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Feb 20, 2012 1:47 PM CST USA ability...
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Conrad73: What would happen if a hundred of you went to The Old Palace,and started dancing the Kolo?

Actually, we do that almost every weekend...

Albertaghost: Creating a public disturbance and protesting without a permit are what got them in poo. As you can see from the vid they were a group who were making a statement of some kind thus, they were demonstrating. They are more than welcome to do it in other public places provided they fill out the paperwork correctly and get a permit.


yeah a real threat to the national security ,they should have alarmed the NSA ,FBI, CIA ,
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Feb 20, 2012 1:58 PM CST USA ability...
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
drbombay: Oh contrare Konigs! War is not a money making machine like it used to be as far as employment & the weaponry of today is too costly for our economy to sustain but we will persevere hopefully.
I love my country but I'm tired of our foreign policies as I'm sure many others here agree. I wish we would take care of our own & let everyone else fend for themselves(may sound cruel but we are not appreciated anyway-damned if we do & damned if we don't & that's not to say we are w/o fault for I disagree with my government quite often). I am however tired of USA being the brunt of negativity whereas no other country is ever mentioned.



If war were about caring, there'd be none at all and since the US gov is in a war, one might consider what is that they concerned about because it isn't any of the citizens, anywhere, that they care about.

I'm pretty sure not caring about citizens is a negative thing, american or otherwise. hmmm
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Feb 20, 2012 2:05 PM CST USA ability...
Boban1: Actually, we do that almost every weekend...
yeah a real threat to the national security ,they should have alarmed the NSA ,FBI, CIA ,
Blocking the Parliamentarians?grin

Nothing to do with National Security!
Just being a Pain in the Butt of the other Visitors!
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Feb 20, 2012 2:07 PM CST USA ability...
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Mermaidon: I know a lot of bears and snakes, tarantulas and crocodiles who never stung, bit or ate a human in anger, a lot that never had contact with a human, a lot that served their species survival with perspicacity and deadly distinction and never once took a human life.
Does that mean you can pet a crocodile and not expect your hand (or your whole body for that matter) to be eaten up?

It's not about the soldiers, it's about those who send them.


Ever ask yourself what the difference is between a "lawful military order' and 'unlawful military order' is? The UMCJ defines the difference for American service people.

Many a true story of American service personnel refusing illegal military orders from commanding officers in the time of war. Many taking the responsibilty to refuse a illegal order.......but maybe that is what makes a civil difference between man and animal kingdom.
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Feb 20, 2012 2:17 PM CST USA ability...
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Boban1:
yeah a real threat to the national security ,they should have alarmed the NSA ,FBI, CIA ,


The local police enforced the law very nicely so there was no need to call in federal agencies. As for threat to national security, you are being rather slily as I have already stated which laws they broke and none of them involved national security but rather being a public nuisance and demonstrating without a permit. professor
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Feb 20, 2012 2:26 PM CST USA ability...
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Okay... lets see what Ron has to say ...

“We’ve slipped away from a true republic,” Paul told thousands of his supporters at the rally. “Now we’re slipping into a fascist system where it’s a combination of government, big business and authoritarian rule, and the suppression of the individual rights of each and every American citizen.”
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Feb 20, 2012 2:31 PM CST USA ability...
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Boban1: Okay... lets see what Ron has to say ...

“We’ve slipped away from a true republic,” Paul told thousands of his supporters at the rally. “Now we’re slipping into a fascist system where it’s a combination of government, big business and authoritarian rule, and the suppression of the individual rights of each and every American citizen.”


Yes, let's see what the guy who is running a distant fourth in the GOP race has to say. rolling on the floor laughing

Doe he say it is fine to break the law Boban?
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Feb 20, 2012 2:40 PM CST USA ability...
Boban1: Okay... lets see what Ron has to say ...

“We’ve slipped away from a true republic,” Paul told thousands of his supporters at the rally. “Now we’re slipping into a fascist system where it’s a combination of government, big business and authoritarian rule, and the suppression of the individual rights of each and every American citizen.”
Is that the Guy who is endorsed by Metzger,Duke and other extreme Rightwingers,and is even loved by the Left,because he would finish the Job Obama started?laugh
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Feb 20, 2012 2:42 PM CST USA ability...
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
okay you two... now re read the headline of this thread...grin
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Feb 20, 2012 2:44 PM CST USA ability...
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Conrad73: Is that the Guy who is endorsed by Metzger,Duke and other extreme Rightwingers,and is even loved by the Left,because he would finish the Job Obama started?


The same one who wants to allow Russian and Chinese naval ships into the Med while removing any control over Israel the US has much to the chagrin of all their enemies.laugh

Very sane indeed! sleep
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Feb 20, 2012 2:46 PM CST USA ability...
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Boban1: okay you two... now re read the headline of this thread...


