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May 14, 2012 11:19 AM CST any advice?
lussilissi
lussilissilussilissiBuenos Aires, Argentina1 Threads 8 Posts
hi everyone, now and then i receive messages of people on this site and elsewhere... those contacts always start with talking about "love" and "happiness" and what we do next is trying to establish a good connection... after some chats and warm "full of love" email exchange the people go to financial themes, they talk about some "money" they have got out of their shade business somewhere or they tell stories like while hunting for bin laden in afghanistan they instead found "a treasure" that was hidden by him and now because the poor thing is already dead and does not need the treasure anymore they have decided to share it among those "fighters for human rights and democracy" and keep it, or else they had a deal with peace keepers and local authorities and were paid for a good deal...... stories differ but they all have similar ending : i am a soldier/peace keeper/a governmental official and can't get those money/treasure on my account and as i am in love with you (they usually fall in love after 5 min. chat online) i want you to receive those money on your account and keep it for me until i get there and we'll be happy forever.
i clearly understand what you think of it - they all are just scammers.
however almost none of them don't ask me sending any money to them, all they ask is just send them a scanned copy of my identification, home address and phone number.
they do NOT ask for my bank account or card number.
i am far from thinking those stories can be true but where's the trick?
may be similar things happened to others on here and what came out of it?
any advice would be appreciated. :)
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May 14, 2012 11:25 AM CST any advice?
Nessa7
Nessa7Nessa7Vulpine's Heart, Cork Ireland8 Threads 1 Polls 1,934 Posts
confused hmmm scammers
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May 14, 2012 12:01 PM CST any advice?
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
Identity theft is one reason and secondly, to launder money, they can use your details to move money, without it being traced back to them.
Another trick is to ask you to cash a cheque, usually below 1000 USD, this way they get below the security checks of banks, who have to ask about higher cash transfers, the trick is to send you cheque, ask you to deposit the cheque and then transfer half the amount to another account that they give you, you get to keep the remaining money,(WOW) except that after you have transferred the money, your bank tells you the cheque bounced and you just lost 500 USD.
NEVER NEVER transfer or accept a cheque or any other payment from those you have no real knowledge about!!!
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May 14, 2012 12:23 PM CST any advice?
roserose1
roserose1roserose1Sofia, Sofia City Bulgaria1 Threads 56 Posts
Have the same experience like you. They are scammers. You can easily proof this as they delete their profile as soon as you give them your personal mail. Also as example I offer them help before they want to ask it. Than because they are too stupid ask for money. When you hear this word you better block them. It is something very usual here and everywhere just do not make this to disturb you life. Of course when you hear of love and happiness on the second chat just block them.
I am on the searching (only for fun) to report some of them but they fly too rapidly laugh
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May 14, 2012 2:45 PM CST any advice?
Darling they are Scammers and not MC Hammer
Don't give any of them your heart unless it is Potarick or Obama

I am not one of the secret service agents that got caught in Colombia
All I want is a honest and loving single woman from Buenos Aires Argentina!
professor
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May 14, 2012 9:04 PM CST any advice?
Sounds like a 419 (Advance Fee Scam) They tempt you with a huge sum of money but in order to get it some bogus fee must be paid which of course they don't have. If you take the hook and send them the fee they come up with another and another and it's always the absolute last one they need to close the deal. The more you "invest" in this scam the less likely you are to back out thinking one more payment and everything will be right in the end. When they figure they can't bleed you any more they simply disappear. And you're broke!
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May 14, 2012 9:06 PM CST any advice?
sunnyisles48
sunnyisles48sunnyisles48Castries, Saint Lucia86 Posts
Nessa7: hmmm scammers


Yep scammers !doh
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May 14, 2012 9:22 PM CST any advice?
rizlared: Identity theft is one reason and secondly, to launder money, they can use your details to move money, without it being traced back to them.
Another trick is to ask you to cash a cheque, usually below 1000 USD, this way they get below the security checks of banks, who have to ask about higher cash transfers, the trick is to send you cheque, ask you to deposit the cheque and then transfer half the amount to another account that they give you, you get to keep the remaining money,(WOW) except that after you have transferred the money, your bank tells you the cheque bounced and you just lost 500 USD.
NEVER NEVER transfer or accept a cheque or any other payment from those you have no real knowledge about!!!
thumbs up

you'd be wise to stop talking with these individuals
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May 14, 2012 10:15 PM CST any advice?
lussilissi
lussilissilussilissiBuenos Aires, Argentina1 Threads 8 Posts
rizlared: Identity theft is one reason and secondly, to launder money, they can use your details to move money, without it being traced back to them.
Another trick is to ask you to cash a cheque, usually below 1000 USD, this way they get below the security checks of banks, who have to ask about higher cash transfers, the trick is to send you cheque, ask you to deposit the cheque and then transfer half the amount to another account that they give you, you get to keep the remaining money,(WOW) except that after you have transferred the money, your bank tells you the cheque bounced and you just lost 500 USD.
NEVER NEVER transfer or accept a cheque or any other payment from those you have no real knowledge about!!!

thanks a lot for your warning, we argentinians here are generally poor enough with not much to lose in financial meaning of the word yet identity theft seems really appalling (considering that i have already sent my personal data to someone)......
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May 14, 2012 10:26 PM CST any advice?
anilag
anilaganilagStaten Island, New York USA12 Threads 412 Posts
lussilissi: thanks a lot for your warning, we argentinians here are generally poor enough with not much to lose in financial meaning of the word yet identity theft seems really appalling (considering that i have already sent my personal data to someone)......



