Let's Bash The Yanks! (30)

Mar 10, 2012 7:33 PM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
saoirse65
saoirse65saoirse65Ballyshannon, Donegal Ireland210 Threads 3,338 Posts
Sometimes I think that we are very quick to make Negative comments about America and the American people. We make assumptions about them based on some stupid American tv shows that even the Americans think are stupid.
Bashing the Yanks gets on my nerves. Possibly I am a bit biased because I lived there for 14 years.
While I lived there I was lucky enough to meet the most amazing people. I got to know the regular Joe Soaps who were just trying to earn a few bob and do the best for their families. All Americans are not fat and stupid! I found the people that I met to be really caring and genuine.
Please let us not forget that America was a refuge for the Irish after the famine...for Europeans after World war 2. I took care of elderly people in New York who had lost all of their family members in concentration camps.They were very grateful to have been able to come to America.
I found the American people to be really welcoming when I lived there. I base my experience on having lived in New York but I did visit some other American cities and felt the same welcome.
This thread was prompted after seeing comments on another thread.
When I went to America first I did not understand why Americans said they were Irish or Italian etc. I finally understood that they were respecting their parents heritage etc. One of my friends once said to me...oh Yanks saying they are Irish! His daughter was born in New York years later...me being me...took the piss out of him and said..oh you have an American kid! He said..No she is Irish...I said..oh really..then so are all the other people that you are saying are not Irish just cos they were born in America.
Anyway....just saying..please stop and think before bashing a country that in my opinion has been pretty good to the Irish through the years.
This thread is not about American Politics...it is about the American people, so please address political issues somewhere else :)
Mar 10, 2012 7:36 PM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
darren9030
darren9030darren9030Peterborough, Cambridgeshire, England UK56 Threads 1 Polls 9,665 Posts
Out of the 34 countries i've visited i would say America is one of my favourites but the people ( i encountered ) were amongst the least friendly anywhere ( possibly apart from Hungary ). Maybe i was just unlucky dunno

Northern Ireland friendliest btw banana
Mar 10, 2012 7:50 PM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
saoirse65
saoirse65saoirse65Ballyshannon, Donegal Ireland210 Threads 3,338 Posts
darren9030: Out of the 34 countries i've visited i would say America is one of my favourites but the people ( i encountered ) were amongst the least friendly anywhere ( possibly apart from Hungary ). Maybe i was just unlucky

Northern Ireland friendliest btw

Well I suppose that I was lucky enough to have had time to get to know them as opposed to a holiday experience. I remember people from Minnesota( they had the real accent out of the movie Fargo which is in NC I think!) coming in to where I worked in Manhattan and they were terrified of the New Yorkers lol.... New Yorkers can be really in your face type of people but I found them to be the salt of the earth.
Mar 10, 2012 7:52 PM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
fifitheminx
fifitheminxfifitheminxDublin, Ireland35 Threads 4,039 Posts
saoirse65: Sometimes I think that we are very quick to make Negative comments about America and the American people. We make assumptions about them based on some stupid American tv shows that even the Americans think are stupid.
Bashing the Yanks gets on my nerves. Possibly I am a bit biased because I lived there for 14 years.
While I lived there I was lucky enough to meet the most amazing people. I got to know the regular Joe Soaps who were just trying to earn a few bob and do the best for their families. All Americans are not fat and stupid! I found the people that I met to be really caring and genuine.
Please let us not forget that America was a refuge for the Irish after the famine...for Europeans after World war 2. I took care of elderly people in New York who had lost all of their family members in concentration camps.They were very grateful to have been able to come to America.
I found the American people to be really welcoming when I lived there. I base my experience on having lived in New York but I did visit some other American cities and felt the same welcome.
This thread was prompted after seeing comments on another thread.
When I went to America first I did not understand why Americans said they were Irish or Italian etc. I finally understood that they were respecting their parents heritage etc. One of my friends once said to me...oh Yanks saying they are Irish! His daughter was born in New York years later...me being me...took the piss out of him and said..oh you have an American kid! He said..No she is Irish...I said..oh really..then so are all the other people that you are saying are not Irish just cos they were born in America.
Anyway....just saying..please stop and think before bashing a country that in my opinion has been pretty good to the Irish through the years.
This thread is not about American Politics...it is about the American people, so please address political issues somewhere else :)


