Patriotism ( Archived) (260)

Jun 13, 2011 9:59 AM CST Patriotism
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Ccincy: Maybe a little bit overboard on your part.


You are entitled to your parochial viewpoint.grin angel devil devil
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Jun 13, 2011 10:00 AM CST Patriotism
georges35: you are older of me, explain me then what is patriotism?
Look it up!
Useless to have a thousand different Definitions about something!
Besides,a Communist can love his Country just as much as anyone else!
So can a Capitalist!
one doesn't exclude the other one!laugh
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Jun 13, 2011 10:00 AM CST Patriotism
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
jvaski: Just another example of you attempting to put words in my mouth - that I didn't say..........

Besides, I have decided to come live with you in Canada.....where there's free gov medical ......



You should go get some free gubment cheese each month. Illegals can tell you the pick up centers. laugh
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Jun 13, 2011 10:01 AM CST Patriotism
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
tomcatwarne: You are entitled to your parochial viewpoint.


It's obvious you don't like her.so why not just reframe from saying anything.tongue
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Jun 13, 2011 10:01 AM CST Patriotism
cherrygc
cherrygccherrygcAbu Halifa, Al Ahmadi Kuwait16 Threads 1 Polls 487 Posts
Conrad73: Look it up!
Useless to have a thousand different Definitions about something!
Besides,a Communist can love his Country just as much as anyone else!
So can a Capitalist!
one doesn't exclude the other one!


thumbs up thumbs up
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Jun 13, 2011 10:03 AM CST Patriotism
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Ccincy: It's obvious you don't like her.so why not just reframe from saying anything.



What makes you think that?????????cool cool angel angel angel angel angel
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Jun 13, 2011 10:05 AM CST Patriotism
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
tomcatwarne: What makes you think that?????????



Oh I don't know.Lucky guess I suppose.But carry on.grin
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Jun 13, 2011 10:33 AM CST Patriotism
biggles90000
biggles90000biggles90000kilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland154 Threads 17 Polls 4,582 Posts
54xmax: But you are from Ireland


Im British living in Ireland.
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Jun 13, 2011 10:51 AM CST Patriotism
georges35
georges35georges35genk, Limburg Belgium5 Posts
leigh2154: I am sorry, but your post is hysterically funny!!

Hysterical, get it?

is the second time that i ask somebody to answer me? just i recieve that i am wrong and funny, its not your lauguage or your ethnicity something patriotic??? then answer me something else?
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Jun 13, 2011 1:16 PM CST Patriotism
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
jvaski: Just another example of you attempting to put words in my mouth - that I didn't say......


Hardly. You said that ten years ago you stopped being proud to be an American.

jvaski: There was a time when I was that proud to be from USA.....and in the last ten years that changed some when I listened to people's perspectives from other countries in my travels


IOWs, my words are true; "It has no redeeming qualities as far as you are concerned though. Ten years ago it lost them and lost them so bad that you are not proud to be American. "

Unless of course you are proud to be an American and are just not saying you are. Which is it?

jvaski: Besides, I have decided to come live with you in Canada.....where there's free gov medical ......


It's not free. Our taxes are far higher than yours and, we have line ups with many of our people (a past PM included using government funds and transportation) seeking better quality health care in the US.
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Jun 13, 2011 1:24 PM CST Patriotism
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
cherrygc: I was bit confused by these contradictory statementsBut fortunately Mr X4fun made it clearOh Boy!!!


Don't be confused. If you read what I have written then you will understand.

A terrorist conducting a terrorist act seeks to terrorize the civilian populace in order to ferment distrust so that the population loses it's confidence in the government's ability to carry out it's prime mandate which is to protect the tax base.

Terrorists who attack a military target are conducting an act of insurgency. The action is not designed to kil civilians or ferment terrorism but rather score a military goal hence it is not an act of terrorism.

The attack on the KD was a military action designed to push the British out of their Mandate, not terrorize civilians even though civilians died.

I believe what you fail to understand is that the intent of actions and their targets is what defines them. One is to terrorize with civilians as the target and the other is to force action by targeting a military force.

If you look at the statements and the previous statements I made you will understand. professor
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Jun 13, 2011 1:32 PM CST Patriotism
cherrygc
cherrygccherrygcAbu Halifa, Al Ahmadi Kuwait16 Threads 1 Polls 487 Posts
Albertaghost: Don't be confused. If you read what I have written then you will understand.

