Questioning Christianity (146)
I rest my case,
In your words
"You CAN disagree without being disagreeable."
"I do not claim to be a nominal Christian or a Jew, and in fact, have major differences of opinion with both groups.
Shalom! peace.
MMM a confusing state.
In your words
"You CAN disagree without being disagreeable."
"I do not claim to be a nominal Christian or a Jew, and in fact, have major differences of opinion with both groups.
Shalom! peace.
MMM a confusing state.
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sophiasummer: I rest my case,
In your words
"You CAN disagree without being disagreeable."
"I do not claim to be a nominal Christian or a Jew, and in fact, have major differences of opinion with both groups.
Shalom! peace.
MMM a confusing state.
In your words
"You CAN disagree without being disagreeable."
"I do not claim to be a nominal Christian or a Jew, and in fact, have major differences of opinion with both groups.
Shalom! peace.
MMM a confusing state.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Clarify, please.
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Hi
if one disagrees there can be no disagreeable with the one whom disgarees.
You believe? but reject?
if one disagrees there can be no disagreeable with the one whom disgarees.
You believe? but reject?
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For me it has always been a mystery how a person's content of faith couldn't be attacked. Jews have been doing it themselves all the time in Talmud, Mishna and Gemara. They have twisted and turned beliefs and texts tirelessly for centuries.
I feel much more convinced when God is showing His intentions directly to me instead of via an old book. Sometimes it's obvious, and sometimes not.
But the process of a word recollecting faith is a difficult task. Because you need to recite verses to be sure that you remembered them correct.
And isn't that just strange?
I feel much more convinced when God is showing His intentions directly to me instead of via an old book. Sometimes it's obvious, and sometimes not.
But the process of a word recollecting faith is a difficult task. Because you need to recite verses to be sure that you remembered them correct.
And isn't that just strange?
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Zebaztian: For me it has always been a mystery how a person's content of faith couldn't be attacked. Jews have been doing it themselves all the time in Talmud, Mishna and Gemara. They have twisted and turned beliefs and texts tirelessly for centuries.
I feel much more convinced when God is showing His intentions directly to me instead of via an old book. Sometimes it's obvious, and sometimes not.
But the process of a word recollecting faith is a difficult task. Because you need to recite verses to be sure that you remembered them correct.
And isn't that just strange?
I feel much more convinced when God is showing His intentions directly to me instead of via an old book. Sometimes it's obvious, and sometimes not.
But the process of a word recollecting faith is a difficult task. Because you need to recite verses to be sure that you remembered them correct.
And isn't that just strange?
Yeah, I regard the Talmud, Mishna and Gemara to be the opinions of men, and see them as interesting reading, not a guide as to how to live my life. Jesus tried to explain that the Jewish rabbis and sages had screwed up the interpretation of the word and made it impossible to live by, but apparently this was misinterpreted by those who would later found the Christian church. Some days you just can't win.
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It shall never be a mystery of a persons content of faith to be attacked
by interpretation
We can recite nursery rhymes, we can recite many fables,we remember.
Isn't that real.
by interpretation
We can recite nursery rhymes, we can recite many fables,we remember.
Isn't that real.
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LuvHurts51: Yeah, I regard the Talmud, Mishna and Gemara to be the opinions of men, and see them as interesting reading, not a guide as to how to live my life. Jesus tried to explain that the Jewish rabbis and sages had screwed up the interpretation of the word and made it impossible to live by, but apparently this was misinterpreted by those who would later found the Christian church. Some days you just can't win.
Could some passages in the Old Testament be man made according to Jesus?
When I was a christian also the paulinian theology made me confused.
I show respect to people who has their heart filled with love, especially christians, but also people with another faith, or even atheists/non-believers.
And to those who have no love in their heart, I meet with respect because they are still a creation, just a little mislead by strange thoughts and/or feelings.
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sophiasummer: It shall never be a mystery of a persons content of faith to be attacked
by interpretation
We can recite nursery rhymes, we can recite many fables,we remember.
Isn't that real.
by interpretation
We can recite nursery rhymes, we can recite many fables,we remember.
Isn't that real.
But how to explain the diversity of faith in christianity? Every direction claims to be right about God.
When we recites nursery rhymes or fables we are doing it for pure fun, and we all know that it's a game we are playing and not serious as in reciting the Bible.
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And I have also found
no desire for forums
yet a desire for some thing different
no burden,yet words,
no desire for forums
yet a desire for some thing different
no burden,yet words,
In response to: I have found that many people have a desire to question/criticize Christianity and/or the Judeo-Christian God. I am creating this thread as a totally open forum where ideas, opinions, criticisms, and other comments can be expressed. Since this is a topic which can be passionate and explosive, I will remind everyone to please be respectful of others no matter how different your beliefs. You CAN disagree without being disagreeable.
To sort of let you know where I personally come from, I guess the easy answer would be Karaite Messianic. I believe the bible (the whole thing, not just the New Testament), but I reject the traditions of men that have made the teachings of the bible burdensome and/or paganistic. I do not claim to be a nominal Christian or a Jew, and in fact, have major differences of opinion with both groups.
Shalom!
To sort of let you know where I personally come from, I guess the easy answer would be Karaite Messianic. I believe the bible (the whole thing, not just the New Testament), but I reject the traditions of men that have made the teachings of the bible burdensome and/or paganistic. I do not claim to be a nominal Christian or a Jew, and in fact, have major differences of opinion with both groups.
Shalom!
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sophiasummer: I rest my case,
In your words
"You CAN disagree without being disagreeable."