I have made friends with some Americans..

and they rock!! their sense of humour matches mine, really soulful funny people with plenty of views and yes..they know the world exists past America....ive also spoken to spazmos of the highest degree from America..and the rest of the world too.

takes all types..just like here..
Mar 10, 2012 8:00 PM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
saoirse65
saoirse65saoirse65Ballyshannon, Donegal Ireland210 Threads 3,338 Posts
fifitheminx: I have made friends with some Americans..

and they rock!! their sense of humour matches mine, really soulful funny people with plenty of views and yes..they know the world exists past America....ive also spoken to spazmos of the highest degree from America..and the rest of the world too.

takes all types..just like here..

My last couple of years in NY I waitressed in a right dive in the middle of Manhattan. One customer described it as Stephen King's version of Cheers lol. The customers were mighty craic...great sense of humour and I took the piss out of them and they did the same. I am talking really unpolitically correct stuff cos they were from all backgrounds..jewish, african american, hells kitchen mafia etc...nothing or nobody was above being slagged.
When I was leaving to come home to Ireland the customers had a collection and gave me 2000 dollars...Mega people altogether.
Mar 11, 2012 3:18 AM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
stanley8m
stanley8mstanley8mkildare, Kildare Ireland156 Threads 7 Polls 5,341 Posts
saoirse65: Sometimes I think that we are very quick to make Negative comments about America and the American people. We make assumptions about them based on some stupid American tv shows that even the Americans think are stupid.
Bashing the Yanks gets on my nerves. Possibly I am a bit biased because I lived there for 14 years.
While I lived there I was lucky enough to meet the most amazing people. I got to know the regular Joe Soaps who were just trying to earn a few bob and do the best for their families. All Americans are not fat and stupid! I found the people that I met to be really caring and genuine.
Please let us not forget that America was a refuge for the Irish after the famine...for Europeans after World war 2. I took care of elderly people in New York who had lost all of their family members in concentration camps.They were very grateful to have been able to come to America.
I found the American people to be really welcoming when I lived there. I base my experience on having lived in New York but I did visit some other American cities and felt the same welcome.
This thread was prompted after seeing comments on another thread.
When I went to America first I did not understand why Americans said they were Irish or Italian etc. I finally understood that they were respecting their parents heritage etc. One of my friends once said to me...oh Yanks saying they are Irish! His daughter was born in New York years later...me being me...took the piss out of him and said..oh you have an American kid! He said..No she is Irish...I said..oh really..then so are all the other people that you are saying are not Irish just cos they were born in America.
Anyway....just saying..please stop and think before bashing a country that in my opinion has been pretty good to the Irish through the years.
This thread is not about American Politics...it is about the American people, so please address political issues somewhere else :)


Yeah, you bet dude,, go for it Saoires, to be honest I think you lived there too long buddy.
Mar 11, 2012 3:40 AM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
felixdahousecat
felixdahousecatfelixdahousecatDublin, Ireland5 Posts
Nothing wrong the American's - good point about the Irish after the famine. We could all learn from the yank's - their beautiful world of silicon valley for stater's has made the WWW a more interesting & exciting place to meet, communicate & enjoy other nationalities from around the globe.

