretty things in the Shop windows that I've been trying to tell you about."
Shuaib got out and lifted the boy to the front seat of his car. The shining-eyed older brother climbed in beside him and the three of them began a memorable ride. That Eid, Shuaib learned what the RasulAllah (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) meant when he had said: "love for your brother what you love for yourself".
Shuaib received an automobile from his brother as an Eid present. On Eid day when Shuaib came out of his house, a street urchin was walking around the shiny new car, admiring it. "Is this your car, Uncle?" he asked. Shuaib nodded. "My brother gave it to me for Eid." The boy was astounded.
"You mean your brother gave it to you and it didn't cost you nothing? Boy, I wish..." He hesitated. Of course Shuaib knew what he was going to wish for. He was going to wish he had a brother like that. But what the lad said jarred Shuaib all the way down to his heels. "I wish," the boy went on, "that I could be a brother like that." Shuaib looked at the boy in astonishment, then impulsively he added, "Would you like to take a ride in my automobile?" "Oh yes, I'd love that."
After a short ride, the boy turned and with his eyes aglow, said, "Uncle, would you mind driving in front of my house?" Shuaib smiled a little. He thought he knew what the lad wanted. He wanted to show his neighbors that he could ride home in a big automobile. But Shuaib was wrong again. "Will you stop where those two steps are?" the boy asked. He ran up the steps. Then in a little while Shuaib heard him coming back, but he was not coming fast. He was carrying his little crippled brother. He sat him down on the bottom step, then sort of squeezed up against him and pointed to the car.
"There it is, little brother, just like I told you upstairs. His brother gave it to him for Eid and it didn't cost him a penny. And some day I'm gonna give you one just like it...then you can see for yourself all the pretty things in the Shop windows that I've been trying to tell you about."
Shuaib got out and lifted the boy to the front seat of his car. The shining-eyed older brother climbed in beside him and the three of them began a memorable ride. That Eid, Shuaib learned what the RasulAllah (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) meant when he had said: "love for your brother what you love for yourself".
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A Great oppertunity for the US to fish in the murky waters !!!!.
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johnaustin123: Egypt is the center of the Middle East. What happens in Egypt spreads to the surrounding Nations.
I will get off of my soapbox now and would like to hear your comments about the direction that other Nations may take from the Egyptian movement.
Israel may be surrounded now and isolated for the first time since the formation of their Nation since 1948.
I will get off of my soapbox now and would like to hear your comments about the direction that other Nations may take from the Egyptian movement.
Israel may be surrounded now and isolated for the first time since the formation of their Nation since 1948.
Israel has been surrounded by Arab states since day one and many Arabs live in Israel so nothing is new there. Their growing isolation is at least partially self inflicted. The Saudi Plan awaits the peace of the brave and is quite remarkable, if it is not retracted due to bad behavior.
Being surrounded by democratic Arab neighbor states may give Israel a new sense of belonging, especially if they can view their neighbors as equals and friends and if the neighbors accept them. If not, Israel will quickly become a rogue state with democracy only for Jews and a flawed system at that. Lets see what the Arabs do. Can democratic peace loving countries live with a crazy neighbor bent on expansionism and armed to the teeth? If democracy florishes in the region, Israel will need to change course or conquer and drive away the neighbors so they won't make her look bad.
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Paldi5: Their growing isolation is at least partially self inflicted.
As I was explaining to John Israel is far from being isolated as in the start, only fifteen nations recognized them and now over a hundred do.
Paldi5: Being surrounded by democratic Arab neighbor states may give Israel a new sense of belonging, especially if they can view their neighbors as equals and friends and if the neighbors accept them.
Please read the israeli declaration of Independance where they reach out to their neighbors in peace. The repsonse was for their neighbors to vow to destroy them. In brief, Israel has always wanted to be part of the larger community as equals and friends but the community wanted them dead.
Paldi5: If not, Israel will quickly become a rogue state with democracy only for Jews and a flawed system at that.
They already have equal rights for all. Read their laws and human rights records.
Paldi5: Lets see what the Arabs do. Can democratic peace loving countries live with a crazy neighbor bent on expansionism and armed to the teeth?
I doubt it but, the Iraq war is now over when the US liberated it in 2003.
Paldi5: If democracy florishes in the region, Israel will need to change course or conquer and drive away the neighbors so they won't make her look bad.
How do you mean change course? Once peace has been agreed upon they have historically returned lands.
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Being surrounded by democratic Arab neighbor states may give Israel a new sense of belonging, especially if they can view their neighbors as equals and friends and if the neighbors accept them. If not, Israel will quickly become a rogue state with democracy only for Jews and a flawed system at that. Lets see what the Arabs do. Can democratic peace loving countries live with a crazy neighbor bent on expansionism and armed to the teeth? If democracy florishes in the region, Israel will need to change course or conquer and drive away the neighbors so they won't make her look bad.
You have got to be Joking DEMOCRATIC Arab states.
Which ones ????
Egypt Maybe soon
Jordan Not yet
Palestine No way
Syria Watch this space
Lebanon getting there someday
And the rest of the Arab world is at this moment boiling over and folk are getting rid of All their current leaders.
Do you watch the news.
The whole of North Africa and the middle east is in turmoil.
You have got to be Joking DEMOCRATIC Arab states.
Which ones ????
Egypt Maybe soon
Jordan Not yet
Palestine No way
Syria Watch this space
Lebanon getting there someday
And the rest of the Arab world is at this moment boiling over and folk are getting rid of All their current leaders.
Do you watch the news.
The whole of North Africa and the middle east is in turmoil.
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That sounds reasonable PatEven I'M not buying all the crapadoodle on this thread
Hey I'm happy that the Eastern kids are taking a second look at their lot in life.... but I also don't believe in miracles.. they've got 1,500 yrs of programming to undo, none of that will happen over night.
I mean... we still haven't done it in the western world, who are we kidding?
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Paldi5: Israel has been surrounded by Arab states since day one and many Arabs live in Israel so nothing is new there. Their growing isolation is at least partially self inflicted. The Saudi Plan awaits the peace of the brave and is quite remarkable, if it is not retracted due to bad behavior.
Being surrounded by democratic Arab neighbor states may give Israel a new sense of belonging, especially if they can view their neighbors as equals and friends and if the neighbors accept them. If not, Israel will quickly become a rogue state with democracy only for Jews and a flawed system at that. Lets see what the Arabs do. Can democratic peace loving countries live with a crazy neighbor bent on expansionism and armed to the teeth? If democracy florishes in the region, Israel will need to change course or conquer and drive away the neighbors so they won't make her look bad.
Fred,Fred,Fred,when will you stop your Dis-Informatiom Campaign?Being surrounded by democratic Arab neighbor states may give Israel a new sense of belonging, especially if they can view their neighbors as equals and friends and if the neighbors accept them. If not, Israel will quickly become a rogue state with democracy only for Jews and a flawed system at that. Lets see what the Arabs do. Can democratic peace loving countries live with a crazy neighbor bent on expansionism and armed to the teeth? If democracy florishes in the region, Israel will need to change course or conquer and drive away the neighbors so they won't make her look bad.
Arabs In the Knesset!
Israel the only Democracy in the Region!
Fred,Fred,Fred!
Surrounded by DEMOCRATIC Arab-States?
Start enumerating!
That's gonna be good!
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are we talking about israel again
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Power to the sisters all throughout the Middle East! 
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There is something going on with Russia, the Middle East and youtube. My link to the Kremlin is gone for now.
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These are a couple of interesting videos on topic:
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Obama Comments on Economy, Middle East
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