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Konigsberg: Great solution
But why not to make it reasonable for every oil country to have a right to sell their oil to whoever they want. And everyone will be happy.
But why not to make it reasonable for every oil country to have a right to sell their oil to whoever they want. And everyone will be happy.
They all do. Except for those that violate UN resolutions on their nuclear programs. Then those the US and EU sanction. I could care less who Nigeria or Brazil or Venezula sell their crude to. But Iran now.....
if keeping some Iranian crude in Iran, changes their course on staring WWIII with a nuclear strike on Israel.....then hey plug Iran's pipeline with concrete and drain their crude tanks in the sands of Iran.
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Konigsberg: Morning everyone!
I have never created a single thread in Current Events and Politics section. So here goes my virginity along with a question.I would like to know your opinions on:
1. Is it possible,financially, for USA to run three wars: Afghanistan, continued presents in Iraq and now a huge chance to start a war in Iran?
I hope Iran will not block Hormuz Strait!2. How it is going to affect the lives of USA citizens? Sorry, but I do have little time to be on Forums ... so I will not make a good host maybe someone can take over. If this topic will be any interest to you. Peace and prosperity to every single country, I wish!
I have never created a single thread in Current Events and Politics section. So here goes my virginity along with a question.I would like to know your opinions on:
1. Is it possible,financially, for USA to run three wars: Afghanistan, continued presents in Iraq and now a huge chance to start a war in Iran?
I hope Iran will not block Hormuz Strait!2. How it is going to affect the lives of USA citizens? Sorry, but I do have little time to be on Forums ... so I will not make a good host maybe someone can take over. If this topic will be any interest to you. Peace and prosperity to every single country, I wish!
1. Yes, it's always possible for governments to make war, money has nothing to do with their abilities to deploy troops since they're even now inventing money that don't really exist, and if it's in the best interests of the Globalist Mafia then they will coerce the U.S, Israel and Britain to engage Iran or provoke them to make the first move (block the Strait or attempt an assassination) or stage a False Flag and blame it on Iran.
I see a False Flag coming very soon, I just hope not so many people will be killed this time around.
2. As far as it affecting U.S citizens all the prognostications aren't yet in but they already know that oil prices will jump to record high which means $5 or even $6 a gallon ($7 in California), mass movements of protesters in the streets, mass arrests of dissidents, muzzling of the press, more False Flag Terror attacks and then real terror attacks on U.S soil, assassinations of certain leaders of dissension around the world and the nightmare will not stop there.
On the bright side, there'll be plenty of jobs once it's all said and done, if there's anyone left standing.
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Mermaidon: 1. Yes, it's always possible for governments to make war, money has nothing to do with their abilities to deploy troops since they're even now inventing money that don't really exist, and if it's in the best interests of the Globalist Mafia then they will coerce the U.S, Israel and Britain to engage Iran or provoke them to make the first move (block the Strait or attempt an assassination) or stage a False Flag and blame it on Iran.
I see a False Flag coming very soon, I just hope not so many people will be killed this time around.
2. As far as it affecting U.S citizens all the prognostications aren't yet in but they already know that oil prices will jump to record high which means $5 or even $6 a gallon ($7 in California), mass movements of protesters in the streets, mass arrests of dissidents, muzzling of the press, more False Flag Terror attacks and then real terror attacks on U.S soil, assassinations of certain leaders of dissension around the world and the nightmare will not stop there.
On the bright side, there'll be plenty of jobs once it's all said and done, if there's anyone left standing.
I see a False Flag coming very soon, I just hope not so many people will be killed this time around.
2. As far as it affecting U.S citizens all the prognostications aren't yet in but they already know that oil prices will jump to record high which means $5 or even $6 a gallon ($7 in California), mass movements of protesters in the streets, mass arrests of dissidents, muzzling of the press, more False Flag Terror attacks and then real terror attacks on U.S soil, assassinations of certain leaders of dissension around the world and the nightmare will not stop there.