Did and the US has proved they can run two major wars at once in the middle of a depression so it stands to reason they could run three, four or even ten minor ones in the middle of a recession.
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Feb 20, 2012 2:54 PM CST USA ability...
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Albertaghost: Did and the US has proved they can run two major wars at once in the middle of a depression so it stands to reason they could run three, four or even ten minor ones in the middle of a recession.

Excellent...now look up the term "Implosion"
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Feb 20, 2012 2:55 PM CST USA ability...
Class5
Class5Class5Skankytown, Queensland Australia4 Threads 1,010 Posts
BB_snickers: If war were about caring, there'd be none at all and since the US gov is in a war, one might consider what is that they concerned about because it isn't any of the citizens, anywhere, that they care about.

I'm pretty sure not caring about citizens is a negative thing, american or otherwise.


The spin doctor returns! You know that's not what he meant and you took that out of context.

Fallacy of quoting out of context


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"The practice of quoting out of context, sometimes referred to as "contextomy" or "quote mining", is a logical fallacy and a type of false attribution in which a passage is removed from its surrounding matter in such a way as to distort its intended meaning.

Arguments based on this fallacy typically take two forms. As a straw man argument, which is frequently found in politics, it involves quoting an opponent out of context in order to misrepresent their position (typically to make it seem more simplistic or extreme) in order to make it easier to refute. As an appeal to authority, it involves quoting an authority on the subject out of context, in order to misrepresent that authority as supporting some position."


hmmm
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Feb 20, 2012 2:57 PM CST USA ability...
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Albertaghost: Did and the US has proved they can run two major wars at once in the middle of a depression so it stands to reason they could run three, four or even ten minor ones in the middle of a recession.


It is not just that, Albert. Our new weapons are force enhancers and force multipliers. That is why you don't hear the Joint Chief or other Generals squawking about the big budget cut backs or the troop cut backs.

They can do more with less.
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Feb 20, 2012 2:57 PM CST USA ability...
Mermaidon
MermaidonMermaidonBrussels, Brussels (Bruxelles) Belgium26 Threads 4 Polls 1,116 Posts
Boban1: Excellent...now look up the term "Implosion"


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 20, 2012 2:59 PM CST USA ability...
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Boban1: Excellent...now look up the term "Implosion"


Thanks. Now in turn, could you look up the term 'been through a hell of a lot worse and hasn't happened yet'professor
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Feb 20, 2012 3:09 PM CST USA ability...
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Albertaghost: Thanks. Now in turn, could you look up the term 'been through a hell of a lot worse and hasn't happened yet'

Every empire has an expiration date ( I hope I have used the right expression)
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Feb 20, 2012 3:16 PM CST USA ability...
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Boban1: Every empire has an expiration date ( I hope I have used the right expression)


I don't believe you did. The US is not an empire but rather a country that has a lot of influence. Many countries have a lot of influence such as France, the UK, Iran, Russia, China etc and I would never say that at the present time any of them are an 'empire.'

That said,an expiration date on influence is hardly something one can say happens at an exact time. For example, England, which was at one time an 'empire' (as they controlled colonies, something the US does not do hence it cannot be called an empire) did not 'implode' or lose it status as an empire overnight but rather it took a hundred years for this to occur. Similarly it took the Romans hundreds of years to lose their empire and, in the case of the Caliphates, a half millennia.
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Feb 20, 2012 5:47 PM CST USA ability...
Mermaidon
MermaidonMermaidonBrussels, Brussels (Bruxelles) Belgium26 Threads 4 Polls 1,116 Posts
Class5: You are applying the actions of a renegade group of individuals to the collective whole. Yes, it is an extreme example, therefore, hardly germain when when employing generalisations.


Can you please quote me on that generalization? 'Cause I don't see where I applied it to the whole of the Armed Forces.
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Feb 20, 2012 6:41 PM CST USA ability...
joyaepace
joyaepacejoyaepaceGalway, Ireland11 Threads 2 Polls 958 Posts
Konigsberg: Great time of day to you Gini!

I do not know much about Government system of USA, that's why I am asking this question.

I spent 4 years living in USA, from 1996 to 2000 and never was bothered with a question like this.
Now, hear about USA being more and more involved in a military actions, all over around the World.(which is not cheap) And watching what's going on with economical situation in USA's own homeland. It puzzles me ... What is more important for a Government: to spend those trillions of dollars on own people's happiness or ...

Another question: Does Ministry of Defense has own budged, to support a military actions or those money comes from a Tax payers' pockets?


All state budgets come from taxpayers. I don't think Ministry or Department of Defense, whatever is there, earns money.

Yeah, why do US spend so much money on war? To preserve its status as a superpower I guess.
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