English To Blame for the Worlds Problems (372)
It's rather refrishing that someone besides the USA is to blame for the world's woes. 
I'll take my $4,000 in small denominations. Prefer $10's or $20's...
I'll take my $4,000 in small denominations. Prefer $10's or $20's...
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blarneykite: Hate to tell you mate, but there was NO FAMINE in Ireland, There was however a Potato Blight that ruined the potato crop and as such the staple diet of the Irish people. During the years of the "FAMINE" there was food a plenty in Ireland... being exported by the land owners and co. That in effect makes what happened more akin to genocide... When they said to connaught or to hell, it meant the same thing
I read the start of your post and I thought No Famine in Ireland and I am glad I finished reading it other wise you and I would have a flaming row...
I must chill out
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blarneykite: OH SO TRUE, thankfully the majority of us have learned the lessons of history and left it where it belongs.... In the past.... The now and the future is what matters
indeed
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optomistic68: I read the start of your post and I thought No Famine in Ireland and I am glad I finished reading it other wise you and I would have a flaming row...
I must chill out
It's amazing just how many people don't know their own historyI must chill out
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bestbefore: Oh rizlared,some people just love raking over the past. The antagonists will continue to bash each other as to who did what to whom!
In the light of the world today with country's collapsing everywhere,wouldn't you think their time would be better spent uniting not fighting.
In the light of the world today with country's collapsing everywhere,wouldn't you think their time would be better spent uniting not fighting.
Lets invoke the sentiments of the sixties..
Make Love Not War..
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blarneykite: Hate to tell you mate, but there was NO FAMINE in Ireland, There was however a Potato Blight that ruined the potato crop and as such the staple diet of the Irish people. During the years of the "FAMINE" there was food a plenty in Ireland... being exported by the land owners and co. That in effect makes what happened more akin to genocide... When they said to connaught or to hell, it meant the same thing
Ah connaught aint that bad B when you get used to living here
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bestbefore: Oh rizlared,some people just love raking over the past. The antagonists will continue to bash each other as to who did what to whom!
In the light of the world today with country's collapsing everywhere,wouldn't you think their time would be better spent uniting not fighting.
In the light of the world today with country's collapsing everywhere,wouldn't you think their time would be better spent uniting not fighting.
Exactly, We have all the resources and opportunities to make the whole world a better place, but so many just want to rake over the coals and keep the fires burning, but with politics and religion mixed with fanatics and hard liners, the rest of the world has no chance.
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Ok, my Two-Penneth on the Irish Famine issue.
I completely agree that it was a terrible thing to do by the British Whig Government, and was no doubt an attempt to "deal" with the Irish. It is a part of English History that makes my English side ashamed and my Irish side seething. It was heart-wrenching, to read accounts of Irish people losing families, their homes, their livelihoods, in the most terrible ways. They were forced onto land in the West of Ireland that was good for nothing; impossible to grow anything on and bitterly exposed to the Atlantic weather. "Connaught or Hell", indeed...
I have read extensively on this subject as I am very interested in the histories of all countries, and my own in particular.
However, some good did come out of it. Many Irish were forced to emmigrate to the USA, and eventually were able to bring the rest of their families over and start new, prosperous lives. Even before that point, they were able to send "Letters from America" - correspondence containing some funds to send back to their loved ones in Ireland.
The famine also galvanised the Irish people into fighting, and winning their Free Ireland. Although the Isle of Ireland is still indeed split, the South was at least able to eventually create their own homeland.
The histories of England, Ireland and the USA are forever intertwined; rarely does one country's events not touch the other over the centuries. Which is exactly why I believe there is, and always will be a "Special Relationship"; not just between 2 countries but aill 3.
Long may it last.
I completely agree that it was a terrible thing to do by the British Whig Government, and was no doubt an attempt to "deal" with the Irish. It is a part of English History that makes my English side ashamed and my Irish side seething. It was heart-wrenching, to read accounts of Irish people losing families, their homes, their livelihoods, in the most terrible ways. They were forced onto land in the West of Ireland that was good for nothing; impossible to grow anything on and bitterly exposed to the Atlantic weather. "Connaught or Hell", indeed...
I have read extensively on this subject as I am very interested in the histories of all countries, and my own in particular.
However, some good did come out of it. Many Irish were forced to emmigrate to the USA, and eventually were able to bring the rest of their families over and start new, prosperous lives. Even before that point, they were able to send "Letters from America" - correspondence containing some funds to send back to their loved ones in Ireland.
The famine also galvanised the Irish people into fighting, and winning their Free Ireland. Although the Isle of Ireland is still indeed split, the South was at least able to eventually create their own homeland.