"I do not claim to be a nominal Christian or a Jew, and in fact, have major differences of opinion with both groups.
Shalom! peace.
MMM a confusing state.
In your words
"You CAN disagree without being disagreeable."
"I do not claim to be a nominal Christian or a Jew, and in fact, have major differences of opinion with both groups.
Shalom! peace.
MMM a confusing state.
To disagree is to be disagreeable, One can not be agreeable and at the same time disagree..
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sophiasummer: And I have also found
no desire for forums
yet a desire for some thing different
no burden,yet words,
no desire for forums
yet a desire for some thing different
no burden,yet words,
My experience of judging christians has been more than very bad. I also got burdened by all the words.
But if it sets you free, that's really good.
I honour you and your decision....
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How?
It is just to walk, all directions, lead a path, serious, whether fables, games, we must have fun, we look into the writings.
Seek and they Shall Find. xx
Every direction is your God.
It is just to walk, all directions, lead a path, serious, whether fables, games, we must have fun, we look into the writings.
Seek and they Shall Find. xx
Every direction is your God.
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Zebaztian: Could some passages in the Old Testament be man made according to Jesus?
When I was a christian also the paulinian theology made me confused.
I show respect to people who has their heart filled with love, especially christians, but also people with another faith, or even atheists/non-believers.
And to those who have no love in their heart, I meet with respect because they are still a creation, just a little mislead by strange thoughts and/or feelings.
When I was a christian also the paulinian theology made me confused.
I show respect to people who has their heart filled with love, especially christians, but also people with another faith, or even atheists/non-believers.
And to those who have no love in their heart, I meet with respect because they are still a creation, just a little mislead by strange thoughts and/or feelings.
Yeah, sometimes I don't know what to make of Paul. He appears to be a woman hater at times, and some times I wonder what the heck he's talking about. However, I feel that God included the epistles for a reason, so I strive to learn from them.
I feel that people of all faiths (or lack thereof) will be going to heaven. I personally think that Catholicism is one of the worst purveyors of paganism in the world. However, I strongly believe that Mother Theresa will make it to heaven way before I will. I think God judges people by what's in their heart, and how they treat other people.
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sophiasummer: How?
It is just to walk, all directions, lead a path, serious, whether fables, games, we must have fun, we look into the writings.
Seek and they Shall Find. xx
Every direction is your God.
It is just to walk, all directions, lead a path, serious, whether fables, games, we must have fun, we look into the writings.
Seek and they Shall Find. xx
Every direction is your God.
I think we are on the same path/s.
God has to be a playful God. Humorous and creative in pouring love over humans, animals, vegetation and the whole universe.
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Very cool! Ireland playing ABs this week.
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Iseek: To disagree is to be disagreeable, One can not be agreeable and at the same time disagree..
I beg to differ.
dis·a·gree/?dis?'gre/
verb: 1. Have or express a different opinion.
2. Disapprove of.
synonyms: dissent - differ - discord
dis·a·gree·a·ble/?dis?'gre?b?l/
adjective:
1. Unpleasant or unenjoyable.
2. Unfriendly and bad-tempered.
synonyms: unpleasant - nasty - objectionable - unpalatable
It is entirely possible to have different opinions without being unpleasant or nasty about it.
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LuvHurts51: Yeah, sometimes I don't know what to make of Paul. He appears to be a woman hater at times, and some times I wonder what the heck he's talking about. However, I feel that God included the epistles for a reason, so I strive to learn from them.
I feel that people of all faiths (or lack thereof) will be going to heaven. I personally think that Catholicism is one of the worst purveyors of paganism in the world. However, I strongly believe that Mother Theresa will make it to heaven way before I will. I think God judges people by what's in their heart, and how they treat other people.
I feel that people of all faiths (or lack thereof) will be going to heaven. I personally think that Catholicism is one of the worst purveyors of paganism in the world. However, I strongly believe that Mother Theresa will make it to heaven way before I will. I think God judges people by what's in their heart, and how they treat other people.
You have a good
Good night from Norway!
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LuvHurts51: I beg to differ.
dis·a·gree/?dis?'gre/
verb: 1. Have or express a different opinion.
2. Disapprove of.
synonyms: dissent - differ - discord
dis·a·gree·a·ble/?dis?'gre?b?l/
adjective:
1. Unpleasant or unenjoyable.
2. Unfriendly and bad-tempered.
synonyms: unpleasant - nasty - objectionable - unpalatable
It is entirely possible to have different opinions without being unpleasant or nasty about it.
dis·a·gree/?dis?'gre/
verb: 1. Have or express a different opinion.
2. Disapprove of.
synonyms: dissent - differ - discord
dis·a·gree·a·ble/?dis?'gre?b?l/
adjective:
1. Unpleasant or unenjoyable.
2. Unfriendly and bad-tempered.
synonyms: unpleasant - nasty - objectionable - unpalatable
It is entirely possible to have different opinions without being unpleasant or nasty about it.
Depends on context, being disagreeable may lead to a Donnybrook and therefore the two adjectives above would apply.
However, Between business people, one can be disagreeable without any malice what so ever..
Aren't we now disagreeing? aren't I some what disagreeable? yet I have no malice, anger, nor am I being unpleasant or nasty... I hope
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To sort of let you know where I personally come from, I guess the easy answer would be Karaite Messianic. I believe the bible (the whole thing, not just the New Testament), but I reject the traditions of men that have made the teachings of the bible burdensome and/or paganistic. I do not claim to be a nominal Christian or a Jew, and in fact, have major differences of opinion with both groups.
Shalom!