thumbs up to the Yank's
Mar 11, 2012 4:30 AM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
jimbo79
jimbo79jimbo79carlow, Carlow Ireland85 Threads 8 Polls 4,259 Posts
i suppose if a nation of babykillers is your cup of tea then that is the place for you, in the main i have found any i met to be arrogant and ignorant both in terms of their governments motives and actions, as for it been a haven for people from here after the famine, the way i see that is we had every bit as much right to settle over there as they themselves had
Mar 11, 2012 5:22 AM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
MarsMan
MarsManMarsManBobbing along, Cork Ireland29 Threads 8 Polls 981 Posts
You get good, bad and indifferent people no matter what country you are in, the yanks just tend to be a bit louder about being good, bad or indifferent than most.
Mar 11, 2012 6:13 AM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
Green_Sleeves
Green_SleevesGreen_SleevesCarlow, Ireland174 Threads 37 Polls 4,812 Posts
I feel really bad now crying


Actually, no I dont laugh

I wrote a really long reply, twice, but, I just deleted it, I could rant for Eire :D

I wouldnt say I have no love for America, I just, have no interest in it really. Obama's visit last year did nothing for me, couldnt be bothered with it (lets not talk politics wink ) Queens visit on the other hand, goosebump fest! ireland
Mar 11, 2012 7:37 AM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
bash them with what ...lumps of 2x4?
Mar 11, 2012 8:42 AM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
WESTERNSTAR1
WESTERNSTAR1WESTERNSTAR1†_ °_†, Cork Ireland8 Threads 5 Polls 3,490 Posts
they brought us case+john deere,can't bash'em for that laugh
Mar 11, 2012 8:49 AM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
stanley8m
stanley8mstanley8mkildare, Kildare Ireland156 Threads 7 Polls 5,341 Posts
They have abolished cutlery, plates, cups and glasses,, "like hey man, if you can't hold it in two hands and bite it, then it ain't food,",laugh Not to mention their evolutionary reversal into eating their kentucky fried, chicken dinner out of buckets.rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 11, 2012 10:29 AM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
salanky
salankysalankydublin, Dublin Ireland90 Threads 1 Polls 9,888 Posts
i work with an american and while she is as mad as a box of frogs she is the type of person who would do anything for you even if it was out of her way. her predecessor was also american and was the exact same.

been to new york twice and though they are a bit louder than id like for the most part any iv met have been lovely dunno
Mar 11, 2012 7:20 PM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
stanley8m
stanley8mstanley8mkildare, Kildare Ireland156 Threads 7 Polls 5,341 Posts
I am going to defend the Irish now, as a Nation we have the height of respect for America, we are for the most part appreciative for what they have done for us as immigrants and also for input into our political struggle and achieving and working towards a peace process. The people who bash Americans and make fun of them are the ignorant classes that exist in any society in any country.

Saoirse's post on the international forum,, ah so anyone with an opinion that doesn't comply with The American way of controlling the world are ignorant??? Yup,, you definately spent way tooooo long over there,, laugh
Mar 11, 2012 7:35 PM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
saoirse65
saoirse65saoirse65Ballyshannon, Donegal Ireland210 Threads 3,338 Posts
stanley8m: I am going to defend the Irish now, as a Nation we have the height of respect for America, we are for the most part appreciative for what they have done for us as immigrants and also for input into our political struggle and achieving and working towards a peace process. The people who bash Americans and make fun of them are the ignorant classes that exist in any society in any country.

Saoirse's post on the international forum,, ah so anyone with an opinion that doesn't comply with The American way of controlling the world are ignorant??? Yup,, you definately spent way tooooo long over there,,

Ignorance is in my opinion, not wanting to be open to ideas and being closed minded. I would imagine that you are potentially closed minded. You have said twice that you think I spent too long over THERE.....
Intelligence would enable a person to read a post in an unbiased way and see that I was not in my post calling anyone ignorant...admittedly I did not word it well but I am not a writer.
Mar 12, 2012 12:33 PM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
dantes85
dantes85dantes85Westmeath, Ireland10 Threads 3 Polls 363 Posts
saoirse65: My last couple of years in NY I waitressed in a right dive in the middle of Manhattan. One customer described it as Stephen King's version of Cheers lol. The customers were mighty craic...great sense of humour and I took the piss out of them and they did the same. I am talking really unpolitically correct stuff cos they were from all backgrounds..jewish, african american, hells kitchen mafia etc...nothing or nobody was above being slagged.
When I was leaving to come home to Ireland the customers had a collection and gave me 2000 dollars...Mega people altogether.