On the bright side, there'll be plenty of jobs once it's all said and done, if there's anyone left standing.
I just remembered that Brussels is home of NATO.....that seems to me to be a good target for a smuggled Iranain nuc....in Islamic terrorist attack.
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ttom500: I just remembered that Brussels is home of NATO.....that seems to me to be a good target for a smuggled Iranain nuc....in Islamic terrorist attack.
Sure, it's a good target for a False Flag or a real terrorist attack. But then again, they're not short on targets, just short on compassion, Love and Human decency.
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Konigsberg: Morning everyone!
I have never created a single thread in Current Events and Politics section. So here goes my virginity along with a question.I would like to know your opinions on:
1. Is it possible,financially, for USA to run three wars: Afghanistan, continued presents in Iraq and now a huge chance to start a war in Iran?
I hope Iran will not block Hormuz Strait!2. How it is going to affect the lives of USA citizens? Sorry, but I do have little time to be on Forums ... so I will not make a good host maybe someone can take over. If this topic will be any interest to you. Peace and prosperity to every single country, I wish!
I have never created a single thread in Current Events and Politics section. So here goes my virginity along with a question.I would like to know your opinions on:
1. Is it possible,financially, for USA to run three wars: Afghanistan, continued presents in Iraq and now a huge chance to start a war in Iran?
I hope Iran will not block Hormuz Strait!2. How it is going to affect the lives of USA citizens? Sorry, but I do have little time to be on Forums ... so I will not make a good host maybe someone can take over. If this topic will be any interest to you. Peace and prosperity to every single country, I wish!
I read somewhere that the Iran war would be financed partly by some Arab states, so it would not be too great burden to US. As for US citizens, their lives would not be affected too much, may be just some more curses from Arabs?
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joyaepace: I read somewhere that the Iran war would be financed partly by some Arab states, so it would not be too great burden to US. As for US citizens, their lives would not be affected too much, may be just some more curses from Arabs? But do American citizens care about them when it is about 'America's national interest?'
What Iran war? What is going on is Iran violating UNSC Resolutions voted on by the world and, various countries enacting actions short of violence to attempt Iran to adhere to the resolutions which they have in principal by being a member of the UN agreed they would comply with.
So, what war do you speak of?
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Albertaghost: What Iran war? What is going on is Iran violating UNSC Resolutions voted on by the world and, various countries enacting actions short of violence to attempt Iran to adhere to the resolutions which they have in principal by being a member of the UN agreed they would comply with.
So, what war do you speak of?
So, what war do you speak of?
The potential war between the USA and Iran. I did not say it is necessarily going to happen. There is a lot of speculation though. It should not happen if the both parties were rational, since both may have disastrous consequences, but are they? And it may be not about the absolute gains and losses but about power balances. Many claim America gained nothing from going to war in Iraq, but they went anyway.
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Just like the Russians are protecting Assad in Syria. They are going to protect the Khatenie/Ahermanjada regime in Iran. They will veto any UN sever resolution on Iran's nuclear programs. Programs that have alot of Russian contracts in them to build.
Russia doesnot want the middle east golden geese (Syria and Iran) to get fleeced. These are billions to the Russian economy.
So give Iran time and opportuntity, you have a nuclear armed Iran. How safe is that to the world? And remember. It is lot of engineering (cost and time) to successfully tip a missile with a nuc. A lot less engineering to cell smuggle a device to a target.
I am one not for a hasty war with Iran. I want the diplomatic effort to prevent war to all be attempted and played out. But this has been going on since 1979 with Iran and the US. Technically, the moment the Iranian students took the US Embassy....we were at war with Iran. That embassy was just like a New York City block. Part of the United States proper. The American embassy staff that were held hostage for 212 days in Iran. Never got compensation or even a "I am sorry" from a Iranian official.
So if you think that this is all about today's geopolitics. You are wrong. It goes a long ways back in time. That includes the Marine barrack bombing in Beruit in the 1980s. That has Iranian finger prints all over it.
