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May 9, 2011 1:23 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
gardenhackle
gardenhacklegardenhackleStratford, Connecticut USA55 Threads 9 Polls 2,067 Posts
doberman3: Were you drunk when you posted that, I aughta know.
Thank you.


Not yet, unfortunately. I try to pace myself on week days.
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May 9, 2011 1:24 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
doberman3
doberman3doberman3Clarksville, Tennessee USA25 Threads 1 Polls 1,838 Posts
bestbefore: Hi Dobe ,Knew you wouldn't stay away,and thank goodnes for that.

With regards the famine in Ireland yes it was originally started by the potato crop failing,but was not helped by the high handed government in England,hence the "bashing"

I can understand people getting angry,but to blame a nation for a Government's mishandling of the situation is taking it out of context.

You should try and read Joseph O'Connor's "Star of the sea" A block busting best seller which won many awards.It's based on the Irish famine and although not an easy read is fascinating reading.It wasn't all down to the English.


Hi best, you're right, couldn't do it. I was trying but glad to be back.

I always enjoy your posts. Thanks for the info. I am interested in history, all over, not just the US. I will check out "Star of the Sea". Thank you. bouquet

The Dobe
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May 9, 2011 1:24 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
Nuliiiiiii: An Gorta Mor ( The Great Hunger)
We are the Silent People.
How long must we be still,
To nurse in secret at our breast
An ancient culture?

Let us arise and cry then;
Call from the sleeping ashes
Of destiny a chieftain who
Will be our voice.

He will strike the brass
And we will erupt
From our hidden caves
Into the light of new-born day.
From 1845, when Ireland's potato crop partially failed, to 1847, when starvation and disease rose to dramatic levels, to 1852, when the economy and population was just getting back on its feet, the Irish were the Silent People. The "Great Hunger", known as An Gorta Mor in Gaelic, happened in an era when millions of people knew only famine, oppression, and degradation. The potato famine itself was a "natural" disaster such as a flood or an earthquake, and there is no way to predict when such an event will happen. A fungus known as "phytophthora infestans" caused the blight itself. But to be prepared for such an event and to deal with it in a correct and timely fashion is the important issue. The English, the ruling body in all of Ireland at the time, did not remedy the situation, nor did they care to. In fact, they seemed to do the opposite. But why look back and blame "The English"??

We have come a long way and struggled sure but "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else, you are the one who gets burned"

I have a great Intrest in "An Gorta Mor" but to hold on to Anger is bad very BAD


Eloquently spoken my friend. History tells a story that some would rather not know about.As I said before a Nation cannot be held responsible for it's Government and the bad decisions made.

Same applies to this day and age really.hug
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May 9, 2011 1:26 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
bestbefore: Eloquently spoken my friend. History tells a story that some would rather not know about.As I said before a Nation cannot be held responsible for it's Government and the bad decisions made.

Same applies to this day and age really.
Indeed Best

Lets look forward not back handshake teddybear bouquet
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May 9, 2011 1:26 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
optomistic68
optomistic68optomistic68Craigavon, Antrim Ireland23 Threads 826 Posts
bestbefore: Eloquently spoken my friend. History tells a story that some would rather not know about.As I said before a Nation cannot be held responsible for it's Government and the bad decisions made.

Same applies to this day and age really.


When a Nations People are told Lies and do not react then the People are to blame.
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May 9, 2011 1:27 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
doberman3
doberman3doberman3Clarksville, Tennessee USA25 Threads 1 Polls 1,838 Posts
Bodecia: Great post.


Thank you, Bodecia.
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May 9, 2011 1:30 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
doberman3
doberman3doberman3Clarksville, Tennessee USA25 Threads 1 Polls 1,838 Posts
gardenhackle: Damn good thing Virginia is so far away from CT. If France and England were as far apart as our two states are, those chaps might not have been fussing with each other all those centuries.

OK... here's your thread back.


Hey, there old chap, what's this about Virginia and CT being so far apart, are you telling me you miss me and want to kiss me?

The Dobe
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May 9, 2011 1:36 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
optomistic68: When a Nations People are told Lies and do not react then the People are to blame.


My goodness you do spout some rubbish. So the whole world is in crisis cos most Governments tell porky pies to it's people.

Get off that soapbox ,come back into the real world and listen not preach.professor
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May 9, 2011 1:39 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
optomistic68: When a Nations People are told Lies and do not react then the People are to blame.
Anyone can become angry. That is easy. But to be angry with the RIGHT person, to the RIGHT degree, at the RIGHT time, for the RIGHT purpose and in the RIGHT way... that is not easy.


