Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart (21)

Sep 11, 2011 8:21 PM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
I lost my father to cancer. Unfortunately medical science treat cancer by cutting out the tumour and killing the cancerous cells. Cancer is the symptom of a problem in the body, there is an imbalance that need to be restored. There have been many promising achievements in Hungary also, though they never became as famous as this Polish doctor.

Here is one, I met the guy when I was at uni and even wanted to work for him (one of my uni teachers gave up his career to work for him). His theory was that at every time there are cancerous cells created in the body, but immunity kills them, that is, there is a tumour activity and an immune activity, with the latter shall be greater than the former in healthy people. Once tumour activity becomes greater than the immune activity you may still not have a tumour, but you can potentially develop one. Throughout years of study he found (by also developing a laser microscope to observe the various cells) that the surface of cancerous cells were hairy, while those of the healthy ones smooth. It means that healthy cells only multiply (ie when you cut yourself) until they notice that there are neighbouring cells, however, because cancerous cells are covered by this hairy substance, there is a breakdown in communication and they cannot notice neighbouring cells, therefore the keep multiplying infinitively leading to tumours. The hairy surface also keeps them from being recognised by the immune system.

After long experimentation he found a safe natural substance that cleared off the hairy surface and thus the immune system could get rid of the cancerous cells.

By pouring his own substance into his coffee and drinking it, he challenged medical profession to do the same. His substance was tried on people discharged from hospitals, who only had 3 months to live. They found that 1/3 completely recovered, 1/3 stagnated (didn't become worse) and 1/3 died. They concluded that those whose immune system was not damaged by chemotherapy and radiation therapy had a good chance of completely recovering, while it couldn't help those with severely damaged immune system. But healing 1/3 of the people, on whom hospitals already have given up, was still an excellent result.

Here is their English site if you are interested.

Sep 11, 2011 8:21 PM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
The government tried to suppress them and force them to reveal what their substance was. They refused and rather moved their operation abroad. I don't know where they operate from today.

The guy also developed a blood test that showed with 98-99% accuracy if the tumour activity was greater in your body than the immune activity required to fight it. This simple test was trialled on tens of thousands of soldiers in the military hospitals and they found that 3 blood tests were needed to get the 98-99% accuracy.

We gave this substance to my father, he couldn't take it because he already had severe stomach ulcers from the chemotherapeutic tablets he was taking.

There are many other natural substances one can take that helps various ways, one is the apricot seed banned in QLD because the skin contains complex cyanides - the exact effective substance that kills cancerous cells. The healthy cells are unable to break it down, so it is completely safe to eat (I used to eat heaps in my childhood, never had any problem from them), however, cancerous cells break it down to cyan which in turn kills them. You can also find it in almond seeds (not yet banned), but maybe in lower quantity.

Shark or bovine cartilage are also known to help, they block the development of new blood vessels, so because tumours cannot grow new ones which they need to ensure the continuous supply of nutrition for their fast growth, they eventually starve to death.

There are reports that many cancers are caused by particular viral or bacterial infections, and that cancer eventually develops in earlier inflamed areas, so anti-inflammatories reduce the chance of cancer. Once of the safest one is Aspirin (originally made from plant extracts), though it can cause non-symptomatic ulcer in the stomach. However, my doctor friend noted a while ago, that at a seminar he attended they were informed that all pain killers cause non-symptomatic ulcer, but the medical profession is afraid to notify the public.

Ops! Is it the medical profession or is it the pharmaceutical companies? These latter ones are making a huge and regular profit, so their interest is to leave you hooked to their products for life.
Sep 12, 2011 12:30 AM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
Faithe
FaitheFaithePortland, Victoria Australia5 Threads 4,169 Posts
revealer24: The government tried to suppress them and force them to reveal what their substance was. They refused and rather moved their operation abroad. I don't know where they operate from today.

The guy also developed a blood test that showed with 98-99% accuracy if the tumour activity was greater in your body than the immune activity required to fight it. This simple test was trialled on tens of thousands of soldiers in the military hospitals and they found that 3 blood tests were needed to get the 98-99% accuracy.

We gave this substance to my father, he couldn't take it because he already had severe stomach ulcers from the chemotherapeutic tablets he was taking.

There are many other natural substances one can take that helps various ways, one is the apricot seed banned in QLD because the skin contains complex cyanides - the exact effective substance that kills cancerous cells. The healthy cells are unable to break it down, so it is completely safe to eat (I used to eat heaps in my childhood, never had any problem from them), however, cancerous cells break it down to cyan which in turn kills them. You can also find it in almond seeds (not yet banned), but maybe in lower quantity.

Shark or bovine cartilage are also known to help, they block the development of new blood vessels, so because tumours cannot grow new ones which they need to ensure the continuous supply of nutrition for their fast growth, they eventually starve to death.