A terrorist conducting a terrorist act seeks to terrorize the civilian populace in order to ferment distrust so that the population loses it's confidence in the government's ability to carry out it's prime mandate which is to protect the tax base.

Terrorists who attack a military target are conducting an act of insurgency. The action is not designed to kil civilians or ferment terrorism but rather score a military goal hence it is not an act of terrorism.

The attack on the KD was a military action designed to push the British out of their Mandate, not terrorize civilians even though civilians died.

I believe what you fail to understand is that the intent of actions and their targets is what defines them. One is to terrorize with civilians as the target and the other is to force action by targeting a military force.

If you look at the statements and the previous statements I made you will understand.
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Jun 13, 2011 1:33 PM CST Patriotism
cherrygc
cherrygccherrygcAbu Halifa, Al Ahmadi Kuwait16 Threads 1 Polls 487 Posts
Albertaghost: Don't be confused. If you read what I have written then you will understand.

A terrorist conducting a terrorist act seeks to terrorize the civilian populace in order to ferment distrust so that the population loses it's confidence in the government's ability to carry out it's prime mandate which is to protect the tax base.

Terrorists who attack a military target are conducting an act of insurgency. The action is not designed to kil civilians or ferment terrorism but rather score a military goal hence it is not an act of terrorism.

The attack on the KD was a military action designed to push the British out of their Mandate, not terrorize civilians even though civilians died.

I believe what you fail to understand is that the intent of actions and their targets is what defines them. One is to terrorize with civilians as the target and the other is to force action by targeting a military force.

If you look at the statements and the previous statements I made you will understand.

I guess then that is unfair to continue calling terrorist the Iraq resistance, after all they attack military targets
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Jun 13, 2011 1:34 PM CST Patriotism
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
chris27292729: So in the Syrian uprising we have patriotic demonstrators,in one hand,and patriotic supporters of the regime in the other.- Which one of the 2 is more patriotic???


Not for me to decide Chris.

chris27292729: In the Libyan case,we have patriotic rebels in one hand (rebels called by Alberta),and patriotic Qaddafi soldiers,in the other. Am also a patriot too,which one of the 2 examples is worth fighting for,or which side of the 2 examples i must take,to claim, am a REAL patriot??


well, let me know when you decide. All I know is that the rebels are fighting former government forces. As for who is more patriotic, who knows what is in their hearts.
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Jun 13, 2011 1:40 PM CST Patriotism
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
cherrygc: I guess then that is unfair to continue calling terrorist the Iraq resistance, after all they attack military targets


Absolutely correct! Those who attack US forces using what seems to some to be terrorist tactics as in IEDs and the like are using insurgent attacks and, are insurgents.

However, any attacks using terrorist methods and tactics on civiliians is terrorism and those conducting same are terrorists.

I explained this on page 8 and 9.
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Jun 14, 2011 2:32 AM CST Patriotism
BebeII
BebeIIBebeIIConcordville, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 1,965 Posts
leigh2154: Ridiculous statement.......
Lots of loony lefty's on this site...laugh
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Jun 14, 2011 2:35 AM CST Patriotism
BebeII
BebeIIBebeIIConcordville, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 1,965 Posts
cherrygc: I guess then that is unfair to continue calling terrorist the Iraq resistance, after all they attack military targets
Terrorism refers to the means adopted in fighting. Setting off a car bomb that kills civilians more than soldiers is completely stupid. The so called 'resistance' in Iraq killed far more of their own people than American soldiers.
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Jun 14, 2011 2:35 AM CST Patriotism
54xmax
54xmax54xmaxDublin, Ireland32 Threads 5 Polls 1,712 Posts
BebeII: Lots of loony lefty's on this site...


So which are you grin? Besides enforcing speed limit with Apache Helicopters grin - - -Talk about Lefty's grin
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Jun 14, 2011 2:43 AM CST Patriotism
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Lots of loony rightist's as well,and most of them more fanatical than their leftist's ones.-rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing yay yay
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Jun 14, 2011 2:43 AM CST Patriotism
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Lots of loony rightist's as well,and most of them more fanatical than their leftist's ones.-rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing yay yay
BebeII: Lots of loony lefty's on this site...
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