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Aug 30, 2011 9:02 PM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
mercy
mercymercyKuala Lumpur, Malaysia7 Threads 95 Posts
I need your help on the following sentences used by my students in their exam held last week.

1. "I am in the pink."
This is something new to me as I have never used it nor heard of it before. I checked the Oxford dictionary and the idiom is
correct.
So if this is the correct form of usage, then what happens to the idiom we have been using all these decades -
"I am in the pink of health."? Is this incorrect and should I tell my students to stop using this idiom?

2. "We planted trees and flowers."
I feel that this sentence is incorrect because I feel that a flower is a part of a plant and therefore logically we can't plant flowers.
Is this some form of expression that is grammatically correct and acceptable?

3. "I planted some sleek trees."
I taught my students the word sleek a couple of weeks ago, namely referring to cars. But is it acceptable for trees?
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Aug 30, 2011 9:44 PM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
mickybwoy
mickybwoymickybwoysheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK31 Threads 2,075 Posts
and you teachconfused
dont ask me..roll eyes
were all thickconfused
tongue
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Aug 30, 2011 9:51 PM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
mercy
mercymercyKuala Lumpur, Malaysia7 Threads 95 Posts
mickybwoy: and you teach
dont ask me..
were all thick


shan'tdoh
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Aug 30, 2011 10:09 PM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
Colette88
Colette88Colette88Stoughton, Wisconsin USA3 Posts
mickybwoy: and you teach
dont ask me..
were all thick
Speak for yourself. What a gentleman, wouldn't you say?
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Aug 30, 2011 10:21 PM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
mickybwoy
mickybwoymickybwoysheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK31 Threads 2,075 Posts
Colette88: Speak for yourself. What a gentleman, wouldn't you say?
yes he seems like a nice chapgrin
i was speaking by myselflaugh
CHILLAXsigh roll eyes
we aint all here to be over seriousdoh
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Aug 30, 2011 10:44 PM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
rizlaredonline now!
rizlaredonline now!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
mercy: I need your help on the following sentences used by my students in their exam held last week.

1. "I am in the pink."
This is something new to me as I have never used it nor heard of it before. I checked the Oxford dictionary and the idiom is
correct.
So if this is the correct form of usage, then what happens to the idiom we have been using all these decades -
"I am in the pink of health."? Is this incorrect and should I tell my students to stop using this idiom?

Both forms are correct, but the most commonly used is "In the pink"

2. "We planted trees and flowers."
I feel that this sentence is incorrect because I feel that a flower is a part of a plant and therefore logically we can't plant flowers.
Is this some form of expression that is grammatically correct and acceptable?

The word Plant in your sentence is using the verb "to plant something" to describe a flower as a plant is using the noun.

3. "I planted some sleek trees."
I taught my students the word sleek a couple of weeks ago, namely referring to cars. But is it acceptable for trees?

Sleek means smooth, no irregularity, shiny, like a polished wooden surface, you could use to describe a tree that has a very smooth bark maybe, a better idea would be to use it to describe a row of neatly planted trees that looked sleek, ( in perfect Symmetry.)
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Aug 31, 2011 2:40 AM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
daisy333
daisy333daisy333Sydney, New South Wales Australia28 Threads 7 Polls 514 Posts
mercy: I need your help on the following sentences used by my students in their exam held last week.

1. "I am in the pink."
This is something new to me as I have never used it nor heard of it before. I checked the Oxford dictionary and the idiom is
correct.
So if this is the correct form of usage, then what happens to the idiom we have been using all these decades -
"I am in the pink of health."? Is this incorrect and should I tell my students to stop using this idiom?

2. "We planted trees and flowers."
I feel that this sentence is incorrect because I feel that a flower is a part of a plant and therefore logically we can't plant flowers.
Is this some form of expression that is grammatically correct and acceptable?

3. "I planted some sleek trees."
I taught my students the word sleek a couple of weeks ago, namely referring to cars. But is it acceptable for trees?


Good advice from everyone so far. I agree.

Sleek trees is not incorrect technically but as others have pointed out, it is a strange descriptor to choose.

I would generally use the word sleek to describe something dark but also velvety or smooth, like a car as you point out - a cat is another good example. I don't think velvety or smooth is what your student meant - but if she did, then sleek is the right word. :-)
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Aug 31, 2011 2:48 AM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
ADRIAN_MCINTYRE
ADRIAN_MCINTYREADRIAN_MCINTYREMunich, Bavaria Germany7 Posts
mickybwoy: and you teach
dont ask me..
were all thick


laugh You are from yorkshire what do you know about oxford english?laugh tongue just kidding hug
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Aug 31, 2011 2:56 AM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
darkthunder
darkthunderdarkthunderTaipei, Taiwan1 Posts
'I am in the pink' and 'I am in the pink of health' are both correct.

Yes, you can plant flowers. It is common to say this. "I planted some flowers in my garden."

"I planted some sleek trees." This does not sound right. One rarely hears trees referred to as being sleek. The grammar is correct but it sounds awkward.
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Aug 31, 2011 4:23 AM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
"In the pink," is a general term which can refer to anything from financial or romantic security as well as being generally healthy of body, mind and spirit. To be honest, it's not a phrase that's used very often these days.

The word, 'sleek,' is somewhat double edged. It can mean sharp or well polished but there are undertones of being too good to be true or wholesome. It is a word of exaggeration. Although, it is grammatically correct to say, "Sleek trees," verbally it just doesn't look right. A salesman's talk can be described as sleek or even a fast car but not really a tree.

Now the plant! If I use the word plant as a noun, then it refers to the whole item: roots, stalks, leaves and flowers. The flower is the open bud, the coloured bit that is open for pollination.

Colloquially, We tend to describe the whole thing as a flower such as a daffodil but I think it's a wrong description.