There are reports that many cancers are caused by particular viral or bacterial infections, and that cancer eventually develops in earlier inflamed areas, so anti-inflammatories reduce the chance of cancer. Once of the safest one is Aspirin (originally made from plant extracts), though it can cause non-symptomatic ulcer in the stomach. However, my doctor friend noted a while ago, that at a seminar he attended they were informed that all pain killers cause non-symptomatic ulcer, but the medical profession is afraid to notify the public.

Ops! Is it the medical profession or is it the pharmaceutical companies? These latter ones are making a huge and regular profit, so their interest is to leave you hooked to their products for life.


High doses of vitamin E combined with vitamin C have shrunk tumors in dogs and in some cases cured it. In the cases where it just shrunk if taken off the E & C the tumors began to grow again. Once back on the vitamins the tumors shrunk again.
Sep 12, 2011 3:41 AM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
Years ago, while at at a yoga class, the teacher was giving a meditation session, and within all that calming talk, she thought to add something along the lines,

that the body produces cancer cells all the time, but if we dont worry, be peaceful, unstressed, etc.. it will be alright...

I really dont know if its true, but she was a lovely lovely soul,

Funny how you never forget somethings...

rose
Sep 12, 2011 4:09 AM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
I don’t have any natural remedies for cancer and I don’t know where I could find any info to be able to back it up.

BUT after the 2nd ww there was a major outbreak of TB in Germany. Many people use to use dog fat, simular to pork fat as part of their daily diet, swearing, it brings about a cure.
Sep 12, 2011 4:14 AM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
bluejay2011
bluejay2011bluejay2011SE, Queensland Australia5 Threads 1,421 Posts
AgentAjax: I don’t have any natural remedies for cancer and I don’t know where I could find any info to be able to back it up.

BUT after the 2nd ww there was a major outbreak of TB in Germany. Many people use to use dog fat, simular to pork fat as part of their daily diet, swearing, it brings about a cure.


Eeew can't eat dog

Love dim sim tho

grin
Sep 12, 2011 4:16 AM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
bluejay2011: Eeew can't eat dog

Love dim sim tho
laugh
Sep 12, 2011 8:18 AM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
Martia
MartiaMartiabenalla, Victoria Australia141 Threads 1 Polls 2,888 Posts
AgentAjax: I don’t have any natural remedies for cancer and I don’t know where I could find any info to be able to back it up.

BUT after the 2nd ww there was a major outbreak of TB in Germany. Many people use to use dog fat, simular to pork fat as part of their daily diet, swearing, it brings about a cure.


Oh my god ....doesent bear thinking aboutvery mad very mad very mad crying
Sep 12, 2011 5:04 PM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
Faithe
FaitheFaithePortland, Victoria Australia5 Threads 4,169 Posts
Martia: Oh my god ....doesent bear thinking about


OMG...I agree Martia very mad very mad very mad
Sep 12, 2011 6:22 PM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
AgentAjax: I don’t have any natural remedies for cancer and I don’t know where I could find any info to be able to back it up.

BUT after the 2nd ww there was a major outbreak of TB in Germany. Many people use to use dog fat, simular to pork fat as part of their daily diet, swearing, it brings about a cure.


I am sure it helped laugh

They didn't die from TB. It saved them.

They died from the dog fat rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 12, 2011 7:55 PM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
AgentAjax: I don’t have any natural remedies for cancer and I don’t know where I could find any info to be able to back it up.

BUT after the 2nd ww there was a major outbreak of TB in Germany. Many people use to use dog fat, simular to pork fat as part of their daily diet, swearing, it brings about a cure.


get hold of book called "Back to Eden" has lots of old American remedies, its got lot on the subject.

From memory our body is able to excrete poison out through the pours of our skin, lots of showers (half doz or more daily) helps, cleansing drinking red clover tea a diet of freshly picked vegetable. Used to be someone in Cairns that helped lot people utilizing that sort of treatment
Sep 12, 2011 9:05 PM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
islandgirl62
islandgirl62islandgirl62somewhere in, Queensland Australia12 Threads 1,601 Posts
AgentAjax: I don’t have any natural remedies for cancer and I don’t know where I could find any info to be able to back it up.

BUT after the 2nd ww there was a major outbreak of TB in Germany. Many people use to use dog fat, simular to pork fat as part of their daily diet, swearing, it brings about a cure.


Natural Remedies:-

Recently a link between excessive meat eating and cancer has been explained by Dr. Williard J. Visek a research scientist at Cornell University. The problem, according to Dr. Visek, is ammonia the carcinogenic by-product of meat digestion.

Although cancer is increasing at an alarming rate and it can be prevented, by keeping our body’s immune system up. Much poisoning of the body has been caused by the use of improper foods, such as meat, dairy products, white sugar, white flour, white rice, along with the use of liquor, tobacco, coffee, soda and all other denatured foods. Good wholesome food builds good blood, where as unwholesome foods builds a poor quality of blood. Cancer will not develop where there is a pure blood stream and the body’s immune system is functioning at its optimum.