Lastly, if we are going to war with Iran. I would rather do it before they had a nuc.
Russia doesnot want the middle east golden geese (Syria and Iran) to get fleeced. These are billions to the Russian economy.
So give Iran time and opportuntity, you have a nuclear armed Iran. How safe is that to the world? And remember. It is lot of engineering (cost and time) to successfully tip a missile with a nuc. A lot less engineering to cell smuggle a device to a target.
I am one not for a hasty war with Iran. I want the diplomatic effort to prevent war to all be attempted and played out. But this has been going on since 1979 with Iran and the US. Technically, the moment the Iranian students took the US Embassy....we were at war with Iran. That embassy was just like a New York City block. Part of the United States proper. The American embassy staff that were held hostage for 212 days in Iran. Never got compensation or even a "I am sorry" from a Iranian official.
So if you think that this is all about today's geopolitics. You are wrong. It goes a long ways back in time. That includes the Marine barrack bombing in Beruit in the 1980s. That has Iranian finger prints all over it.
Lastly, if we are going to war with Iran. I would rather do it before they had a nuc.
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joyaepace: The potential war between the USA and Iran. I did not say it is necessarily going to happen. There is a lot of speculation though. It should not happen if the both parties were rational, since both may have disastrous consequences, but are they?
I have no reason to believe they are not, otherwise, Iran would have already have blocked the Straits and triggered subsequent reactions. Likewise, the US has done nothing to provide a catalyst but has rather taken actions to diffuse the situation and, Iran has responded likewise.
joyaepace: And it may be not about the absolute gains and losses but about power balances. Many claim America gained nothing from going to war in Iraq, but they went anyway.
And many don't seem to understand that there need not be a financial gain to precipitate an action. Those same types also don't believe that sometimes a cigar is simply a cigar and that UN Resolutions mean something and should be enforced.
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It seems like this thread slowly but surely switching to a War subject.
Even though the question of a topic is:
Is it possible for USA to keep spending trillions of dollars on Wars they trying to fight?
Is the main interest of USA's politics is to fight outside, for other countries', co-called freedom and well being, forgetting about its own citizens?
Even though the question of a topic is:
Is it possible for USA to keep spending trillions of dollars on Wars they trying to fight?
Is the main interest of USA's politics is to fight outside, for other countries', co-called freedom and well being, forgetting about its own citizens?
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Why yes Konigsberg 
.... and of course not raising taxes on the mega rich and trying to take away what other social services the government still furnishes/d to most of it's citizens; like the EPA, Social Security, Medicare, daycare assistance etc or any hope for a cheaper national health option.... Oh yes, the right to actually trust financial institutions to be responsible with our money and faith in a government that hasn't been bought by the highest bidders. 
.... and of course not raising taxes on the mega rich and trying to take away what other social services the government still furnishes/d to most of it's citizens; like the EPA, Social Security, Medicare, daycare assistance etc or any hope for a cheaper national health option.... Oh yes, the right to actually trust financial institutions to be responsible with our money and faith in a government that hasn't been bought by the highest bidders. ------ This thread is Archived ------
Wars do seem the most interesting focus for the few who hold the strings, don't they?
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gininitaly: Why yes Konigsberg .... and of course not raising taxes on the mega rich and trying to take away what other social services the government still furnishes/d to most of it's citizens; like the EPA, Social Security, Medicare, daycare assistance etc or any hope for a cheaper national health option.... Oh yes, the right to actually trust financial institutions to be responsible with our money and faith in a government that hasn't been bought by the highest bidders.
Great time of day to you Gini!
I do not know much about Government system of USA, that's why I am asking this question.
I spent 4 years living in USA, from 1996 to 2000 and never was bothered with a question like this.
Now, hear about USA being more and more involved in a military actions, all over around the World.(which is not cheap) And watching what's going on with economical situation in USA's own homeland. It puzzles me ... What is more important for a Government: to spend those trillions of dollars on own people's happiness or ...
