English To Blame for the Worlds Problems ( Archived) (372)

May 7, 2011 2:00 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
cincity: This is ridiculous and pointless..There is not one country that has not done wrong to others be they the natives of that country or when trying to take over another...


as opposed to all the other provocative and enlightening conversations to be had here?dunno







grin wave
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May 7, 2011 2:03 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
Bodecia
BodeciaBodeciaMorristown, New York USA28 Threads 3 Polls 1,476 Posts
mindfful: oh stop being so damn reasonable


blues crying crying

laugh
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May 7, 2011 2:07 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
no no --shame on me

you need the practicegrin

dont we allhelp


greetings up there to you and yourswave
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May 7, 2011 2:09 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
todger: I see you as the antagonist

You insult the irish by saying its "raking over old coals"

come here and feel how those old coals still burn


No insult was made to anyone or country, you turned my words.

Oh and my mother is an Irish Jew, born and raised in Connemara
laugh laugh
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May 7, 2011 2:10 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
jc320
jc320jc320burnley, Lancashire, England UK117 Posts
Tomcats2: I was looking through the United Staes forums and noticed this on the New York one.

According to a books theories its like this...
The burger is to blame the sandwich.
Pollution is to blame the industrial revolution.
Todays wars are to blame English collonialisation.
Greed is to blame for English imperialism.
England owes each person on the planet around $4000 compensation for breach of human rights.
England is to blame for concentration camps and todays genocidesI was wondering what other people felt about these claims?




To be born English is like winning the lottery of life !

Who cares what the world thinks.
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May 7, 2011 2:11 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
Sunnydaze14
Sunnydaze14Sunnydaze14Dublin, Ireland105 Threads 3 Polls 2,870 Posts
Bodecia: Ok, my Two-Penneth on the Irish Famine issue.

I completely agree that it was a terrible thing to do by the British Whig Government, and was no doubt an attempt to "deal" with the Irish. It is a part of English History that makes my English side ashamed and my Irish side seething. It was heart-wrenching, to read accounts of Irish people losing families, their homes, their livelihoods, in the most terrible ways. They were forced onto land in the West of Ireland that was good for nothing; impossible to grow anything on and bitterly exposed to the Atlantic weather. "Connaught or Hell", indeed...

I have read extensively on this subject as I am very interested in the histories of all countries, and my own in particular.

However, some good did come out of it. Many Irish were forced to emmigrate to the USA, and eventually were able to bring the rest of their families over and start new, prosperous lives. Even before that point, they were able to send "Letters from America" - correspondence containing some funds to send back to their loved ones in Ireland.

The famine also galvanised the Irish people into fighting, and winning their Free Ireland. Although the Isle of Ireland is still indeed split, the South was at least able to eventually create their own homeland.

The histories of England, Ireland and the USA are forever intertwined; rarely does one country's events not touch the other over the centuries. Which is exactly why I believe there is, and always will be a "Special Relationship"; not just between 2 countries but aill 3.

Long may it last.



thumbs up very nice post! and I recognise you, welcome back!
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May 7, 2011 2:11 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
Bodecia
BodeciaBodeciaMorristown, New York USA28 Threads 3 Polls 1,476 Posts
And to you all...

Enjoy Neil Young! head banger grin
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May 7, 2011 2:13 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
Bodecia
BodeciaBodeciaMorristown, New York USA28 Threads 3 Polls 1,476 Posts
Sunnydaze14: very nice post! and I recognise you, welcome back!


Thank you.wine wave
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May 7, 2011 2:14 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts



head banger head banger
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May 7, 2011 2:14 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
venusenvy: http://youtu.be/PdiCJUysIT0


Ooops for Bodecia wine
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May 7, 2011 2:16 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
Bodecia
BodeciaBodeciaMorristown, New York USA28 Threads 3 Polls 1,476 Posts
venusenvy: Ooops for Bodecia


cheering head banger cheering head banger
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May 7, 2011 2:59 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
Bodecia: And to you all...