You did ? Ohhhh...doh
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May 15, 2012 7:42 AM CST any advice?
maxmate1
maxmate1maxmate1Dubai, United Arab Emirates1 Threads 963 Posts
lussilissi: thanks a lot for your warning, we argentinians here are generally poor enough with not much to lose in financial meaning of the word yet identity theft seems really appalling (considering that i have already sent my personal data to someone)......


Identity theft is really dangerous. It can be used for many things using your identitity and reference and you'd only know when the trouble has already knocked at your door. It's not necessarily about scamming you. But also about samming others using you and your credible references etc. So please be careful in this. Your identity could also be used for committing other crimes online. Anything can happen. I'd say prevention is better than cure!
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May 15, 2012 7:52 AM CST any advice?
Antoniacv
AntoniacvAntoniacvWien, Vienna Austria11 Threads 1,084 Posts
Estafas querida!!!


wave

Saludos!
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May 15, 2012 7:56 AM CST any advice?
rizlared: Identity theft is one reason and secondly, to launder money, they can use your details to move money, without it being traced back to them.
Another trick is to ask you to cash a cheque, usually below 1000 USD, this way they get below the security checks of banks, who have to ask about higher cash transfers, the trick is to send you cheque, ask you to deposit the cheque and then transfer half the amount to another account that they give you, you get to keep the remaining money,(WOW) except that after you have transferred the money, your bank tells you the cheque bounced and you just lost 500 USD.
NEVER NEVER transfer or accept a cheque or any other payment from those you have no real knowledge about!!!


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May 15, 2012 8:06 AM CST any advice?
nevica
nevicanevicabeautiful, Gavleborg Sweden11 Threads 640 Posts
lussilissi:
however almost none of them don't ask me sending any money to them, all they ask is just send them a scanned copy of my identification, home address and phone number.
they do NOT ask for my bank account or card number.
They will use it to defraud someone else, they will make an account of "you"somewhere else, and it will be very credible because of those details. A lot of scammers are picture collectors now, they have a lot of photos, where do they take those photos? people send them, of course.
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May 15, 2012 8:36 AM CST any advice?
lussilissi
lussilissilussilissiBuenos Aires, Argentina1 Threads 8 Posts
so what should i do now ?
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May 15, 2012 8:53 AM CST any advice?
maxmate1
maxmate1maxmate1Dubai, United Arab Emirates1 Threads 963 Posts
lussilissi: so what should i do now ?


First of all, from now on, be careful sharing your personal details.

Secondly, keep track of whom you shared it with. Make a list of all of them with dates that you shared your details. Just in case you might need it if something goes wrong.

Meanwhile stay positive! Hope for the best and be prepared for the worst.
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May 15, 2012 9:09 AM CST any advice?
ziggy67
ziggy67ziggy67WATTON, Norfolk, England UK5 Threads 172 Posts
i clearly understand what you think of it - they all are just scammers.
i clearly understand what you think of it - they all are just scammers.
i am far from thinking those stories can be true but where's the trick?
they do NOT ask for my bank account or card number.
may be similar things happened to others on here and what came out of it?
any advice would be appreciated. :)
I am sorry to hear what has happened to you, i get these scammers every day, all you can do is never give any information, as soon as they ask then you know it is a scam. Next thing for you to do is contact the police, give them all the details about the person you gave your details to, let the take it from there as they may be able to do some kind of trace. Don't worry yourself left the police do that for you.xx
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May 15, 2012 9:40 AM CST any advice?
JustJess77
JustJess77JustJess77Monroe, North Carolina USA5 Threads 248 Posts
I got one yesterday...didn't even bother with the I love you crap just straight to the point...he's in hong kong on business and if I just give him my bank info he can have his antique money deposited into my account and then pay me a $350 fee for each deposit and then when he gets back into the states he will show his appreciation by paying all my bills. Are there really people naive enough to believe this?
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May 15, 2012 9:59 AM CST any advice?
I got one yesterday...didn't even bother with the I love you crap just straight to the point...he's in hong kong on business and if I just give him my bank info he can have his antique money deposited into my account and then pay me a $350 fee for each deposit and then when he gets back into the states he will show his appreciation by paying all my bills. Are there really people naive enough to believe this?[/quote]
Oh yeah. I copied this post from August 2010 by a member of this site. I cleaned up the spelling and punctuation a little to make it more readable but it's a heart breaking story.