Another question: Does Ministry of Defense has own budged, to support a military actions or those money comes from a Tax payers' pockets?
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gininitaly: Wars do seem the most interesting focus for the few who hold the strings, don't they?
War is the "pistol-and-coffin" makers' sacred ritual observed to perpetuate "prosperity".
Money-lenders also join.
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Mermaidon: 1. Yes, it's always possible for governments to make war, money has nothing to do with their abilities to deploy troops since they're even now inventing money that don't really exist, and if it's in the best interests of the Globalist Mafia then they will coerce the U.S, Israel and Britain to engage Iran or provoke them to make the first move (block the Strait or attempt an assassination) or stage a False Flag and blame it on Iran.
I see a False Flag coming very soon, I just hope not so many people will be killed this time around.
2. As far as it affecting U.S citizens all the prognostications aren't yet in but they already know that oil prices will jump to record high which means $5 or even $6 a gallon ($7 in California), mass movements of protesters in the streets, mass arrests of dissidents, muzzling of the press, more False Flag Terror attacks and then real terror attacks on U.S soil, assassinations of certain leaders of dissension around the world and the nightmare will not stop there.
On the bright side, there'll be plenty of jobs once it's all said and done, if there's anyone left standing.
I see a False Flag coming very soon, I just hope not so many people will be killed this time around.
2. As far as it affecting U.S citizens all the prognostications aren't yet in but they already know that oil prices will jump to record high which means $5 or even $6 a gallon ($7 in California), mass movements of protesters in the streets, mass arrests of dissidents, muzzling of the press, more False Flag Terror attacks and then real terror attacks on U.S soil, assassinations of certain leaders of dissension around the world and the nightmare will not stop there.
On the bright side, there'll be plenty of jobs once it's all said and done, if there's anyone left standing.
Good day to you,Mermaidon!
You said:"On the bright side, there'll be plenty of jobs once it's all said and done, if there's anyone left standing"
What kind of jobs? Any thoughts?
And I see more and more advertizing for a volunteers to joy Military services? Hmm ...
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maxmate1: War is the "pistol-and-coffin" makers' sacred ritual observed to perpetuate "prosperity".
Money-lenders also join.
Money-lenders also join.
Hey Max!
question is what civilians are gain in those situations of being in constant Red Alert or an actual Military actions?
Hope you having a wonderful day
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gininitaly: http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/federal-budget-cuts-that-exempt-65-of-spending/
O!Spirits!
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Konigsberg: Hey Max!
question is what civilians are gain in those situations of being in constant Red Alert or an actual Military actions?
Hope you having a wonderful day
question is what civilians are gain in those situations of being in constant Red Alert or an actual Military actions?
Hope you having a wonderful day
Civilians gain nothing eventually. Here is how it works. Normally civilians would not pay tax to see it being spent on wars. So a "fear" factor is created in the form of an imminent danger, that motivates them to keep paying as a no-choice situation. This is a means to a mass-robbery as I put it.
So Pistol-makers (weapon manufacturers), Coffin-makers, moneylenders gain everyting from it. And then the reconstruction mafia comes in, to make more and more money.
So in essance, a continuous war is more a necessity for the clans mentioned above, rather than the well-being of the tax paying citizens. And with the money they have, they are prepared to do anything to safeguard their interests at any cost, or lie.
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1. Is it possible,financially, for USA to run three wars: Afghanistan, continued presents in Iraq and now a huge chance to start a war in Iran?
Certainly. They were able to mount two major wars in both Europe and the Pacific in the middle of a depression so it simply comes down to how great the threat is and if it warrants the full mobilization of the country.
That said, Iraq and Afghanistan are minor actions compared to WWII and, the nation's focus as it was during Viet Nam is political rather than survivalist as it was in WWII. Hence, we know that the US can do this but, it requires public will that is certainly not there at present.
Iran will not block the Straits as by doing so, they lose their one present ability to garner concessions. If they take this action, they have fired their one shot and, have nothing left to posture with.