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Mar 12, 2011 2:21 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
rubendario
rubendariorubendarioHartford, Connecticut USA8 Threads 1 Polls 3,278 Posts
I am curious to get some responses to those whom have done some research on the Bible and the Jesus story. I would like to read responses from those whom have gotten past the Religious Dogma and accept the fact that those manuscripts have been changed hundreds of times and their true meaning completely distorted.

There are many authors now who have done their research and have published their findings and have come to some very interesting theories. The interesting thing about many of these authors is that they have received some of their researched revelations via an outside supernatural influence either through channelling, dreams, extraterrestrial or other paranormal means. The interesting thing to me, is that those characters within the bible itself have received such revelations the very same way. Now many of these authors are very well educated and have also used Ancient History, Archeology, Anthropology, Linguistics, Mythology and Folklore, Physics, other Religions to support their point of view.

What's your theory? What was Jesus really trying to say?

If your head is stuck in-between the front and back cover of the bible and can't venture out, don't bother responding!
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Mar 12, 2011 2:23 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
jeses james ???
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Mar 12, 2011 2:27 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
rubendario
rubendariorubendarioHartford, Connecticut USA8 Threads 1 Polls 3,278 Posts
tomcatwarne: jeses james ???


I don't know who that is. Did you mean Jesse James (September 5, 1847 – April 3, 1882) the American outlaw in our Wild West days?
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Mar 12, 2011 2:29 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
rubendario: I am curious to get some responses to those whom have done some research on the Bible and the Jesus story. I would like to read responses from those whom have gotten past the Religious Dogma and accept the fact that those manuscripts have been changed hundreds of times and their true meaning completely distorted.

There are many authors now who have done their research and have published their findings and have come to some very interesting theories. The interesting thing about many of these authors is that they have received some of their researched revelations via an outside supernatural influence either through channelling, dreams, extraterrestrial or other paranormal means. The interesting thing to me, is that those characters within the bible itself have received such revelations the very same way. Now many of these authors are very well educated and have also used Ancient History, Archeology, Anthropology, Linguistics, Mythology and Folklore, Physics, other Religions to support their point of view.

What's your theory? What was Jesus really trying to say?

If your head is stuck in-between the front and back cover of the bible and can't venture out, don't bother responding!

I suspect that Jesus was a victim of a political assassination ,.My guesses are that we won`t find out his real words and ideas ,anytime soon
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Mar 12, 2011 2:31 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
invinciblemuse
invinciblemuseinvinciblemuseDresden, Saxony Germany38 Threads 2 Polls 6,026 Posts
Boban1: I suspect that Jesus was a victim of a political assassination ,.My guesses are that we won`t find out his real words and ideas ,anytime soon


hmmm ...unless they really invent time travel in 2012 as predicted. batting
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Mar 12, 2011 2:31 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Boban1: I suspect that Jesus was a victim of a political assassination ,.My guesses are that we won`t find out his real words and ideas ,anytime soon

My guess is he was working under cover, hence the many cryptic messages, maybe wikileaks will do an expose.grin angel devil
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Mar 12, 2011 2:36 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Boban1: I suspect that Jesus was a victim of a political assassination ,.My guesses are that we won`t find out his real words and ideas ,anytime soon


That seems logical to me.

We can only veiw the myth from our own perspective. I like to think of him as a feminist and a free-thinker.
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Mar 12, 2011 2:37 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
invinciblemuse: ...unless they really invent time travel in 2012 as predicted.

time troweling is scheduled for 2012???shock


tomcatwarne: My guess is he was working under cover, hence the many cryptic messages, maybe wikileaks will do an expose.

I see you doubt in the existence of a Jesus as a person even
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Mar 12, 2011 2:40 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
invinciblemuse
invinciblemuseinvinciblemuseDresden, Saxony Germany38 Threads 2 Polls 6,026 Posts
Boban1: time travelling is scheduled for 2012???