"Well, I got scammed a few weeks ago, and those of you who think they would never get scammed, I can tell you it can happen to anyone... Here is how it happened. A very nice looking man (that is what scammers do for instance, show the picture of a model) told me he fell in love with me when reading my profile. At the second chat he told me we were lovers. On the 4rth chat he asked me for marriage. We were going to meet 3 weeks later. Just like mimi's translation says, he knew how to talk to me, he had the psychological knowledge for knowing what kind of person I am, he sent me emails and would chat with me every evening. It was So beautiful and romantic that now, 8 weeks later, I am still in love with him, even if I lost 10 thousand dollars... He also showed himself on the webcam, it was the same model, all a trick... the romantic time lasted 31 days. once I said I was putting nail polish, he immediately answered "I wish I could help you", which is a way to take possession of your body. he would tell me "I belong to you and you belong to me". stuff like that. in the end if I had a tiny little disagreement with him, he would say "how are you talking to me?", just a way to become like a boss over me. then during several days he said about one money problem (credit card not working, not giving him cash) and always said "BUT IT IS NOT YOUR PROBLEM, HONEY, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT". then, on the 31st day, he did NOT ask for money, he COMMANDED that I send him money before 9 am the next morning. at that point, I was LIKE ONE OF THOSE BEATEN WOMEN WHO SAYS HER HUSBAND IS RIGHT TO BEAT THEM. my only thought was "not to say that he wants money to anyone, my friends would condemn me, and him". Second time, same thing, command and hurry (before 9 am), I emptied my bank account, had my heart swollen and thought "oh no big deal, we will soon get married and have everything in common". Third time, I had no money and started to feel very bad and called my brother. I changed email address and phone number, but 4 days later I contacted again that scammer, longing for his marvelous words and promises. What I learned: never ever chat, only email, and only with men that live close, that you can meet. now I see a psychologist, I am emotionally broken. money is an issue. but emotions is maybe an even bigger issue. hopefully this testimony helps someone (if only a scammer who could come to realize the emotional evil he causes...). Best wishes," -Isabelle
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May 15, 2012 10:02 AM CST any advice?
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
ooby_dooby: I got one yesterday...didn't even bother with the I love you crap just straight to the point...he's in hong kong on business and if I just give him my bank info he can have his antique money deposited into my account and then pay me a $350 fee for each deposit and then when he gets back into the states he will show his appreciation by paying all my bills. Are there really people naive enough to believe this?
Oh yeah. I copied this post from August 2010 by a member of this site. I cleaned up the spelling and punctuation a little to make it more readable but it's a heart breaking story.

"Well, I got scammed a few weeks ago, and those of you who think they would never get scammed, I can tell you it can happen to anyone... Here is how it happened. A very nice looking man (that is what scammers do for instance, show the picture of a model) told me he fell in love with me when reading my profile. At the second chat he told me we were lovers. On the 4rth chat he asked me for marriage. We were going to meet 3 weeks later. Just like mimi's translation says, he knew how to talk to me, he had the psychological knowledge for knowing what kind of person I am, he sent me emails and would chat with me every evening. It was So beautiful and romantic that now, 8 weeks later, I am still in love with him, even if I lost 10 thousand dollars... He also showed himself on the webcam, it was the same model, all a trick... the romantic time lasted 31 days. once I said I was putting nail polish, he immediately answered "I wish I could help you", which is a way to take possession of your body. he would tell me "I belong to you and you belong to me". stuff like that. in the end if I had a tiny little disagreement with him, he would say "how are you talking to me?", just a way to become like a boss over me. then during several days he said about one money problem (credit card not working, not giving him cash) and always said "BUT IT IS NOT YOUR PROBLEM, HONEY, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT". then, on the 31st day, he did NOT ask for money, he COMMANDED that I send him money before 9 am the next morning. at that point, I was LIKE ONE OF THOSE BEATEN WOMEN WHO SAYS HER HUSBAND IS RIGHT TO BEAT THEM. my only thought was "not to say that he wants money to anyone, my friends would condemn me, and him". Second time, same thing, command and hurry (before 9 am), I emptied my bank account, had my heart swollen and thought "oh no big deal, we will soon get married and have everything in common". Third time, I had no money and started to feel very bad and called my brother. I changed email address and phone number, but 4 days later I contacted again that scammer, longing for his marvelous words and promises. What I learned: never ever chat, only email, and only with men that live close, that you can meet. now I see a psychologist, I am emotionally broken. money is an issue. but emotions is maybe an even bigger issue. hopefully this testimony helps someone (if only a scammer who could come to realize the emotional evil he causes...). Best wishes," -Isabelle


What is heartbreaking about it?
By line 5, at the most, you can see scammer and sorry, have said it before and have no problem saying it again, anyone who falls for that deserves what they get.
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