Finally, "Plant," when used as a verb can refer to the act of puting any flora or fauna into the ground. So you can plant trees, potatoes, daffodils, carrots, hydrangeas, etc till your heart's content.

Sometimes we even joke about planting people when we bury them.laugh
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Aug 31, 2011 6:19 AM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
Great comments!

We are talking about “Slang Language”. Many different Cultures describe what they see and hear according to the environment and customs of their surroundings or what they can relate to from others.

A classic example is the phrase “In the Pink’. The phrase was brought to the attention of American’s and others around the world decades ago from a product called Pepto-Bismol. This over-the-counter invention revolutionized the Medical Industry by providing relief for stomach upset.

Pepto-Bismol is a thick purple liquid. Through commercial advertisement came the phrase “feel in the pink”. Many people think of the product when they feel well and use the term to describe other feely good experiences.
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Aug 31, 2011 6:28 AM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
Corsega
CorsegaCorsegaManchester, Lancashire, England UK4 Posts
1 The "I.m in the pink" is perfectly acceptable ;the "of health" is understood

2 Is perfectly O.K.Plants aren;t flowers ,it is quite O.K.Afraid you're wrong !

3 Trees aren't sleek ...a young tree is a sapling ,which they probably mean .
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Aug 31, 2011 6:32 AM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
Then there is Poetic License!laugh
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Aug 31, 2011 6:51 AM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
its whats called.....reigon,lly...slang words.as a cockney (east.london)..if i said to my mate-;hows the trouble.and strife....???...he would say...shes fine thanks....trouble/strife...= wife.......not english grammer...but understandable to us......
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Aug 31, 2011 7:00 AM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
thumbs up Conrad

Poetic justice…you won’t find my definition in any Dictionary: The right to choose one’s words to describe the feelings and interpretations of past and present experiences.

Are Flowers Plants? Yes indeed, they also grow on plants and trees.

High Definition 1080p Video of Norfolk Botanical Gardens --6-4-2011-3-revised.m2ts

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adj., sleek·er, sleek·est.
1.Smooth and lustrous as if polished; glossy: brushed her hair until it was sleek.
2.Well-groomed and neatly tailored.
3.Healthy or well-fed; thriving.
4.Polished or smooth in manner, especially in an unctuous way; slick.
tr.v., sleeked, sleek·ing, sleeks.
1.To make sleek; slick: sleeked his hair with pomade.
2.To gloss over; conceal.
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Aug 31, 2011 7:15 AM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
Nikogas
NikogasNikogasMetro, Oregon USA46 Threads 5 Polls 4,037 Posts
mercy: I need your help on the following sentences used by my students in their exam held last week.

1. "I am in the pink."
This is something new to me as I have never used it nor heard of it before. I checked the Oxford dictionary and the idiom is
correct.
So if this is the correct form of usage, then what happens to the idiom we have been using all these decades -
"I am in the pink of health."? Is this incorrect and should I tell my students to stop using this idiom?

2. "We planted trees and flowers."



I feel that this sentence is incorrect because I feel that a flower is a part of a plant and therefore logically we can't plant flowers.
Is this some form of expression that is grammatically correct and acceptable?

3. "I planted some sleek trees."
I taught my students the word sleek a couple of weeks ago, namely referring to cars. But is it acceptable for trees?



1 "I am in the pink" Slang, or idiom used more in the UK. I have not heard it in the usa.

2. it is a correct senetence. Flowers are plants and you can buy seeds to plant them,,,there are 100's of varieties.

3. "sleek" trees?? explain it is not a correct use of the Adjective. Ask them to define "sleek" then ask them to in writing explain how a tree can be sleek. Also you could tell them it is just not used for a "tree" lol,,,but be careful,,,they might tell you that the leaves are sleek and quite shiny as they glisten in the morning sun. And that would be correct.
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Aug 31, 2011 7:16 AM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
johnaustin123: Conrad

Poetic justice…you won’t find my definition in any Dictionary: The right to choose one’s words to describe the feelings and interpretations of past and present experiences.

Are Flowers Plants? Yes indeed, they also grow on plants and trees.

High Definition 1080p Video of Norfolk Botanical Gardens --6-4-2011-3-revised.m2ts

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adj., sleek·er, sleek·est.
1.Smooth and lustrous as if polished; glossy: brushed her hair until it was sleek.
2.Well-groomed and neatly tailored.
3.Healthy or well-fed; thriving.
4.Polished or smooth in manner, especially in an unctuous way; slick.
tr.v., sleeked, sleek·ing, sleeks.
1.To make sleek; slick: sleeked his hair with pomade.
2.To gloss over; conceal.
thanks john . for showing that video.........breath.taking......peter.thumbs up thumbs up
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Aug 31, 2011 7:27 AM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
mercy: shan't
doin better than me,i hated grammar,etc.never took typing also lol,wish i had.
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Aug 31, 2011 7:44 AM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
Conrad73: Then there is Poetic License!


That's "licence," outside the US.laugh
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Aug 31, 2011 8:23 AM CST ENGLISH GRAMMAR TEACHERS PLEASE HELP
hairymonkey
hairymonkeyhairymonkeyWoBurn, Massachusetts USA38 Threads 11 Polls 254 Posts
mercy: "We planted trees and flowers."

a flower is a part of a plant and therefore logically we can't plant flowers.


The word "flower" can be used to mean "flowering plant".

People think of the flower and the plant it grows on as the same thing.
The flower from a rose plant, a daffodil plant, or a daisy plant is called a rose, daffodil, or daisy.
In a vase or bouquet, the blossom alone is called by the name of the plant.

If you plant roses, daffodils, daisies, you are putting the roots of the plant into the soil, so that the whole plant will grow and produce flowers.
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