Yep, some think this is the real reason why the Mayan calendar ends in 2012... rolling on the floor laughing grin
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Mar 12, 2011 2:41 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Boban1: time troweling is scheduled for 2012???
I see you doubt in the existence of a Jesus as a person even


I think you misunderstand my quote, I do believe he was a person , but you know, wheels within wheels, who knows the true storygrin angel devil rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 12, 2011 2:43 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
rubendario
rubendariorubendarioHartford, Connecticut USA8 Threads 1 Polls 3,278 Posts
Boban1: I suspect that Jesus was a victim of a political assassination ,.My guesses are that we won`t find out his real words and ideas ,anytime soon


Hi Boban1! But that's it, some of these authors, there are many to list, have some very radical ideas. Political in that the leaders at the time were trying to cover up some much larger secret and what he was really saying. Some think "like the last book of the bible" that things will be revealed very soon(Revelation). confused thumbs up
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Mar 12, 2011 2:47 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
Faithfulness
FaithfulnessFaithfulnessWaukesha, Wisconsin USA2 Threads 1,056 Posts
Post Author: rubendario
What's your theory? What was Jesus really trying to say?

If your head is stuck in-between the front and back cover of the bible and can't venture out, don't bother responding!

It sounds like you either want a testimony or another kind of translation. The question you are asking sounds like a trick question.
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Mar 12, 2011 2:52 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
jac379: That seems logical to me.

We can only veiw the myth from our own perspective. I like to think of him as a feminist and a free-thinker.


Now that is a interesting statement

I don`t know how to put this in English ,but it seems that the society wasn`t ready or developed for his teaching and ideas
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Mar 12, 2011 2:52 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
rubendario
rubendariorubendarioHartford, Connecticut USA8 Threads 1 Polls 3,278 Posts
Faithfulness: Post Author: rubendario
What's your theory? What was Jesus really trying to say?

If your head is stuck in-between the front and back cover of the bible and can't venture out, don't bother responding!

It sounds like you either want a testimony or another kind of translation. The question you are asking sounds like a trick question.


No, not really, just a perspective that's truly researched with an open mind, not "believe in Jesus Christ and you'll be saved!" or "The bible is the last word" etc.. I have already heard those, I don't need to read them again. I want ideas and a perspective that go's beyond the accepted norm.

No trick, just a question to share ideas with respect! bouquet
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Mar 12, 2011 2:54 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
rubendario
rubendariorubendarioHartford, Connecticut USA8 Threads 1 Polls 3,278 Posts
Boban1: Now that is a interesting statement

I don`t know how to put this in English ,but it seems that the society wasn`t ready or developed for his teaching and ideas


You put it very clearly, and that, I think, is true today as well!
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Mar 12, 2011 2:57 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
Faithfulness
FaithfulnessFaithfulnessWaukesha, Wisconsin USA2 Threads 1,056 Posts
Jesus was definitely a free thinker in His time. Wasn't held to the religious laws and traditions like the Pharisees. Jesus did His thinking and talking outside the box back then.
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Mar 12, 2011 3:00 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
rubendario: Hi Boban1! But that's it, some of these authors, there are many to list, have some very radical ideas. Political in that the leaders at the time were trying to cover up some much larger secret and what he was really saying. Some think "like the last book of the bible" that things will be revealed very soon(Revelation).


Having an open mind about it is very difficult especially with all these censorship ,cover-ups and false information
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Mar 12, 2011 3:00 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
solsticemoon
solsticemoonsolsticemoonjavea, Valencia Spain64 Threads 4,504 Posts
rubendario: You put it very clearly, and that, I think, is true today as well!

still looking for answers gorgeous?teddybear
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Mar 12, 2011 3:02 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
Faithfulness: Jesus was definitely a free thinker in His time. Wasn't held to the religious laws and traditions like the Pharisees. Jesus did His thinking and talking outside the box back then.


Sorry but for years now I've never been able to picture the Sermon on the Mount without thinking of Life of Brian!

Blessed are the cheesemakers!blushing
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Mar 12, 2011 3:04 PM CST The true meaning of Jeses' message and what really happened
rubendario
rubendariorubendarioHartford, Connecticut USA8 Threads 1 Polls 3,278 Posts
solsticemoon: still looking for answers gorgeous?


Hi good lookin!! wave Yes, always lookin!! rolling on the floor laughing

How are ya? grin
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