So . . . lets get this straight. Make fun of Jews, Africans and Americans. . . but don't tease Americans if you're Irish? confused But you did it there, and you're Irish. . But it's ok if you do it, or if you're in America when you do it? dunno

And I didn't know I belong to a class. I assume that refers to me as you quoted one of my posts in the title to this thread. We could talk about copyright and anti piracy laws. . . Perhaps I was unaware of my class because, after all, it is the "ignorant" class, right?! doh

I'm lost, but at least I haven't lost my sense of humour. laugh
Perhaps you should try to remember the people you refer to in Manhattan. Am also concerned about you drumming up support on the international forums. Are we going to be invaded? shock hole
Mar 12, 2012 5:20 PM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
Green_Sleeves
Green_SleevesGreen_SleevesCarlow, Ireland174 Threads 37 Polls 4,812 Posts
snowlynx: They also kept the world safe for democracy during the cold war. While not agreeing with everything they do they are basically the 'good guys'. Look at China and Russia intervening to veto the UN in Syria, the world would be a pretty awful place if we were depending on those tyrants! The trouble is you judge America by different standards to everyone else.


Did they really? The threat of communisms was, at the time a necessary 'myth' (see Leo Strauss), ie a form of social cohesion that gave society a single goal, a purpose to defend the homeland and the western world and democracy from this evil regime that wanted to impose its ways on us.....just like the myth of the nation, the church and, the current myth being "international terrorism", it gives people a purpose, give politics and elected heads of state purchase power. The communism regime in eastern europe was crumbling from the inside out, it was no threat.

I'll try phrase this right, but, I heard it said once that, "a nation that believes in nothing is very susceptable to those whom believe in something, and so they tend to brand these people whom believe in something as radicals or fundamentalist", thus, myths are necessary dunno
Mar 12, 2012 5:31 PM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
Green_Sleeves: Did they really? The threat of communisms was, at the time a necessary 'myth' (see Leo Strauss), ie a form of social cohesion that gave society a single goal, a purpose to defend the homeland and the western world and democracy from this evil regime that wanted to impose its ways on us.....just like the myth of the nation, the church and, the current myth being "international terrorism", it gives people a purpose, give politics and elected heads of state purchase power. The communism regime in eastern europe was crumbling from the inside out, it was no threat.

I'll try phrase this right, but, I heard it said once that, "a nation that believes in nothing is very susceptable to those whom believe in something, and so they tend to brand these people whom believe in something as radicals or fundamentalist", thus, myths are necessary


Communism wasn't crumbling until the nineteen seventies, it was very successful and matched the US in technology and military strength.
Mar 12, 2012 5:46 PM CST Let's Bash The Yanks!
sharmini
sharminisharminidublin, Dublin Ireland83 Threads 1 Polls 2,918 Posts
Green_Sleeves: Did they really? The threat of communisms was, at the time a necessary 'myth' (see Leo Strauss), ie a form of social cohesion that gave society a single goal, a purpose to defend the homeland and the western world and democracy from this evil regime that wanted to impose its ways on us.....just like the myth of the nation, the church and, the current myth being "international terrorism", it gives people a purpose, give politics and elected heads of state purchase power. The communism regime in eastern europe was crumbling from the inside out, it was no threat.

I'll try phrase this right, but, I heard it said once that, "a nation that believes in nothing is very susceptable to those whom believe in something, and so they tend to brand these people whom believe in something as radicals or fundamentalist", thus, myths are necessary


Well said!thumbs up
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