Hi Optomistichandshake
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May 9, 2011 1:45 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
optomistic68
optomistic68optomistic68Craigavon, Antrim Ireland23 Threads 826 Posts
Nuliiiiiii: Anyone can become angry. That is easy. But to be angry with the RIGHT person, to the RIGHT degree, at the RIGHT time, for the RIGHT purpose and in the RIGHT way... that is not easy.Hi Optomistic




Hello Nuli


I do hope that the word Anger is not directed at me. I am not a bit Angry. This is a public platform chat Thread.dancing
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May 9, 2011 1:48 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
optomistic68: Hello NuliI do hope that the word Anger is not directed at me. I am not a bit Angry. This is a public platform chat Thread.
grin Nope not directed at you dear man uh oh

mumbling grin wave
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May 9, 2011 1:51 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
optomistic68: When a Nations People are told Lies and do not react then the People are to blame.


What lies w\ere you told and how did you react?
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May 9, 2011 1:54 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
gardenhackle
gardenhacklegardenhackleStratford, Connecticut USA55 Threads 9 Polls 2,067 Posts
doberman3: Hey, there old chap, what's this about Virginia and CT being so far apart, are you telling me you miss me and want to kiss me?

The Dobe


You betcha! You were definitely missed. hug
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May 9, 2011 1:58 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
optomistic68
optomistic68optomistic68Craigavon, Antrim Ireland23 Threads 826 Posts
bestbefore: My goodness you do spout some rubbish. So the whole world is in crisis cos most Governments tell porky pies to it's people.

Get off that soapbox ,come back into the real world and listen not preach.


Agree with the soapbox....but I ain't preaching just telling it as I see it. As for the real world I am a member of that when not on here.




Now this is a Political Thread and is for Adults and there will be casualties...so my advice to you is stick to the Jokes section.

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May 9, 2011 3:17 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
optomistic68: Agree with the soapbox....but I ain't preaching just telling it as I see it. As for the real world I am a member of that when not on here.

Now this is a Political Thread and is for Adults and there will be casualties...so my advice to you is stick to the Jokes section.
rolling on the floor laughing MasterDebater has spoken!rolling on the floor laughing
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May 9, 2011 3:37 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
optomistic68: Agree with the soapbox....but I ain't preaching just telling it as I see it. As for the real world I am a member of that when not on here.

Now this is a Political Thread and is for Adults and there will be casualties...so my advice to you is stick to the Jokes section.


Well,well, well. from what I have seen posted on this thread by some people I thought I was in the joke thread.

Please don't take that condescending attitude with me ,I've been about on this earth longer than you,as you once reminded me [past my sell by date wasn't it.]

You know what you can do with your advice as I'm sure you have been told many times before.rolling on the floor laughing

Read the Forum rules before you start telling me where I should post. scold
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May 9, 2011 5:12 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
optomistic68
optomistic68optomistic68Craigavon, Antrim Ireland23 Threads 826 Posts
bestbefore: Well,well, well. from what I have seen posted on this thread by some people I thought I was in the joke thread.

Please don't take that condescending attitude with me ,I've been about on this earth longer than you,as you once reminded me [past my sell by date wasn't it.]

You know what you can do with your advice as I'm sure you have been told many times before.

Read the Forum rules before you start telling me where I should post.




A song for you BBteddybear handshake thumbs up


From another Irishman.

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May 9, 2011 6:05 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
Tomcats2
Tomcats2Tomcats2Norwich, Norfolk, England UK81 Threads 9 Polls 2,249 Posts
bestbefore: Well,well, well. from what I have seen posted on this thread by some people I thought I was in the joke thread.

Please don't take that condescending attitude with me ,I've been about on this earth longer than you,as you once reminded me [past my sell by date wasn't it.]

You know what you can do with your advice as I'm sure you have been told many times before.

Read the Forum rules before you start telling me where I should post.
Suprised this thread lasted so long only put it on to get Bin laden off and to create mischief thatnks folk
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May 10, 2011 4:05 AM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
Tomcats2: Suprised this thread lasted so long only put it on to get Bin laden off and to create mischief thatnks folk


You didn't succeed on the first agenda unfortunately,but sure raised a storm!

I actually enjoyed the banter,though some are hell bent on stirring the proverbial pot.handshake
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May 11, 2011 2:26 AM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
nepolion01
nepolion01nepolion01Melbourne, Victoria Australia2 Threads 55 Posts
Bodecia: Nice bike!


Well all the girls like my bike not meedunno rolling on the floor laughing
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