Enjoy Neil Young!
indeed i willwave

just about time to drag it into the shower and get readyhead banger
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May 7, 2011 3:20 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
optomistic68
optomistic68optomistic68Craigavon, Antrim Ireland23 Threads 826 Posts
Conrad73: ever counted how many wars were there in the peaceful Sixties?

No


I was making Love.
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May 7, 2011 3:25 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
GalwayGuy35
GalwayGuy35GalwayGuy35galway, Galway Ireland25 Threads 1,537 Posts
jc320: To be born English is like winning the lottery of life !

Who cares what the world thinks.

Whys that? Sure we could all say that couldnt we about where we were born, dont see how it would be any better than any other country.
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May 7, 2011 4:08 PM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
optomistic68
optomistic68optomistic68Craigavon, Antrim Ireland23 Threads 826 Posts
venusenvy: Sad that you wouldnt know that. Speaks volumes about you. Rather ironic when you consider these are the peeps your attempting to belittle intellectually. Canada ranked 3rd in the world standardized educational testing...Where pray tell did your country rank?


The Irish in General are very Educated. The Irish as you may be aware are welcome all over the world. They have contributed enormously to America Canada Australia and numerous other countries.
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May 8, 2011 6:54 AM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
Isn't it interesting to notice... that no matter where you are, people find reasons to hate each other... is this the real ying and yang of life? Petty differences?

Whether on the same island or continent, someone is pointing and someone accused... when we are exactly the same people no matter what color, accent or past; we all put our britches on one leg at a time, work, eat, marry and raise families and yet............

dunno doh
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May 8, 2011 7:33 AM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
gininitaly: Isn't it interesting to notice... that no matter where you are, people find reasons to hate each other... is this the real ying and yang of life? Petty differences?

Whether on the same island or continent, someone is pointing and someone accused... when we are exactly the same people no matter what color, accent or past; we all put our britches on one leg at a time, work, eat, marry and raise families and yet............


Hi Gininitaly, Great to see you.wave I haven't seen you for a while and wondered what had happened to you.

Have to agree with what you say,but then if we all liked each other,there would be nothing to do in the Forums.rolling on the floor laughing
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May 8, 2011 7:44 AM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
Colleene1024
Colleene1024Colleene1024West Warwick, Rhode Island USA10 Threads 1,225 Posts
Tomcats2: I was looking through the United Staes forums and noticed this on the New York one.

According to a books theories its like this...
The burger is to blame the sandwich.
Pollution is to blame the industrial revolution.
Todays wars are to blame English collonialisation.
Greed is to blame for English imperialism.
England owes each person on the planet around $4000 compensation for breach of human rights.
England is to blame for concentration camps and todays genocidesI was wondering what other people felt about these claims?


Geez! At first I thought my thread was brought back from the grave, then I read this! rolling on the floor laughing Besides, it's not so much English, It's the damn Brits! rolling on the floor laughing wink tongue
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May 8, 2011 7:57 AM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
wave Hi Best.... Oh just needed a breather out in the real world, where most ford ahead and oddly enough live their little lives pleasantly, oblivious to the worlds machinations. cool

So for awhile anyway, while the sun shines, might as well take it one day at a time. grin cheers
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May 8, 2011 8:22 AM CST English To Blame for the Worlds Problems
todger
todgertodgerSveti Vlas Bourgas Region, Burgas Bulgaria14 Threads 2,054 Posts
gininitaly: Isn't it interesting to notice... that no matter where you are, people find reasons to hate each other... is this the real ying and yang of life? Petty differences?

Whether on the same island or continent, someone is pointing and someone accused... when we are exactly the same people no matter what color, accent or past; we all put our britches on one leg at a time, work, eat, marry and raise families and yet............


Hate wasn't mentioned so why put these words into peoples minds

and what YOU find Petty others dont

One mans meat is another mans poison

Ive got my point of view and I will stick with that get over it

wine
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