For years the National Cancer Institute held fast to the principal that diet had nothing to do with cancer. Recent overwhelming evidence has forced them to change their mind. They now even recommend that one consume certain fruits and vegetables in order to prevent cancer. “Fruits, such as oranges and bananas, and leafy green and yellow vegetables, including carrots and broccoli, all contain cancer preventing vitamins and fiber, and should be a part of everyone’s daily diet”, says the National Cancer Institute.

Source: -

Also has some easy to make recipes as well....
Sep 12, 2011 9:19 PM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
islandgirl62
islandgirl62islandgirl62somewhere in, Queensland Australia12 Threads 1,601 Posts
my greatest belief, and it hasn't got medical and or scientific backing - just something that over time I have paid attention to -

Don't eat genetically modified food, and do everything in moderation...

my kids laugh when someone asks me about margarine

"one molecule away from being plastic"

Plus having dropped some considerable weight - I did that by reducing bread, having butter, drinking full cream milk, fresh foods and veges (or frozen) I may not weigh the 58kgs when I was 26years of age, but I am still in the healthy weight zone
Sep 12, 2011 10:08 PM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
islandgirl62: my greatest belief, and it hasn't got medical and or scientific backing - just something that over time I have paid attention to -

Don't eat genetically modified food, and do everything in moderation...

my kids laugh when someone asks me about margarine

"one molecule away from being plastic"

Plus having dropped some considerable weight - I did that by reducing bread, having butter, drinking full cream milk, fresh foods and veges (or frozen) I may not weigh the 58kgs when I was 26years of age, but I am still in the healthy weight zone


Yeah, margarine is not quite natural. It is made of vegetable oils by hydrogenasing them through chemical reaction. Butter is way better.

I may add that a lot of people try to completely cut fat out of their diet and drink skim milk. However, you can only get fat soluble vitamins from food that contain fat, for example, from full cream milk.
Sep 13, 2011 12:08 AM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
islandgirl62
islandgirl62islandgirl62somewhere in, Queensland Australia12 Threads 1,601 Posts
so in essence - in my opinion - eat like you ate when a child or a grandchild - simple meals full of goodness -

however, I still cheat... haven't got into the vegatarian, organic foods grin
Sep 13, 2011 4:50 AM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
revealer24: I am sure it helped

They didn't die from TB. It saved them.

They died from the dog fat


Irina (47) has had tuberculosis (TB) for eight years. She completed the regular DOTS course and to maintain her health she ate dog’s fat – a popular local remedy, which is widely believed to heal TB. One year after, she had a relapse. Another DOTS course and another relapse followed. The next course after that Irina failed to complete her treatment. Since 2004, when she once again felt bad, her life has turned into a succession of visits to TB hospitals, with very short intermissions. “I am tired of being on treatment all the time”, Irina says. “The same drugs that I take every year simply don’t help me.”

Im glad I didn’t imagine it.. laugh


Sep 13, 2011 4:59 AM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
islandgirl62
islandgirl62islandgirl62somewhere in, Queensland Australia12 Threads 1,601 Posts
AgentAjax: Irina (47) has had tuberculosis (TB) for eight years. She completed the regular DOTS course and to maintain her health she ate dog’s fat – a popular local remedy, which is widely believed to heal TB. One year after, she had a relapse. Another DOTS course and another relapse followed. The next course after that Irina failed to complete her treatment. Since 2004, when she once again felt bad, her life has turned into a succession of visits to TB hospitals, with very short intermissions. “I am tired of being on treatment all the time”, Irina says. “The same drugs that I take every year simply don’t help me.”

Im glad I didn’t imagine it..


laugh
Sep 13, 2011 5:16 AM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
AgentAjax: Irina (47) has had tuberculosis (TB) for eight years. She completed the regular DOTS course and to maintain her health she ate dog’s fat – a popular local remedy, which is widely believed to heal TB. One year after, she had a relapse. Another DOTS course and another relapse followed. The next course after that Irina failed to complete her treatment. Since 2004, when she once again felt bad, her life has turned into a succession of visits to TB hospitals, with very short intermissions. “I am tired of being on treatment all the time”, Irina says. “The same drugs that I take every year simply don’t help me.”

Im glad I didn’t imagine it..


Poor dogs... at least they didn't get the TB...
Sep 14, 2011 4:43 AM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
Martia: Oh my god ....doesent bear thinking about


I have heard that beer cures most problems.cheers

Makes ugly women more beautiful (in the eye of the beer-holder).
Makes men more intelligent by killing off all the useless brain cells (Law: Survival of the Fittest - Norm, from Cheers).
Makes men sleep when women want to sleep.


Just trying to look at positives.banana sad flower
Sep 14, 2011 6:16 AM CST Cancer - any natural remedies? - multipart
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
wash2u: I have heard that beer cures most problems.

Makes ugly women more beautiful (in the eye of the beer-holder).
Makes men more intelligent by killing off all the useless brain cells (Law: Survival of the Fittest - Norm, from Cheers).
Makes men sleep when women want to sleep.Just trying to look at positives.


Beer fixes everything. Check it out how it works rolling on the floor laughing

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