Patriotism ( Archived) (260)

Jun 14, 2011 5:10 PM CST Patriotism
Blues63
Blues63Blues63Brisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
Conrad73: WTF is wrong with loving one's Country?


It's out of fashion atm. laugh
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Jun 14, 2011 5:12 PM CST Patriotism
Blues63: It's out of fashion atm.
I guess it is Hip these days to Crap one's Own Bed!laugh
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Jun 14, 2011 5:13 PM CST Patriotism
Conrad73: I guess it is Hip these days to Crap one's Own Bed!
Then complain about the Mess it makes¨.rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 14, 2011 5:13 PM CST Patriotism
Blues63
Blues63Blues63Brisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
Conrad73: I guess it is Hip these days to Crap one's Own Bed!


Yep, the 'Cultural Cringe' is the new black.laugh
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Jun 14, 2011 5:18 PM CST Patriotism
Blues63: Yep, the 'Cultural Cringe' is the new black.
laugh
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Jun 14, 2011 5:19 PM CST Patriotism
flpower
flpowerflpowerDenver, Colorado USA1 Threads 22 Posts
It is important to accept one's nationality. Patriotism goes above and beyond the concept of acceptance though i feel it is healthy as long as it does not lead to animosity towards people of other nationalities.
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Jun 14, 2011 5:22 PM CST Patriotism
Blues63
Blues63Blues63Brisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
flpower: It is important to accept one's nationality. Patriotism goes above and beyond the concept of acceptance though i feel it is healthy as long as it does not lead to animosity towards people of other nationalities.


This is it really, many seem unable to distinguish patriotism from nationalism, or even that to its extreme, jingoism.
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Jun 14, 2011 5:59 PM CST Patriotism
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
In response to: Ive met people in life who would regard themselves as Patriotic.
But the older I get I see it means different things to different people. What does it mean to you and how has that belief impacted on your life? Your thoughts!!


To my politics it means placing local interests above national interests, then placing national interests above international interests.

Personally, it's about respecting the history of my people and defining where my natural community lies. Which, for me, isn't in an abstract fancy - like the Socialist or Humanist believes - but within a cultural and core part of my being stemming from my own experience and the experience of loved ones.

Unfortunately, what Patriotism often means is keeping things as they are in the interests of a few. It can be purely reactionary.
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Jun 14, 2011 10:41 PM CST Patriotism
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
Conrad73: WTF is wrong with loving one's Country?


Everything.

Wonder if Canada would be interested in annexing some northern US states? I figure there is a lot of commonality and it would bring better government to the folks living there. They may even vote to join in.dancing
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Jun 14, 2011 11:31 PM CST Patriotism
mnowsa
mnowsamnowsaRajshahi, Rajshahi Division Bangladesh145 Threads 3 Polls 7,536 Posts
Paldi5: Everything.

Wonder if Canada would be interested in annexing some northern US states? I figure there is a lot of commonality and it would bring better government to the folks living there. They may even vote to join in.


wonder if canada would be interested in annexing Bangladesh because if canada does so, the hot weather of bangladesh will melt all its ice turning canada into a 'warm' countrygrin
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Jun 15, 2011 12:48 AM CST Patriotism
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
mnowsa: wonder if canada would be interested in annexing Bangladesh because if canada does so, the hot weather of bangladesh will melt all its ice turning canada into a 'warm' country


Not really. We're all pretty proud of our country and how we formed it and, managed to make it work so well. Don't need to annex other places or countries.

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Jun 15, 2011 1:04 AM CST Patriotism
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
Albertaghost: Not really. We're all pretty proud of our country and how we formed it and, managed to make it work so well. Don't need to annex other places or countries.


A lot of that is because you have gov sponsored health care ! beer
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Jun 15, 2011 1:10 AM CST Patriotism
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
jvaski: A lot of that is because you have gov sponsored health care!


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Jun 15, 2011 1:14 AM CST Patriotism
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
This should be a pretty good answer commin from the great one giggle
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Jun 15, 2011 1:18 AM CST Patriotism
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
jvaski: A lot of that is because you have gov sponsored health care !


We are the governmnet Jon and, pay for it by our labors. Nothing is free. And to show how lame some of it is, our own government leaders who tout it so highly have been caught seeking beter attention stateside.

Sides, we didn't have health care until Saskatchewan began a program in 1946 and other provinces began their own decades later so it can hardly be the reason why we became a successful democracy cut out of some of the harshest conditions on earth.
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Jun 15, 2011 2:28 AM CST Patriotism
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
mnowsa: wonder if canada would be interested in annexing Bangladesh because if canada does so, the hot weather of bangladesh will melt all its ice turning canada into a 'warm' country



For years now I've been trying to talk people into trading Saskatchewan, Manitoba, or some of the Maratinme provinces off for some islands in the Carribean. No luck yet, but I don't give up easily. laugh

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Jun 15, 2011 8:43 AM CST Patriotism
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
Albertaghost: We are the governmnet Jon and, pay for it by our labors. Nothing is free. And to show how lame some of it is, our own government leaders who tout it so highly have been caught seeking beter attention stateside.

Sides, we didn't have health care until Saskatchewan began a program in 1946 and other provinces began their own decades later so it can hardly be the reason why we became a successful democracy cut out of some of the harshest conditions on earth.


Soooooooooo.....You'de be happier paying an insurance company for your health care ....? confused
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Jun 15, 2011 8:52 AM CST Patriotism
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
Albertaghost: We are the governmnet Jon and, pay for it by our labors. Nothing is free. so it can hardly be the reason why we became a successful democracy cut out of some of the harshest conditions on earth.


Couldn't that be said by any people in any country ?
Do you have any concrete reasoning why your gov health care isn't any good ? dunno
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Jun 15, 2011 9:43 AM CST Patriotism
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
jvaski: Soooooooooo.....You'de be happier paying an insurance company for your health care ....?


Myself yes. Many others, no.

jvaski: Couldn't that be said by any people in any country ?


What, that they formed a sucessful democracy out of some of the harshest condiftions on earth? No, I doubt it.

jvaski: Do you have any concrete reasoning why your gov health care isn't any good ?


Thought I did, here it is again - And to show how lame some of it is, our own government leaders who tout it so highly have been caught seeking beter attention stateside.
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Jun 15, 2011 1:07 PM CST Patriotism
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
Albertaghost: And to show how lame some of it is, our own government leaders who tout it so highly have been caught seeking beter attention stateside.


Likewise here .....but because healthcare and surgery is so rediculously overpriced here that more are leaving the country for treatment and transplants etc.

dunno
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