The histories of England, Ireland and the USA are forever intertwined; rarely does one country's events not touch the other over the centuries. Which is exactly why I believe there is, and always will be a "Special Relationship"; not just between 2 countries but aill 3.
Long may it last.
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GalwayGuy35: Ah connaught aint that bad B when you get used to living here
UP THE WEST, alot better these days than 200 years ago... Hope life's treating you well
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optomistic68: Lets invoke the sentiments of the sixties..
Make Love Not War..
ever counted how many wars were there in the peaceful Sixties?Make Love Not War..
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Conrad73: ever counted how many wars were there in the peaceful Sixties?
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blarneykite: Indeed Conrad... There was a lot more killing, than there was lovin going on
You bet!Southeast-Asia!
All over the Mideast,and all across Africa.
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rizlared: Exactly, We have all the resources and opportunities to make the whole world a better place, but so many just want to rake over the coals and keep the fires burning, but with politics and religion mixed with fanatics and hard liners, the rest of the world has no chance.
I see you as the antagonist
You insult the irish by saying its "raking over old coals"
come here and feel how those old coals still burn
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Conrad73: You bet!
Southeast-Asia!
All over the Mideast,and all across Africa.
And N. Ireland in the late 60's..... The english having "A crack at the Mick"Southeast-Asia!
All over the Mideast,and all across Africa.
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Bodecia: Ok, my Two-Penneth on the Irish Famine issue.
I completely agree that it was a terrible thing to do by the British Whig Government, and was no doubt an attempt to "deal" with the Irish. It is a part of English History that makes my English side ashamed and my Irish side seething. It was heart-wrenching, to read accounts of Irish people losing families, their homes, their livelihoods, in the most terrible ways. They were forced onto land in the West of Ireland that was good for nothing; impossible to grow anything on and bitterly exposed to the Atlantic weather. "Connaught or Hell", indeed...
I have read extensively on this subject as I am very interested in the histories of all countries, and my own in particular.
However, some good did come out of it. Many Irish were forced to emmigrate to the USA, and eventually were able to bring the rest of their families over and start new, prosperous lives. Even before that point, they were able to send "Letters from America" - correspondence containing some funds to send back to their loved ones in Ireland.
The famine also galvanised the Irish people into fighting, and winning their Free Ireland. Although the Isle of Ireland is still indeed split, the South was at least able to eventually create their own homeland.
The histories of England, Ireland and the USA are forever intertwined; rarely does one country's events not touch the other over the centuries. Which is exactly why I believe there is, and always will be a "Special Relationship"; not just between 2 countries but aill 3.
Long may it last.
oh stop being so damn reasonableI completely agree that it was a terrible thing to do by the British Whig Government, and was no doubt an attempt to "deal" with the Irish. It is a part of English History that makes my English side ashamed and my Irish side seething. It was heart-wrenching, to read accounts of Irish people losing families, their homes, their livelihoods, in the most terrible ways. They were forced onto land in the West of Ireland that was good for nothing; impossible to grow anything on and bitterly exposed to the Atlantic weather. "Connaught or Hell", indeed...
I have read extensively on this subject as I am very interested in the histories of all countries, and my own in particular.
However, some good did come out of it. Many Irish were forced to emmigrate to the USA, and eventually were able to bring the rest of their families over and start new, prosperous lives. Even before that point, they were able to send "Letters from America" - correspondence containing some funds to send back to their loved ones in Ireland.
The famine also galvanised the Irish people into fighting, and winning their Free Ireland. Although the Isle of Ireland is still indeed split, the South was at least able to eventually create their own homeland.
The histories of England, Ireland and the USA are forever intertwined; rarely does one country's events not touch the other over the centuries. Which is exactly why I believe there is, and always will be a "Special Relationship"; not just between 2 countries but aill 3.
Long may it last.
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blarneykite: OH SO TRUE, thankfully the majority of us have learned the lessons of history and left it where it belongs.... In the past.... The now and the future is what matters
While it is important to remember our history and what ancestors went through, making us the nation we are to day, not all good sadly. Whats done is done and there is no benefit in constantly bringing it up.
Look forward not back.
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This is ridiculous and pointless..There is not one country that has not done wrong to others be they the natives of that country or when trying to take over another...
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Glatlol: While it is important to remember our history and what ancestors went through, making us the nation we are to day, not all good sadly. Whats done is done and there is no benefit in constantly bringing it up.
Look forward not back.
Look forward not back.
chello daaaaahlinG!
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mindfful: chello daaaaahlinG!
hello lovely lady
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Its a little more complicated than one thinks so the debate has to take place.
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