Patriotism (260)
54xmax: Sometimes, when it suits the bigger agenda - - - and sometimes America is the cause of all the misfortune that certain country has to suffer cos it did not please America's interests - - - -
That is another story...
I was simply picking up on the other gentleman's post.
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Bodecia: That is another story...
I was simply picking up on the other gentleman's post.
I was simply picking up on the other gentleman's post.
At least one of you people form across the pond agree with me Sort Off
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54xmax: At least one of you people form across the pond agree with me Sort Off
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jlw45: where did you get your history lesson, off the back of a cracker jacks box ?....
you should continue when you have your facts right...
you should continue when you have your facts right...
Then please enlighten me
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I3estman4u: I see your point and, yes, America isn't the only country to be brutal in their dealings with other countries and their people. And I hope you know I wasn't directing anything towards you personally.
sometimes you have to combat brutality with brutality...
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jlw45: sometimes you have to combat brutality with brutality...
Yes unfortuantely you are right
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for me patriotism is same as religious fundamentalism and natonalizm.coz its all about thinking that u r better than others cos of ur country is better than others.
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Rumyet: for me patriotism is same as religious fundamentalism and natonalizm.coz its all about thinking that u r better than others cos of ur country is better than others.
You got a point too - - - "Patriotism" is a very elusive tearm and to many people means many things
For some Patriot, for others a tratior, and in the end you can only hope that hitory wil judge you at least somewhat corectly
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54xmax: Then please enlighten me - - - -
well, i did'nt read all of your post because when i read "stealing texas from mexico", i knew your history lesson had come from some kind of nut case...so i stopped reading the rest...so all i can "enlighten" you on is that....there was a guy named santa anna...he was'nt a good guy ...there were alot of mexicans who died under his rule over texas...it was'nt just sam houston and jim bowie and col. travis that dies at the alamo...the were mexican citizens that fought to take texas from santa anna....not only at the alamo but every battle fought to gain texas independance...hell, you're not even the right color to a member of raza...
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54xmax: You got a point too - - - "Patriotism" is a very elusive tearm and to many people means many things
For some Patriot, for others a tratior, and in the end you can only hope that hitory wil judge you at least somewhat corectly
For some Patriot, for others a tratior, and in the end you can only hope that hitory wil judge you at least somewhat corectly
just remembered borats anthem of khazakhstan.
"Khazakhstan is the greatest country in the world
All other countries run by little girls"
real patriotism.isnt it?!
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Rumyet: for me patriotism is same as religious fundamentalism and natonalizm.coz its all about thinking that u r better than others cos of ur country is better than others.
noooo that's not it at all
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jlw45: well, i did'nt read all of your post because when i read "stealing texas from mexico", i knew your history lesson had come from some kind of nut case...so i stopped reading the rest...so all i can "enlighten" you on is that....there was a guy named santa anna...he was'nt a good guy ...there were alot of mexicans who died under his rule over texas...it was'nt just sam houston and jim bowie and col. travis that dies at the alamo...the were mexican citizens that fought to take texas from santa anna....not only at the alamo but every battle fought to gain texas independance...hell, you're not even the right color to a member of raza...
Yeh they were brave men and yeah I heard about Santa Ana
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Thread: Patriotism
Category: Current Events & Politics
Thread Author: gleneagle
Post Author: lostinspace
"The colonization of Texas as a Mexican state brought Anglos westward from the United States and Mexicans northward"
Perhaps you'd care to reread some basic American ,(or Mexican) history books on the subject of Texas. Texas was already a State in the Republic of Mexico which Mexico inherited as part of the former Spanish territory upon independence from Spain. It was also already settled by Spanish, Mexican and various indigenous natives, though sparsely. Mexico opened their state to settlers from the US and elsewhere. It was not an independent, nor free State as you imply by your wording. It reads as if Texas existed prior to Mexico, which it certainly did not.
Category: Current Events & Politics
Thread Author: gleneagle
Post Author: lostinspace
"The colonization of Texas as a Mexican state brought Anglos westward from the United States and Mexicans northward"
Perhaps you'd care to reread some basic American ,(or Mexican) history books on the subject of Texas. Texas was already a State in the Republic of Mexico which Mexico inherited as part of the former Spanish territory upon independence from Spain. It was also already settled by Spanish, Mexican and various indigenous natives, though sparsely. Mexico opened their state to settlers from the US and elsewhere. It was not an independent, nor free State as you imply by your wording. It reads as if Texas existed prior to Mexico, which it certainly did not.
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And now back to our regularly scheduled program....
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drbombay: ANY loss of life is tragic to say the least.
I agree completely with you but only about that by the way I am not implying your relish in civilians loosing their lives. I am think you are a good person that simply is wrong in some things
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drbombay: And now back to our regularly scheduled program....
Unbelievable! I just tuned in - just in time..
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54xmax: I agree completely with you but only about that by the way I am not implying your relish in civilians loosing their lives. I am think you are a good person that simply is wrong in some things
But then you would agree that you are wrong in some things too.
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solitare: Thread: Patriotism
Category: Current Events & Politics
Thread Author: gleneagle
Post Author: lostinspace
"The colonization of Texas as a Mexican state brought Anglos westward from the United States and Mexicans northward"Perhaps you'd care to reread some basic American ,(or Mexican) history books on the subject of Texas. Texas was already a State in the Republic of Mexico which Mexico inherited as part of the former Spanish territory upon independence from Spain. It was also already settled by Spanish, Mexican and various indigenous natives, though sparsely. Mexico opened their state to settlers from the US and elsewhere. It was not an independent, nor free State as you imply by your wording. It reads as if Texas existed prior to Mexico, which it certainly did not.
Category: Current Events & Politics
Thread Author: gleneagle
Post Author: lostinspace
"The colonization of Texas as a Mexican state brought Anglos westward from the United States and Mexicans northward"Perhaps you'd care to reread some basic American ,(or Mexican) history books on the subject of Texas. Texas was already a State in the Republic of Mexico which Mexico inherited as part of the former Spanish territory upon independence from Spain. It was also already settled by Spanish, Mexican and various indigenous natives, though sparsely. Mexico opened their state to settlers from the US and elsewhere. It was not an independent, nor free State as you imply by your wording. It reads as if Texas existed prior to Mexico, which it certainly did not.
After winning the "Texas Revolution", a war fought between Mexico and Texas from October 1835 - April1836, Texas became formally recognized by the US, Great Britain, France, and other countries as the Republic of Texas i.e. one star on the flag, "The Lone Star State".....Mexico, however, did not recognize Texas as a republic and turmoil continued. On December 29, 1845 Texas was annexed to the United States, becoming the 28th state in the Union. This event ultimately lead to the Mexican-American war....
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And then, they get slammed for it.
Sometimes, when it suits the bigger agenda - - - and sometimes America is the cause of all the misfortune that certain country has to suffer cos it did not please America's interests - - - -