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sharminidublin, Dublin Ireland83 Threads 1 Polls 2,918 Postssome would say that it was Michael collins who "invented" modern guerilla warfare? Would ye agree?
sharmini: interesting! Great thread, Biggles!
Thanks Sharmini i hold hundreds of records at home of every regiment in the British Army.
sharmini: some would say that it was Michael collins who "invented" modern guerilla warfare? Would ye agree?
yes i agree lov but i still belive he was a great man
biggles90000: In my records at home The Royal Tank Regiment 3rd battalion served in Ireland in 1920. so did the 5th armoured Car Companies the remainder were sent to India and the Middle East.
I'd find it hard to believe there were no armoured cars roaming about the country, we were at war of course. Actually wasnt there a story during the war of independance where the IRA stole a Whippet armoured car and tried to spring someone from Mountjoy? I think that was shortly before the truce! Take some balls to do that!! 
sharmini: some would say that it was Michael collins who "invented" modern guerilla warfare? Would ye agree?
I think the first ever army to invent guerilla warefar were the boer in the boer war 1899-1902 the British Army had to change tatics hence the reason why they got rid of there famous redcoats because boer snipers kept picking them off.
Cla35: yes i agree lov but i still belive he was a great man
A friend of mine got some work labouring on an old estate in the uk back in the 80s. Itwas owned by a retired army general. My pal was from northern ireland and the two of em had some great discussions about thr troubles.
The aul lad said that the only difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist was whether you were fighting alongside em or against em!
Green_Sleeves: I'd find it hard to believe there were no armoured cars roaming about the country, we were at war of course. Actually wasnt there a story during the war of independance where the IRA stole a Whippet armoured car and tried to spring someone from Mountjoy? I think that was shortly before the truce! Take some balls to do that!!
Brilliant book! And i think it mentions that episode too!
Green_Sleeves: I'd find it hard to believe there were no armoured cars roaming about the country, we were at war of course. Actually wasnt there a story during the war of independance where the IRA stole a Whippet armoured car and tried to spring someone from Mountjoy? I think that was shortly before the truce! Take some balls to do that!!
Some were based in kilkenny in stephen barracks aswell i think you see on the old black and white clip on Michael collins when there driving down the hill that is actually a inistioge in kilkenny near woodstock house.sharmini: A friend of mine got some work labouring on an old estate in the uk back in the 80s. Itwas owned by a retired army general. My pal was from northern ireland and the two of em had some great discussions about thr troubles.
The aul lad said that the only difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist was whether you were fighting alongside em or against em!
The aul lad said that the only difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist was whether you were fighting alongside em or against em!
true but my mother was in the british military and the good old ira tried to kill her she was lucky to live my old man was in a certain pub in guilford left five mins before well u know history and tell u what they love ireland more than u probally but what im saying is if u can forget sides u and see it from the rational point of view in them days they did what they belived was right and i agree collins bin laden were just looking after their own only way they could
biggles90000: Some were based in kilkenny in stephen barracks aswell i think you see on the old black and white clip on Michael collins when there driving down the hill that is actually a inistioge in kilkenny near woodstock house.
Excellent, thanks Shar!
Cant say I recall that clip Biggs, I've seen a few of the old Pathe reels, probably have seen it. Wouldnt mind a poke around a Whippet, they have ARR2 the 'Slieve na mBan' up in the Curragh, the one that was with Collins when he was killed!
sharmini: some would say that it was Michael collins who "invented" modern guerilla warfare? Would ye agree?
If by guerilla warfare you mean terrorism. Ha ha ha
Green_Sleeves: Excellent, thanks Shar! Cant say I recall that clip Biggs, I've seen a few of the old Pathe reels, probably have seen it. Wouldnt mind a poke around a Whippet, they have ARR2 the 'Slieve na mBan' up in the Curragh, the one that was with Collins when he was killed!
They had one in the Imperial war newseum years ago you could get inside and all jaysis they were tiny not much room to move around in.
howlingwolf: If by guerilla warfare you mean terrorism. Ha ha ha
A friend of mine got some work labouring on an old estate in the uk back in the 80s. Itwas owned by a retired army general. My pal was from northern ireland and the two of em had some great discussions about thr troubles.
The aul lad said that the only difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist was whether you were fighting alongside em or against em
so any way back to the point who is ur greatest military leader?
well I'm biased..but it would have to be Michael Collins for me!
Cla35: so any way back to the point who is ur greatest military leader?
Mine is Alexander The Great.
true i do belive he got srewed in history but then again history is written by the victors
do u ever watch the programe tanks on history shows how it was unbeliveable
[quote=sharmini
The aul lad said that the only difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist was whether you were fighting alongside em or against em
Yes indeed. When I use the word terrorist I am referring to the tactics and actions, not the political and emotional meaning often heaped on the word. The rights and wrongs of terrorism are certainly subjective. One interesting thing I have noticed is that the Founding Fathers in the United States who were reagarded as saintly until recently are now being painted in the negative terrorist light by Washington who sees their resistance to tyranny as a bad influence. That says more about the sort of government in the US than it does about terrorism or the Founding Fathers. Am I going off topic? Well seven pages it's about time someone hijacked this thread and crashed it into a building. Ha ha
The aul lad said that the only difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist was whether you were fighting alongside em or against em
Yes indeed. When I use the word terrorist I am referring to the tactics and actions, not the political and emotional meaning often heaped on the word. The rights and wrongs of terrorism are certainly subjective. One interesting thing I have noticed is that the Founding Fathers in the United States who were reagarded as saintly until recently are now being painted in the negative terrorist light by Washington who sees their resistance to tyranny as a bad influence. That says more about the sort of government in the US than it does about terrorism or the Founding Fathers. Am I going off topic? Well seven pages it's about time someone hijacked this thread and crashed it into a building. Ha ha
biggles90000: Russian T-34 were the Panzer Busters no i didnt like U571 i tought Daz Boot was way better another great film as to be Sink The Bismarck. I grew up mate with a military family that were i get the interest the from.
right lads im of to the bed nite all.
right lads im of to the bed nite all.
yea but the only reason the t-34 was so great was cause the angled the armour which is still something they do today so minamalised the damaged cause could not get a direct hit was always directed off no matter the strike something the usa hated cause they gave them the tank to start with and didnt think of it but dont get me started on the ussr against the usa military skill ussr always wins goodnight man
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